Sledghammer used in Mexico killings

Sledghammer used in Mexico killings

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SAN FERNANDO, Mexico -- At the largest mass grave site ever found in Mexico, where 177 bodies have been pulled from deep pits, authorities have recovered few bullet casings and little evidence that the dead were killed with a gun.

Instead, most died of blunt force trauma to the head, and a sledgehammer found at the crime scene is believed to have been used in the executions, according to Mexican investigators and state officials.

As many as 122 of the victims were passengers dragged off bus

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Forensic photographs shown to The Washington Post depict mummified bodies caked in dirt and badly decomposed, with signs of extreme cranial trauma. In the largest two graves, holding 43 and 45 bodies, the corpses were piled atop one another in a 10-foot-deep pit dug by a backhoe, that criminals filled over the last four months.

Warning ... 'Graphic human body dismemberment' Photos

The red nail polish on a young victim’s toe stands out in one photograph, along with her XS-size undergarments.


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Why exactly is this posted in the breaking news section, or as news at all? while a tragedy, doesnt really seem like "big news"

reply to post by DaddyBare
You certainly were not kidding when you said 'graphic'.

Might want to add 'Graphic human body dismemberment'. They certainly have some animals living south of our border. I mean, what possible need did they have to dismember the corpses? They buried them with a backhoe, why chop them up? Unless they needed to fill a very sick psychological need.

ETA: I gave you a star and a flag. People need to see what is starting to come across our border with Mexico.
I am not anti-immigration, but we do not need animals like that taking over our country. We need to seal our border and get real picky about who comes across.

Originally posted by VonDoomen
Why exactly is this posted in the breaking news section, or as news at all? while a tragedy, doesnt really seem like "big news"

Not so slowly and very surely this kind of brutally is making it's way into the US...
Wasnt that long ago AZ had it's first reported beheading.... Already Phoenix is suffering from kidnapping and home invasions... over in TX there have been numerous reports of Cartels trying to recruit school age teens... dont know about you but I find this one story and the possible threat to the states to be very news worthy

reply to post by butcherguy


I added your suggestion...
might be a tad to early in the morning for folks to be looking at those kinds of photos...
hell even I just glanced at them then quickly closed the page

The casinos in Nevada are already taking bets on how long before Mexico sues all US mfg's that sell sledghammer.

Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by butcherguy

 

I added your suggestion...
might be a tad to early in the morning for folks to be looking at those kinds of photos...
hell even I just glanced at them then quickly closed the page

It may be sickening, but people do need to look at it.
It is one thing to have a neighboring country to our south that has a lower standard of living, but we are seeing more and more news reports of the decapitations, killing of innocent civilians and wholesale slaughter of police and govt officials.... This indicates that the people that run the narco-trafficing are seriously sick individuals.

Thanks for making sure the membership here can have a look and spread the word.

reply to post by Echo007


Want to bet right here and now on how long it takes for Mexico to be declared a "Failed State" and the US send in hundreds if not thousands of American agents to help regain control????

Oh wait... that's already happened...
US has about 500 agents operating in Mexico... maybe more?

How about how long before we see these drugs problems occurring here in the states???
22 Arrested up in Chicago this weekend

They use shock and awe to intimidate and terrorize the people of Mexico. Nothing is off the table in how they carry out their atrocities on the helpless civilians caught in the cross-hairs. These graphic images should be all over the MSM, because the American public need to see first-hand what is going on in Mexico. This is what can be expected here if the US does anything to disrupt or jeopardize the money stream. Elements of the cartels are already here, and not just along the border. Any major city connected to major highways will have these thugs around protecting the supply lines and distribution points.

Brutal Mexican drug gang crosses into U.S.

The signature crimes of the most violent drug cartel in Mexico are its beheading and dismemberment of rival gang members, military personnel, law enforcement officers and public officials, and the random kidnappings and killings of civilians who get caught in its butchery and bloodletting.

But this disparate band of criminals known as Los Zetas is no longer just a concern in Mexico. It has expanded its deadly operations across the southwestern border, establishing footholds and alliances in states from New York to California. Just last year, federal agents tied a coc aine operation in Baltimore to the Zetas.

This group is comprised of some of the worst of the worst. Former Mexican Special Forces with some high tech weaponry and equipment. If they are here and dug in, chances are the other cartels are here as well. It is only a matter of time, before the atrocities that are so common place in Mexico begin to present themselves here. If the US tightens its grasp on the border, or escalates involvement with their Mexican counterparts; it will put the cartels in a position of damned if you do and damned if you don't. However, regardless of the risk; a more robust approach by the US needs to be taken.

A multi-billion dollar empire is at stake. There could be a guerrilla war on the streets of the US? That will be the cartel's response. We already know they don't care about the military or law enforcement, because it does not stop them in Mexico. They don't care about kidnapping or murdering high-level government officials or politicians. That is going on in Mexico as well. If we continue to ignore or avoid this national security nightmare, we do so at our own peril. It will get messy around here.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by DaddyBare

 

You certainly were not kidding when you said 'graphic'.

