Why is the NWO not here yet?

I have heard a lot in the past few decades about the New World Order, the influence the Illuminati and the bilderberg group have in creating the NWO, and the power they have. I was a strong believer in this conspiracy especially when i saw Tony Blaire attend a bilderberg group meeting a few months before he was elected prime minister in 1997, followed by George W Bush prior to his presidential victory. At the time I believed the NWO would be upon us by 2010 however this has not happened, both no longer leaders, it does not seem to be getting closer, there is no evidence of David Cameron having ties to the NWO, I don't know about Obama.

I know that it won't happen over night, but it seems to have been going on for so long and nothing has happened, the originators of the NWO would have had a vision of how they saw the world and when they wanted it to be done by, most people who envision something usually would want to see it at least started in their life time.

A lot of people have suggested that 9/11 and the anti-terror wars was the start but almost ten years on and were still fighting a war that isn't going anywhere, and no signs of a NWO movement starting from this. We have not had mass conscription or marshal law, yes we have lost some civil liberties but none that really effect our day to day lives.

So the question I am asking is, If the Illuminati are controlling everything that goes on around us, are behind the governments, the banking system, the military, why are they waiting so long before creating the NWO? I honestly believe we will be here in 50 years time debating the NWO and the Illuminati and askiing the same questions.

I do not mean to offend anyone who has strong believes in this subject, I am just looking for answers.

I apologies if anyone has asked the same question before I have done numerous searches and have not found anything.

reply to post by pet dog 82


The magnetic tape on your debit visa card will soon disappear for a RFID chip (already happening in Europe) and with this crisis in Japan that could destroy the US dollar , they are preparing for that day . There are too many of us that still have it too good to bow down into servitude . Never let a good crisis go to waste . I'm sure that they are looking for a chance to save us from something into the new functional system . They learned from the French Revolution that the masses can overpower the armies by sheer numbers and we still have guns .Something that dramatically reduces populations will have to happen .

they have been working on the NWO for many many years. they are just slowly conditioning us to have FEMA camps, military presence on our streets, slowly taking away the constitution. it takes a long time to play a game of chess, all the pieces have to be in the right place before the check mate.

but why don't they takeover at the 1910s,1930s I'm sure by that tie could have a world order

but why don't they takeover at the 1910s,1930s I'm sure by that time could have a world order

Not sure about the Illuminati, but the NWO has been here. If you look at financial/banking/corporate/media/governmental establishment. The revolving doors b/n the different arms of the power structure. The policies that obviously and pretty shamelessly create a bigger and bigger seperation between the extremely rich and the rest of us. As the middle class evaporates and public education declines and becomes defunded. As the few structures that gave power to "the people", such as unions and objective media, are being dissolved. Welcome to the beginnings of Neo-Feudalism as crises are either created or taken advantage of to centralize the global economy and enact more and more controls through economics and manufactured fear and manufactured consent.

There was so much in what ya said there. Umm okay first I was thinking along your lines with that question. And then I heard G Edward griffin ask the question of when do you think they will implement the new world order. His response what makes you think were not already in it. Picture it as a wall that is constantly growing larger and taller. Picture each horrible legislation that takes away your rights and liberties as the bricks that grow higher and higher and keeps you and your freedoms inside that wall.

Okay now I gotta go back and look at what else ya wrote.

reply to post by starwarsisreal

but why don't they takeover at the 1910s,1930s I'm sure by that time could have a world order

Umm okay in the 1910 they were just starting it maybe. Because 1913 was the start of the federal reserve. and also it was the start of the league of nations. Which was the rough draft of the united nations. 1930's they were trying to get something started with hitler you can go back and look at all the globalist and new world order people who funded him for different reason and what not.

reply to post by petdog82

The New World Order is not here because Daniel's prophecy says that no one world empire would rule the world again...
...you can read the specifics in the Book of Daniel chapter 2.

reply to post by petdog82


The New World Order was pretty much firmly established by the beginning of World War I. At that point the International Shadow Government more or less controlled all but an insignificant handful of nations.

Since then it's just be a slow but methodical process of prepping the world population for the consolidations into open one world systems in slow incremental stages designed to keep people from fully seeing it happening, and rebelling against it.

Completion date for the open establishment of a one world government is set for 2033.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Thats a funny date ya got there friend. Funny story maybe 6th or 5th grade I had a native American teacher who me and toher students would hang out with on break or when you have down time play chess do whatever. One day we got into a deep conversation I can;t remember how. But he was saying on when he thought the world was gonna end was 2033 his reasoning was that we were coiming to end of a period the 2000's and then factor that with the age that Jesus died. So around that time frame.

Never one power but a mingling of iron and clay...

