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Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by Mdv2
reply to post by centurion1211
Not to speak of their little adventure in Georgia - I don't see how that was any different from the Western intervention in Libya.
Excellent point. I'd already forgotten about that.
Clear and recent illustration of russian hypocrisy.
Originally posted by budski
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by Mdv2
reply to post by centurion1211
Not to speak of their little adventure in Georgia - I don't see how that was any different from the Western intervention in Libya.
Excellent point. I'd already forgotten about that.
Clear and recent illustration of russian hypocrisy.
you make it sound as though what happened in Georgia was the same as what is happening in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq but Russia has not launched a war thousands of miles from their homeland.
It's a stupid strawman argument designed to deflect and discredit rather than address the issue at hand - which is that western countries ARE on a crusade - a crusade to control the oil so that they can keep themselves in the style they have become accustomed to.
It's all about GREED, plain and simple.
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
I'm saying that there is a huge difference between protecting your borders, and launching a war of aggression on the flimsiest of pretxts, as the US has done time and time again, just so the military industrial complex can feed off the public teat.
If a burglar comes onto your property, you have certain rights - if you walk across town and shoot someone in the face you have none.
The US is in the business of walking across town and shooting people in the face - Putin has it absolutely spot on.
I respectfully disagree. It IS a religious conspiracy; nephellim versus elohim.
Mainstream religion does NOT make it clear that both the nephellim and elohim are alien entities, invoked by lucifer and adonai respectively, either to control the universe or as some higher experiment done by god.
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Yes, as usual, you are missing something huge.
Even more laughable is your WW2 allusion, which was under a completely different political system - notice how under the current system the warsaw pact no longer applies? Or did you miss that one on fox news
Like I said, Putin is spot on - certain western countries behave as if they have the right to do anything they want - they might dress it up under different guises, but it's all about OIL and GREED.
Originally posted by budski
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by Mdv2
reply to post by centurion1211
Not to speak of their little adventure in Georgia - I don't see how that was any different from the Western intervention in Libya.
Excellent point. I'd already forgotten about that.
Clear and recent illustration of russian hypocrisy.
you make it sound as though what happened in Georgia was the same as what is happening in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq but Russia has not launched a war thousands of miles from their homeland.
It's a stupid strawman argument designed to deflect and discredit rather than address the issue at hand - which is that western countries ARE on a crusade - a crusade to control the oil so that they can keep themselves in the style they have become accustomed to.
It's all about GREED, plain and simple.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Yes, as usual, you are missing something huge.
No it's you. I'm exposing a HUGE example of hypocrisy by putin.
Even more laughable is your WW2 allusion, which was under a completely different political system - notice how under the current system the warsaw pact no longer applies? Or did you miss that one on fox news
Aren't you one of the people posting here that misses the old "glory days" of the soviet union? Hint: no one else misses them.
Like I said, Putin is spot on - certain western countries behave as if they have the right to do anything they want - they might dress it up under different guises, but it's all about OIL and GREED.
I know it says otherwise in the Communist Manifesto, but repeating false information does not make it true, no matter how many times you do it.
"In accordance with the constitution and the federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect the lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Mr Medvedev said in televised remarks. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots to go unpunished."
Originally posted by budski
Georgia doesn't really count, if you are honest with yourself,as they were protecting not only their own borders, but also russian citizens - although I doubt that will be the case. Your type tries to spin everything to your own agenda.
Again, Putin is spot on - we are now engaged in acts of war against 3 mideast countries, rich in oil and resources - coincidence?
I think not - but you go right ahead and climb on the faux news bandwagon...edit on 22/3/2011 by budski because: (no reason given)
Very few outsiders know about the intimate plans of Albert Pike and the architects of the New World Order. In the 19th Century Albert Pike established a framework for bringing about the One World Order. Based on a vision revealed to him, Albert Pike wrote a blueprint of events that would play themselves out in the 20th century, with even more of these events yet to come. It is this blueprint which we believe unseen leaders are following today, knowingly or not, to engineer the planned Third and Final World War.
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Russia didn't attack afghanistan, the USSR did - is that so very hard for you to understand?
Now, remind me again, how many wars of aggression RUSSIA has launched in the last 10 years.
Putin is right on the money - the fact that you think he's not, pretty much automatically means he is.
Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya - it's not about democracy, human rights or freedom, if it were, there are many other places under much harsher regimes that need attention.
It's about OIL and MONEY - the 2 headed american neo-con god abbetted by the major deity that is the military industrial complex.
Anyone who puts their contributor status in their sig, has a serious ego problem - so you go right ahead and think you've "won" something if it makes you feel better.
edit on 22/3/2011 by budski because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
No, what it's about is the west constantly taking the moral highground when acting in exactly the opposite way.
I care not a jot what the USSR did in the past, nor very much what russia does now.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
USA doesn't give a rats ass about libya. The only reason they went along with the plan was to repay the brits and french the favor for helping them attack iraq and afghanistan. The american president did not say this directly but it is taken for granted imo and that is why they are playing a supportive role rather than a leading role.
Nevermind the fact that USA has a $12+ trillion deficit. Wake up people and stop blaming america and Israel for everything. It has nothing to do with nationalities and everything to do with money, money, money AND CONTROL!
How are you going to sell weapons if peace becomes reality? Isn't that why the ATF allows mexican drug lords to be armed with ak-47s...to maintain instability?! Crazy world we live in and the insanity will continue until we leave this wretched planet to settle somewhere else.edit on 22-3-2011 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)