10 Indications The United States Is A Dictatorship

It will never be announced on the evening news, and it is not likely to continue under an authoritarian leader in the mold of a Stalin, Hitler, or Mao. Likewise, it is not to say that Barack Obama is the first dictator of The United States, but rather is part of a continued expansion of executive power that is now so great that by all measures America can no longer be called a Land of the Free ruled by We the People. We stand no chance of reversing this forced march by false democracy until we understand where we are headed, who is leading us there, and for what purpose.

1. Rule by force, not by law

I know I am preaching to the choir here, but a friend of mine posted this article and I know many here would find it fitting. I am angry and scared that we are one strong leader away from being a Nazi-esqe police state. This is a great article that fully sequences why we are and soon will be living in a dictatorship. I urge everyone to post this in other online forums. Enjoy (while we can).

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Either way you are not alone.... It seems to be happening all around the west.
Be happy that you dont live in Norway.. Alot of the stuff that people claim is silly conspiracies over there has been a known fact here for ages. ;(

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Good find Skerrako. It leads to an article on "Good Citizen" network monitoring of networks in the name of national security.

Excellent article, the short version:

1. Rule by force, not by law
2. Crushing peaceful protest
3. Checkpoints
4. Citizen spy network
5. Executive Orders
6. Control of regulatory agencies
7. President declares war unilaterally
8. Torture
9. Forced labor camps (gulags)
10. Control over all communications (propaganda)

Like him or not, Alex Jones has been preaching and informing about this for years.

You are right to feel scared. The "nazi-esque" state you're referring to has (imo) been in the works for longer than I've been alive and then some. Democracy is dead and the facade continues.

A good iron fist deserves its moxy in this way. You didn't really think that Rome would last forever did you? History repeats like a broken record of mans ailments. Progress is that lack of foresight. We are too busy going forward to look back and notice where attempts at progress have hit a wall.

As the New Rome we are doomed to repeat it, due to mans quest to right percieved wrongs. The next stage should be simple (and you all really should take heed) and you don't need to be psychic to see it. The iron fist of democracy will come smashing down as those in control adjust our way of life for the sole purpose of safety and security. After all, OBL is a bigger boogeyman dead than he ever was alive....and they will use this many times in thier defence of that tyrannical action. If you pay close attention to international news media you can see this coming to fruition rather quickly. Read between the f**kn lines

And if history is correct (sometimes it's not cause its written by the winner) then there is nothing anyone has to do physically to contribute to the accellerated detriment of this country. History will take care of itself, and America will crumble by the goverments own heavy hand. No citizen has to dissent, no citizen has to yell in the street, we will go out with a whimper as did Rome.

This is not the end however as there is still one more step for us to undergo before total collapse. And that action is what you would call a Police State or Oligarch type ruler, but only after a catastrophy is manifested for the benefit of that agenda so pushed. So that the people blinded by shock will agree to anything. Even the total denial of our most basic freedoms for the sake of selling our souls.

It is what it is, you get what you put in, and people get what they deserve. Nothing is a coincidence, nothing left to chance.

Feel free to quote me.....I do 4 shows a week, 2 drink minimum.

Well, technically, without a dictator, it can't be a dictatorship.

Now to address, point-by-point

1. Rule by force, not by law
Hey Americans, know what? If you don't like this, you have only yourself to blame. Three generations of voters pushing for "tough on crime" politicians, comissioners, chiefs, and justices. Starry-eyed admiration of the for-profit prison system. An increasing demand for the police to be treated as unquestionable heroes, while the "criminals" are always depicted as subhuman scum who deserve were than they get, no matter what it is. This has not been "sliupped in" this is not some secret thing - this is what Americans WANT from their "justice system." They want brutality and vengeance against anyone and everyone they consider "criminal" whether that person is or not. They see accusation as proof of guilt, and happily watch peoples' live ruined by such accusations. America's justice system is basically a lynch mob nowadays, but the trick is, you can't have a lynch mob without first having a mob that's looking for rope - the US poppulace is that mob.

2. Crushing peaceful protest
Uh yeah? Know why? Again, becauyse this is what the American public wants. They WANT war, they WANT poor wages, they WANT exploitation - or maybe htey don't, but htey sure don't want to see "those lazy hippies" talking about such things! As a culture we have two massive faults - first is the idea that useless pacifist protest works (pacifist is different from peaceful, note) and the notion that those who try are worthless and should not be listened to. it's two people at either side of the boat, both utterly determined to keep the boat from rocking at all. Of course our police - who remember, the American populace regards as flawless and always right, judges, juries, and executioners - are going to do what the American p[eople want, and crack some unwashed hippy skulls.