Daniel 2:43 "...but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."

reply to post by SimonPeter


maybe the French did over throw their leaders, and yes the USA have lots of guns in the populations to fight back, (the British would always just take what they get given, maybe write some strongly worded letters to some unimportant people.)

All it would really take is some charismatic leaders who could sale the idea, Hitler did it brilliantly to the Germans, no one has manage that level of power and influence since.

what the hell do you think countries are?? they all have armies/police..all working unaware of the purpose they serve

reply to post by American-philosopher


My understanding is that this is the date that the Powers that Be are looking to complete the transformation by.

I have been told that beginning next year, each passing year it will become more apparent that this shift/drive is occuring and each passing year it will be harder to stop and derail as more and more control systems are brought online and into play.

I have also been told though that there is a small but dedicated group of well placed individuals working to try to stop this from occuring and that at some point in the future they might be making an open call to people to assist them.

Clearly all is not well in our world, many of the existing systems are crumbling and beyond repair with major changes looming on the horizon, so I don't think it's something that is wise to discount.

However it is a incremental process, but I think most people alive in their 40's and 50's and 60's who have been paying attention can and will point many of the changes that have already occured looking back over the course of their life and adding up the sum total of them moving backward where added up they combine to become much more significant than each singular one seemed originally moving forward.

It comes like the theif in the night.

reply to post by yourmaker


Can you explain your self better please, I know what countries are. I know the military and police serve the governments of the day in their country, no where in the western world have i seen these military, police, enforcing the NWO agenda.

reply to post by petdog82


Really you don't imagine that the American military is being used as an international police force to secure resources for the Multi-National Corporations?

You haven't noticed the growth of such police activities as "Home Land Security" and the TSA, and the many police organizations from Interpol to the TSA, CIA, MI6, MOSSAD, FBI ect that operate across borders?

I see a very different situation than you appear to be seeing.

These types of organizations blindly follow orders, they don't need to be aware of where the origins of those orders ultimately come from, just that they have come down the chain of command and that they are tasked to do them or suffer a penalty if they don't.

If you are looking for someone to say "Halt in the name of the New World Order and One World Government or I will shoot" to confirm the agenda, this is simply not how these people operate.

They are using debt to the International Banking Cartel to disolve national sovereignty of nations, most of the European Union nations have already totally negated their own sovereignty in the name of the union. This is a classic example of New World Order consolidations.

They are using the military control of organizations like NATO an early New World Order Construct to secure vital resources at the source like Oil as a means to control nations and people.

They are using religious crusades to both align and divide people in a slow dance of death to eliminate divisions by having them battle each other to anihialation.

All of these things are being aided by manipulation of law enforcement agencies like the SEC, FBI and Secret Service who turn a blind eye to the manipulations of the Banking Cartel.

Further much of the theft of resources and occupations of nations is authorized in part through the World Body of the UN another early New World Order invention.

All this stuff is actually happening and will continue to do so whether you misenterpret or not.

Thanks.

why does everyone assume the new world order will be american english and maybe a few europens.


i reckon it will be made up of chinies, russians, and maybe a few from middle east like india. there are millionairs being created everyday in china, billionairs with loads of power in russia, these are the people to watch as soon as america in its super power status falls.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


You make some really valid points, and I mainly agree with what you say, maybe thats the point that they are operating so slowly I am not seeing the changes happening that I expected by now.

Do you believe Cameron & Obama are as much as part of this as any of our previous leaders, I think Blair and Bush were pushing hard to move the NWO forward, even the waist of space Gordan Brown was clearly a puppet to the NWO and is responsible for the financial situation Britain is is now, which like you said will work in favour of the NWO. but I Guess Im just not fully convinced anymore that there will be an NWO.

Well with the publication of Zeitgeist, I assume it will be in a couple of years.

Our media is going to probably change and go in the direction of a more intelligent based thinking, but still never tackling the NWO/Elitists head on since they are the ones pulling the strings. Or maybe a decline in intelligence. Idk, in any case it looks like they will bring it about in a peaceful manner at first, if not, then domination.

The first move they essentially make is to recreate the Great Depression by destroying our already corrupt economy. If Zeitgeist is NWO propaganda, then the Elitists probably reckoned that the Federal Reserve has run its course and will do away with it. According to Zeitgeist, our media will probably demonize the free market, christianity, and capitalism while exalting socialism, a resource based economy/ new form of currency, a one world religion, ect.

The future is uncertain but idk, maybe this whole NWO thing could be a hoax. I doubt it but so far we "conspiracy theorists" have been put to shame by the inactivity of any large changes. Most likely there are big plans in the works if not carried out by now. I think HAARP might have something to do with Japan's earthquake www.youtube.com... and something fishy is going on in Libyia. Keep watch guys, no one else really is.