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The region from which they come is not the 'Astral Plane' but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of osoteric matters will understand these terms.
Fundamentals of the Esoteric Philosophy by G. de Purucker
Copyright © 1979 by Theosophical University Press. All rights reserved.
Interpenetrating Spheres of Being. Lokas and Talas: Bipolar Kosmical Principles and Elements. The "Heresy of Separateness"
All things are implicated with one another, and the bond is holy; and there is hardly anything unconnected with any other thing. For things have been co-ordinated, and they combine to form the same universe (order). For there is one universe made up of all things, and one god who pervades all things, and one substance, and one law, (one) common reason in all intelligent animals, and one truth; if indeed there is also one perfection for all animals which are of the same stock and participate in the same reason. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, 7, 9 (George Long, trans.)
Nature has linked all parts of her Empire together by subtle threads of magnetic sympathy, and, there is a mutual correlation even between a star and a man; . . . -- The Mahatma Letters, p. 267
If through the Hall of Wisdom, thou would'st reach the Vale of Bliss, Disciple, close fast thy senses against the great dire heresy of separateness that weans thee from the rest. -- The Voice of the Silence, pp. 8-9
IN THE JEWISH Talmud there is a quaint old story, full of the profound wisdom of the ancient teachers, about four candidates for wisdom. It tells how they entered into the Garden of Delights, a name which the Jews used, especially the Qabbalists, to designate the realm of occultism, of the occult sciences; and the names of these four candidates for wisdom were as follows: Ben Asai, Ben Zoma, Ahher, and Rabbi Aqiba. As the story goes, "Ben Asai looked -- and lost his sight; Ben Zoma looked -- and lost his reason. Ahher went into the Garden of Delights and committed depredations therein; but Rabbi Aqiba entered in peace and left in peace. And the Holy One, whose servants we are -- blessed be his name -- said: 'This old man is worthy of serving us with glory.'"
Here are the four general types of students of the ancient wisdom. Ben Asai, who lost his sight, was one who was attracted by the doctrines and teachings and, like another case mentioned in the Greek legends, looked upon the face of naked truth and was "blinded." He became, that is, a worse exotericist than he was before. He was unprepared, unready. He had forced his way into the place where he did not belong. And he incurred one of the penalties awaiting those who enter into the holy places with an unpure heart and an unprepared mind.
And Ben Zoma looked and lost his reason; he was one whose nature was so essentially selfish that he looked only for that which he himself might gain therefrom. And his nature being unsteady, weak, self-centered and selfish, he lost his "reason," that is to say, he became the slave instead of the master. You know the old medieval saying that the magician who evokes the so-called "spirits of the vasty deep," and is not in complete control of them, is made away with by them, which is a saying teaching the same doctrine that we teach of the utter necessity of spiritual preparation, moral preparedness. "For the pure in heart see God," and have naught to fear, which is the Christian method of expressing the same idea.
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The region from which they come is not the 'Astral Plane' but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of osoteric matters will understand these terms.
Am I the only one that realized this besides sepermeru? It is just a letter some tin-hat ATS member sent them. (well, ok, but he would have been a member had ATS been around back in the day)
Originally posted by sepermeru
reply to post by trollz
You understand this document is a letter someone sent the FBI based on supernatural visions he had, and not an official document written by the FBI, right? Just making sure.
Originally posted by Havick007
Well..... This month has been exciting for released goverment documents hasnt it!!
The title is self explainatory... read it for yourself!
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/32b0ef936307.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7c59652c2def.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/21ac38cf4cb3.jpg[/atsimg]
Source - Page 57 & 58 ( FBI.gov Records Vault )
I dont know what else to say, this is coming directly from the FBI
so am i right in saying that they are talking about an early soviet spy disc here?
Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by Elvis Hendrix
This one stood out to me - i actually just posted a thread on it, but perhaps i should have added it here...
Originally posted by Havick007
Well..... This month has been exciting for released goverment documents hasnt it!!
The title is self explainatory... read it for yourself!
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/32b0ef936307.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7c59652c2def.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/21ac38cf4cb3.jpg[/atsimg]
Source - Page 57 & 58 ( FBI.gov Records Vault )
I dont know what else to say, this is coming directly from the FBI