3. Checkpoints
Well, yeah. You want an eternal "war on crime" well, you're going to have to suffer militarized checkpoints in the free-fire zones you wanted, America. You're terrified that some brown dude named Miguel is going to come cut your neighbor's lawn for less money than you would have asked if you weren't a lazy useless slob and thought to offer? Well, you're going to have to have the Gestapo checking parers somewhere, right? You want to cover in fear of the idea of someone someday blowing up an airplane somewhere, well, you're going to have a list of thirteen thousand guys named Mohammed who can't fly because their name is Mohammed.

4. Citizen spy network
Gotta watch out for them terrorists, America! And if anyone speaks to a child, they're BOUND to be a pedophile, better call them in. Black people driving through town, well, no doubt they're there to rob someone, better call the cops. And hey, we all know that massive corporations only have our best interests at heart - shucks, we're all one big family. besides, if you've got nothing to hide, why would you worry? You ARE a white christian protestant heterosexual, aren't you?

5. Executive Orders
We finally find something on the list that Americans as a society can't blame themselves for - except, I suppose, in regards to their own complacency. However, most of these orders DO bolster what Americans already want - like the indefinite detention of anyone deemed a "terrorist."

6. Control of regulatory agencies
To be fair, total deregulation isn't any better, because the only freedom it grants is for the people who already own everything. I like how it has a picture of Ma and Pa Farmer in shackles there, when Ma and pa Farmer were already driven into a life of meth in the trailer park thanks to the same massive agribusinesses slavering over the idea of total deregulation. Regulations on businesses protect the rights and freedoms of the employees, the customers, and the people who live around the business. The problem with regulations today isn't that they exist, but rather that, thanks to these "free market" monopolist dumbasses and their invisible hand voodoo religion, the regulatory agencies are being filled with Friedmanite ideologues, who slash regulations, change regulations that remain to fit what the corporations want, and then fail to enforce even those. Of course, American consumer society is pretty much based on the idea of Chinese slavery and pouring arsenic into our aquifers, because otherwise, things would cost a few dimes more. So again, looks like we did it to ourselves.

7. President declares war unilaterally
Americans love a good war. We'll bend over sideways to let our presidents prove that their testicles produce testosterone, so they can show how "tough" they are by blowing up commies and Ay-rabs. And if congress doesn't like it, tough, they're all effeminate wusses, with their "constitutiuon" and "declarative power." We Americans know that some people just need killin', and if the president is the only man with the sticks and stones enough to be our John Rambo, the American people will crawl on their hands and knees to worship him for it. Of course, the only hitch in this plan is that we don't want OUR kids to be the ones getting killed, we want it to be our neighbor's kids - we just want to watch it on the TV so we can pretend to be war heroes, too. The president declares war unilaterally because the US people love war, and because any member of the Legislation that says a peep against our wars gets thrown out for "not supporting the troops."

8. Torture
Is okay when we do it to ay-rabs. They're all bad guys anyway, who cares? Besides, it's not REALLY torture, because the US guidelines on what is torture were amended to say it's not! besides, we all know torture is a highly effective means of interrogation. Americans, in bulk, support torture of "bad guys." We have heroes such as jack Bauer and so many others who show us how necessary it is. We advocate that our own citizens be tortured in prisons, because they're "bad people." Torture is just a natural development in the American people's desire for bloodshed and causing pain in those we regard as "inferior" or "deserving."

9. Forced labor camps
Again, most Americans LOVE the "tough on crime" measures taken. They love the idea of full prisons, because to Americans, a full prison isn't a sign that something is terribly wrong, it's a sign that hte system is working, because everyone but me is a monster. Attendant with their love of prisons (and of course, prison torture and prison rape), is a hatred of actually paying for them. Americans hate the idea that all these people they want to see locked up forever cost tax money. So they adore the idea of chain gangs, prison slavery, and other such methods. And if these methods are acceptable for American prisoners, well, it's more than good enough for those damned dirty Ay-rabs who we decided to not just murder on the spot, right?

10. Control over all communications
And there we go. The one thing on this list that most Americans actually oppose - with an asterisk. Ask an American, and they'll tell you, "I'm all for the free exchange of information, except..." That exception may be "State secrets." it may be pornography. it may be the proseletization of a different religion. it could be an economic philosophy or political viewpoint. Most Americans accept free speech in paper, but only with caveats that fit their own biases. Still, most would rather the idea be free of government involvement, if the alternative is giving the government full involvement (which it is.)

So here's the situation. Most of these things are simply a development in the nature of American culture itself, simply reflected through politics. Most of these developments come about because we, as a people, regard ourselves to have no flaws, and to have authority over the existence of others - be they other individuals, other creeds, other nations, other ethnic groups, whoever, Americans tend to think we have a say in their lives. The one thing Americans aren't quite willing to sell out yet also happens to be the best tool for changing that situation. So what are you guys going to do?

