Why Dr Hawass Resigned

Originally posted by zorgon


So here we go... for years we have said Dr Hawass needs to go because he has been covering up finds and not letting anyone else dig in Egypt. Now here he is in the aftermath of the troubles in Egypt resigning and calling others crooks. This should be interesting to see what happens in Egyptology in the next few years

www.drhawass.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Be sure that the Globalists who ordered these "revolutions" are behind or will be behind enormous theft of ancient artifacts ALL OVER THE MEDITERRANEAN. They don't just make people revolt to just steal their resources amidst the chaos and instability that will later ensue for years, they steal their history too in order to REWRITE HUMAN HISTORY to their liking. These are their agendas because they are the globalists. They have to usher us in a NWO no matter what. They want us to stay there and rut without hope. All of our future generations. Without any chance of recalling the real knowledge of our collective pasts. Without a roadmap out from the hell they are meticulously constructing and very carefully pushing under our collective noses. They recruit you and me with their false good intentions to spread the propaganda for them. Hawass is bad. Mubarak is a tyrant. Qadaffi is a criminal, Saddam was crazy and had WMD. They push their campaign from every media there to recruit their usefull idiots. Look at this site for instance. It's full of them! You helped this NWO to materialize. I helped this NWO to materialize. Any two bit semi-famous internet persona here is helping this NWO materialize. We are THEIR usefull idiots! We are not denying ignorance. We are just denying reality. Well, reality is going to come back and bite us in the ass one day, and this day is very soon.
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Originally posted by Telos

Implication my arse. The guy was a crook. His only mission was disinformation, cover up and misleading. Saying that Hawass resignation is a bad thing for egyptian antiquities is such a childish comment. In times of unrests there is always looting. Hawass or not, this phenomena cannot be stopped by just a person. It's the people's conscience and the law enforcement that stops that from happening. I consider this to be a great news.

i didn't say anything about hawass' value i said, NOBODY IS PROTECTING THE ANTIQUITIES. nobody.
as in n.o.b.o.d.y.

revolutions are not idealistic pie-in-the-sky adventures that can be turned off like a tv show. they have serious
side effects. destruction of 5000+ year old artifacts, is a serious side effect. they aren't collecting them to sell, they are tearing apart the mummies and smashing the vases in abydos, anyway. that means those artifacts are lost forever, and will never be recoverable from a black market salesman.

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by Telos

Implication my arse. The guy was a crook. His only mission was disinformation, cover up and misleading. Saying that Hawass resignation is a bad thing for egyptian antiquities is such a childish comment. In times of unrests there is always looting. Hawass or not, this phenomena cannot be stopped by just a person. It's the people's conscience and the law enforcement that stops that from happening. I consider this to be a great news.

i didn't say anything about hawass' value i said, NOBODY IS PROTECTING THE ANTIQUITIES. nobody.
as in n.o.b.o.d.y.

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Hehehe, yeah, leave it to law enforcement to stop the looters.

The same law enforcement who panics and gets scared when they hear gunfire from looters... what?!? And they're too busy to protect the most important sites in Egypt? For the world?

And Hawass' security isn't equipped in any way to deal with the looters... And without Hawass himself until the police pull their gear around, it's free reign. They can do basically whatever they want.

Imagine a New Orleans, where instead of TVs its artifacts thousands of years old being taken. Instead of shop windows being broken its tombs desecrated.... fantastic. Great time for one of the last people who CAN protect it to give up because they are not receiving any support, but rather further criticism at a low point in history. I'd rather have him himself smuggling out a few pieces (if rumors about him are to be true) than let the masses loot/destroy it all (which is guaranteed), to be honest.

reply to post by shagula


if that one eye witness is being truthful, they are looting on the average of 10 tombs a night from naqada period graves, in abydos, alone.

apparently not enough ancient egypt afficiandos are aware of how truly important abydos is to the rest of egyptology. it's incredibly important. i'd say, outside the pyramids at giza, abydos is the next in line as one of the top ten most important sites in egypt. and not just for egyptians, but also for iraqis, chinese, indians, iranians, israelis, the rest of africa, and most of southern europe.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by antar

 

yeah i posted these on another thread . they are both vases from abydos

family trees? some of them have feet. some don't. some of them look like tall reptilians. some look like greys.
weird pic!
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/6e77301ac273a7c4.jpg[/atsimg]

underwater scene, complete with seaweed, an underwater pyramid, and a couple of mermen??? weird pic!
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have you ever seen egyptian vases like these before? well that's because they are from abydos, and are some of the oldest pharaonic egyptian vases, naqada period.
these are the kinds of things being smashed at the moment, if the reports are true.

you won't be seeing any more of these if the robbers aren't stopped.

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Those are just stunning, no I had not the pleasure of seeing them before, at least not in this life. The first one makes me think that in their oral history, the two were met by an alien who then takes their fertility and helps them to create humanity as we know them.

Do not underestimate my deep hearted anger and frustration with what is being allowed to happen. This for me is part of the end of the chance for us to survive into the future as a whole. We are in deep trouble because everything is so damn twisted and the solutions are not coming. This is the era of Death and Dying.

Hawass is squealing? I smell a rat

I get a strange vibe from him, as if hes covering up something huge, trying to win big for himself.

What if he organized the thefts? Now with their sales he could retire comfortably.

Then exclaim the outrage and the need to resign? No...A truly passionate man would see this to the end.

In my opinion - Hes a rat - not to be trusted.

Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
No...A truly passionate man would see this to the end.

I agree 100%... at the least he would have seen who was going to take over, not just cut and run.