Might want to add 'Graphic human body dismemberment'. They certainly have some animals living south of our border. I mean, what possible need did they have to dismember the corpses? They buried them with a backhoe, why chop them up? Unless they needed to fill a very sick psychological need.

ETA: I gave you a star and a flag. People need to see what is starting to come across our border with Mexico.
I am not anti-immigration, but we do not need animals like that taking over our country. We need to seal our border and get real picky about who comes across.

edit on 25-4-2011 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

This atrocity is being attributed to The Zetas. Who are they?

This group of highly trained gunmen was first hired as a private mercenary army for Mexico's Gulf Cartel. After the arrest of the Gulf Cartel's leader, Osiel Cárdenas Guillen, as well as other events, the two entities became a combined trafficking force, with the Zetas taking a more active leadership role in drug trafficking.[2][3][4][5] Since February 2010 Los Zetas have gone independent and became enemies of its former employer/partner, the Gulf Cartel.

Where did they learn these things?

In the late 1990s, the Gulf Cartel leader, Osiel Cárdenas Guillen, wanted to track down and kill rival cartel members as a form of protection. He began to recruit former Mexican Army’s elite Grupo Aeromóvil de Fuerzas Especiales (GAFE) soldiers. It is argued that they received some of their specialized military training in counter-insurgency and locating and apprehending drug cartel members at the military School of the Americas in the United States,[10][11] in Fort Bragg, North Carolina[12] and by other foreign specialists of the United States, France and Israel. They were trained in rapid deployment, aerial assaults, marksmanship, ambushes, small-group tactics, intelligence collection, counter-surveillance techniques, prisoner rescues and sophisticated communications. Military forces from around the world train at Fort Bragg, so there is nothing unique about Mexican operatives learning counter-insurgency tactics at the facility.

en.wikipedia.org...(Mexico)

Originally posted by DaddyBare

Want to bet right here and now on how long it takes for Mexico to be declared a "Failed State" and the US send in hundreds if not thousands of American agents to help regain control????

Oh wait... that's already happened...
US has about 500 agents operating in Mexico... maybe more?

How about how long before we see these drugs problems occurring here in the states???
22 Arrested up in Chicago this weekend

Right on schedule?

reply to post by Erongaricuaro
So....

What we have here is a Mexican Osama bin Laden? With the exception that money through narco-trafficing drives him instead religious zeal?

reply to post by Erongaricuaro


Let us not forget to add the Obama Admin has a hand in all this...
Remember project `Fast and Furioso'... AKA the Gunwalker ATF scandal...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Even the DoJ is being drug into that mess....
I'm wondering if were going to see congressional hearing ????

What else would you expect from ex-Special-Forces operators who have gone nuts for money?
The scariest thing of all is that the ex-SF scumbags who murder all these innocent people so brutally are very very very highly trained and are also usually so scarred and brainwashed that they enjoy being sadists.

I'm pretty sure that the black/covert war going on inside the borders of Mexico and in some parts of the USA will escalate to a completely new level after they've finished securing a foothold in the USA.
That means that as soon as they have made deals with the Russian, Chinese and Israeli mafia inside the USA, sh!t's gonna hit the fan.
My advice? Get a firearm and learn how to use it... WELL(Legally of course).

Edit: S&F for OP.


IT--

reply to post by edog11


Buy two guns
you know what they say...
the fastest reload is a second gun

Originally posted by edog11
What else would you expect from ex-Special-Forces operators who have gone nuts for money?

It is big money. Them thar drugs are worth more than their weight in silver and gold. Such temptations, such incentives to be playing for "the other side."

The value of these drugs are being propped-up by prohibition policies, pure and simple. They are artificially high, but for whose benefit? It's not just the "bad guys" earning a profit here. The rabbit hole goes much deeper than that otherwise it would have been stopped long ago.

Any idea what these drugs would actually be worth in a free market? Packaging and transportations cost of getting them to market would be the primary costs most likely. But that is how we regulate markets in capitalist societies. The farmers receive very little of the money exchanged from these illicit commodities. The money now still goes to those transporting and marketing them, along with some tidy payoffs to help send them along their way, no doubt.

reply to post by DaddyBare


I live in Phoenix and yes, the violence is here. Right now, it is not directed at Americans, but toward the Mexicans that try to mess with the cartels. The guy that was beheaded was right down the street from me... apparently, he stole a lot of product from the cartel and they sent two people up here to "befriend" him...and then got him when he had gained their trust... ruthless.

Now, the home invasions and drop houses are another topic. They are everywhere! God forbid someone breaks into my place...I will do whatever it takes to protect my wife and child.

Stop the income, stop the violence. Decriminalize. End the failed War on Drugs.

reply to post by Erongaricuaro

The value of these drugs are being propped-up by prohibition policies, pure and simple.

Absolutely correct.

They are artificially high, but for whose benefit? It's not just the "bad guys" earning a profit here.

JMO, but why would the members of the biggest country club in the land(US Congress) keep those laws on the books if they aren't still making money because of them?

Originally posted by butcherguy
JMO, but why would the members of the biggest country club in the land(US Congress) keep those laws on the books if they aren't still making money because of them?

I could take a wild guess. www.abovetopsecret.com...
"How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug gangs"