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
Excellent article, the short version:

1. Rule by force, not by law
2. Crushing peaceful protest
3. Checkpoints
4. Citizen spy network
5. Executive Orders
6. Control of regulatory agencies
7. President declares war unilaterally
8. Torture
9. Forced labor camps (gulags)
10. Control over all communications (propaganda)

I can understand all of the others, but I don't understand #8: Torture. Please excuse my ignorance.

very interesting

Ok, so we are a dictatorship. All democracies/republics die and turn into dictatorships. So now what do you propose we do about it? Do we just sit back and whine about the loss of liberties then turn on "Biggest Loser"? or "American Idol"?

Originally posted by Quyll

I can understand all of the others, but I don't understand #8: Torture. Please excuse my ignorance.

Torture is now embeded in our society. Watch CSI Miami, when Horatio Cain stands on a suspects bullet wounded shoulder to press for information, that is torture. Look at any of your police dramas and you will see similar incidents. How do you feel when it's happening? Are you outraged? or are you glad that the cop saved the little girl by any means necessary? Think about it.

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A tad offtopic.. But Norway is going even more totalitarian.
Today the government announced a new internet censorship law as well as anti piracy law.. They will use the national firewall that they promised to only use for child porn to block sites like piratebay and similar.
They will also implement a kill switch so they can kill the internet for those who are caught downloading music, movies, tv series and similar with no warnings provided.

This is a side effect of a law that was passed a month or two ago that forces isps to log all internet activity with ip address that is stored for minimum 6 months. They claimed this would ONLY be used to help police solve serious crimes like murder, child porno and similar and yet already before they have put in place surveillance they already broke that promise.

And this has been ranked as best country to live in? :O

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by Quyll

I can understand all of the others, but I don't understand #8: Torture. Please excuse my ignorance.

Torture is now embeded in our society. Watch CSI Miami, when Horatio Cain stands on a suspects bullet wounded shoulder to press for information, that is torture. Look at any of your police dramas and you will see similar incidents. How do you feel when it's happening? Are you outraged? or are you glad that the cop saved the little girl by any means necessary? Think about it.

How about the real world now?? Sorry but I don't live based on CSI or some stupid tv show I know is fake anyways!! Someone with helpful insight please chime in. I don't understand how torture is linked to dictatorship either...

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein

How about the real world now?? Sorry but I don't live based on CSI or some stupid tv show I know is fake anyways!! Someone with helpful insight please chime in. I don't understand how torture is linked to dictatorship either...

You missed the point. This is an example of how acceptable torture is in our society now. Prior to the "war on terror"(how do you have a war against a tactic or strategy?), most Americans were against torture. It was even in our Constitution, the whole cruel and unusual punishment prohibition. The reason it is now so pervasive in our society at multiple levels now is so that it will no longer be considered "unusual". Torture, in and of itself, is an evil act. It stains the soul(or psyche for you atheists out there). Good societies ban torture not out of concern for the criminal, but out of concern for the damage that performing such acts does to the very fabric of society itself. When evil is accepted and even praised, what does that say about the society? So good societies condemn torture, evil societies embrace it. Totalitarianism, of any stripe, is generally evil. By their fruit shall ye know them.

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And sadly, this is the truth.

Well put,
it's like watching mold grow.

Dunno if we have a dictorship, be we certainly are living in fascism.

Originally posted by Quyll

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
Excellent article, the short version:

1. Rule by force, not by law
2. Crushing peaceful protest
3. Checkpoints
4. Citizen spy network
5. Executive Orders
6. Control of regulatory agencies
7. President declares war unilaterally
8. Torture
9. Forced labor camps (gulags)
10. Control over all communications (propaganda)

I can understand all of the others, but I don't understand #8: Torture. Please excuse my ignorance.

edit on 18-5-2011 by Quyll because: (no reason given)

Sanctioned torture of others tend to lead into sanctioned torture of it's own citizens. By the powers of the patriot act they can label you an enemy combatant, hold you without trial, and outsource you to a detention center outside of the country for enhanced interrogation.

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Read my location and I chose this three years ago when I finally joined.

Says it all.

Not just any dictatorship, but one owned and run by the large corporations.

news.yahoo.com...

Top congressional leaders agreed Thursday to a four-year extension of the anti-terrorist Patriot Act, the controversial law passed after the Sept. 11 attacks that governs the search for terrorists on American soil.

The deal between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker John Boehner calls for a vote before May 27, when parts of the current act expire, according to officials in both parties who spoke on condition of anonymity. The idea is to pass the extension with as little debate as possible to avoid a protracted and familiar argument over the expanded power the law gives to the government.

They just approved an extension. I don't understand, aren't Tea Partiers, Libertarian, and Leftists for the most part against the PA?

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They just approved an extension. I don't understand, aren't Tea Partiers, Libertarian, and Leftists for the most part against the PA?

They are, but the corporations and Military industrial Complex are for it, and the have congress in their pockets.

Today is a sad day indeed