Like him or not, the enthusiastic Dr Hawass did more than anyone else as far as generating a much higher interest in the field of Egyptology, than there had been for many years. Not only did he bring it into our living rooms with his television specials, his passion was such that it gave the impression he was always on the verge of some great discovery, and touched many viewers in a way that left them with a newfound respect and awe, at the accomplishments of the ancient Egyptians. The episode with the mobile camera and blocked tunnel could have happened to anyone. Like most viewers, I was somewhat disappointed, but what I had learned from Dr. Hawass up to that point, more than made up for it. Anyone remember Geraldo Rivera and all the months of hype leading up to his television special that would allow the public to watch live, the use of explosives to blast a hole in a wall that was thought to be sealing off one of Al Capone's secret vaults, that supposedly contained loot, and Capone's car from the days of prohibition and the gang wars? I believe the only thing found was an empty beer bottle.

Originally posted by Bkrmn
, his passion was such that it gave the impression he was always on the verge of some great discovery,

yes the impression... but he never produced the goods

the use of explosives to blast a hole in a wall that was thought to be sealing off one of Al Capone's secret vaults, that supposedly contained loot, and Capone's car from the days of prohibition and the gang wars? I believe the only thing found was an empty beer bottle.

Maybe Jay Leno beat him to it That Car is here in Las Vegas in the Imperial Palace Casino museum

We all know - of course - teams of photographers entered many tombs - - - photographing artifacts and wall paintings/writings - - to preserve them because nature is more destructive then man.

Some mummies were moved to a lab for study - - then returned to their resting place. Tourists don't pay to see empty tombs (and for moral reasons).

Steps were taken to preserve history.

www.futurity.org...

Originally posted by Annee
We all know - of course - teams of photographers entered many tombs - - - photographing artifacts and wall paintings/writings - - to preserve them because nature is more destructive then man.

Some mummies were moved to a lab for study - - then returned to their resting place. Tourists don't pay to see empty tombs (and for moral reasons).

Steps were taken to preserve history.

www.futurity.org...

well according to the one fellow who lives by abydos, he says they are digging up graves and tombs that haven't been dug up yet, and ripping up the mummies and smashing the vases, supposedly in search of gold. abydos is like ultra important to history and egyptology. those artifacts, as yet uncovered, are now lost forever.

reply to post by zorgon
Too true, Zorgon, though most of came back still full of expectation. This isn't the first time Dr. Hawass retired. Had had retired not long before all the hype about the discovery of secret rooms beneath the Sphynx. No sooner had the news of these discoveries hit the news, he came out of "retirement" in order to take charge of the dig. There's no doubt Dr. Hawass enjoys the limelight, and it's possible he was thinking this latest discovery may just be his last "hurrah" before passing the reins onto someone else. Something must have convinced him of new discoveries so sentational that he was drawn out of retirement, as I'm sure he didn't want to be remembered for another huge and expensive project that produced more empty rooms. On the other hand, perhaps his first "retirement" and his coming out of it, was part of a plan to convince any financial backers that this latest dig was indeed the "big one", the one that would unveil the mysteries surrounding the actual construction of the Pyramids and the reason/s for building them.
Thanks for the info on Al Capone's car! I'd give my best buddy's left n#t and maybe even his right arm, to see Jay Leno's motorcyle collection!

So Hawass is more important than the looting of tombs and museums? He retired to take his name off this tragedy.

Originally posted by undo
well according to the one fellow who lives by abydos, he says they are digging up graves and tombs that haven't been dug up yet, and ripping up the mummies and smashing the vases, supposedly in search of gold. abydos is like ultra important to history and egyptology. those artifacts, as yet uncovered, are now lost forever.

Again - - I am not going to add negative energy to something I can't do anything about. It is what it is.

Its definitely discovery on speed dial - - who knows what will surface.

Not everyone has the same priorities. Maybe feeding your family has more importance then ancient history.

Too bad Hawass didn't share the wealth when he was in charge and had guards. With outside help a lot more protected excavation could have been accomplished.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

I could not have stated it better myself. I agree that he is a 'rough around the edges' kind of man, but he sees everything in black and white...which is necessary when you are protecting throusands of years of antiquity. Hated to see it happen like this.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
I'm sure a lot of people like the idea of Hawass leaving, but not under these circumstances, if anything Egyptology needs him right now more than ever. Once these items are looted, you'll never see of hear of them again, illicit private collections and the thieves who supply these markets are not partial to "disclosure".

Which is PRECISELY why him leaving at the worst possible time only goes to prove he cares more about himself than the antiquities. He wasn't fired, he wasn't removed from position, he QUIT when, as you say, he was needed most.

Have found this translation of open letter to Hawass, maybe it helps to understand the situation:

Open letter

Originally posted by sergejsh
Have found this translation of open letter to Hawass, maybe it helps to understand the situation:

I'm not really sure what that says.

Can you paraphrase what it says?

This is probably why most History is wiped out, as usual, Human greed.

Now all we need is a comet (or solar body traveling at the speed of Light) to blow by and we can see the destruction caused by one quake, or two, or three, or four..... taking place in various parts of the World. I mean, it could happen just that easily!

Then more people would gravitate towards the Equator, because it was warmer and they would find Pyramids, and they will bury their dead Kings in them, claiming they made them as burial tombs, and the cycle begins anew.


end rant....

Originally posted by zorgon
why him leaving at the worst possible time only goes to prove he cares more about himself than the antiquities. He wasn't fired, he wasn't removed from position, he QUIT when, as you say, he was needed most.

But he does have to look out for #1.

I bet alot of people who owe their positions to the former regime are stepping down so as to protect themselves from the revolution. They can't do anything for their family if they are dead and it is not like Hawas could do anything to stop the looters anyhow.