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Originally posted by JimFetzer
Does this kind of mindless blather pass for your conception of an argument? Read my posts and respond with logic and evidence, if you can. I am confident you are posing without any idea of what you are talking about. I don't want to insult you, but your posts are drivel.
reply to post by hooper
Indeed, there is also no evidence that a plane crashed in a field in Shanksville.
Originally posted by hooper
Sorry, but this statement of yours:
"Indeed, there is also no evidence that a plane crashed in a field in Shanksville."
Pretty much seals the deal on you being serious. Talk about drivel.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
and thousands of people from Ted Olson to a C-130 pilot to an immigrant from El Salvador to even a guy working in a junk yard are all co-conspirators who are lying to cover up this sinister secret plot
Originally posted by hooper
Yes, of course you're right. It goes much, much deeper than just a Shanksville No Planer.
Do you believe this guy is actually educated? I mean little things always stick out to me like "proving allege phone calls were fake".
Really, the guy is telling me in the same breath that the phone calls may or may not have happened (alleged) but either way they have been proven to be fake! Its one or the other. If you can't prove something exist then you can't prove that its not genuine.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
Obviously, I have made the mistake of assuming more of you were current with research on 9/11. If you go to the versions of the articles I have linked, they have active links to supporting studies. Meanwhile, here's a sampler. Plus I do interviews about 9/11, JFK, etc. almost every week: radiofetzer.blogspot.com....
Originally posted by JimFetzer
when I DEFEND THE 9/11 MOVEMENT
Originally posted by JimFetzer
Doesn't it strike you as THE LEAST BIT ODD that, when I DEFEND THE 9/11 MOVEMENT, Kevin Ryan ATTACKS ME?
Originally posted by JimFetzer
uch as that I ADVOCATE "SPACE BEAMS" when I only ADVOCATE THEIR STUDY.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
I identify evidence supporting video fakery in my rebuttal
--the impossible speed
Originally posted by JimFetzer
and the plane passing through its own length into the building in the same number of frames that it passes through its own length in air, which implies that a 500,000-ton steel and concrete structure provided no more resistance to the planes trajectory than air.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
I cite a article where I discuss all of this, "More Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11", in case you didn't notice.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
I also observed in passing that we have additional proof that the plane shown is not real from the absence of any strobe lights on the top or bottom of its fuselage and on its wing tips.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
My inference is that your imagination is too limited to realize that what we are seeing has to be faked, either by the use of computer-generated images, video compositing, or a hologram.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
Our only advantage over you in a case like this is that we have been studying the evidence and you have not.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
Posts like yours, however, are suggesting that perhaps I was mistaken and had excessive expectations for reason and rationality on this forum .
Originally posted by JimFetzer
You do understand that I have a Ph,D
Originally posted by JimFetzer
but it might suggest that there it more than a remote possibility that I actually am right.
Originally posted by JimFetzer
"New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11"
www.opednews.com...
Originally posted by ATH911
And don't bother with BoneZ either. He's the resident angry 9/11 Truth Cop
Originally posted by ATH911
He preaches censorship.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
So in other words, you're insisting I'm wrong when I say you're just getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy web sites
Obviously, I have made the mistake of assuming more of you were current with research on 9/11
MCINTYRE: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon
WOODRUFF: Jamie, Aaron was talking earlier -- or one of our correspondence was talking earlier -- I think -- actually, it was Bob Franken -- with an eyewitness who said it appeared that that Boeing 757, the American jet, American Airline jet, landed short of the Pentagon. Can you give us any better idea of how much of the plane actually impacted the building?
MCINTYRE: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site is the actual site of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you can pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
Originally posted by vipertech0596
This was Mr McIntyre's COMPLETE answer....
MCINTYRE: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site is the actual site of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you can pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
"which would indicate the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon"
In other words, Mr McIntyre was not saying that no plane had hit the Pentagon. He was saying that there was no evidence the the plane had hit the ground FIRST before hitting the building.