Weekend of protests across the UK

Protests over student fees

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Thousands attended a joint rally in Manchester organised by students and trade unions.

Six people were arrested in disturbances when a group broke away from the main body of protesters.

In central London, thousands of students staged a noisy protest march which ended in a rally in Westminster.

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Protests planned over cuts

"I am tired of being told that we face tough economic choices by a chancellor who is more interested in evading tax and helping his friends do likewise, than in helping our nation's young," Hunt said. "How does he expect anyone to believe we are all in it together when he is slashing tax for big business?" On Sunday at least 30 different tax avoidance demonstrations are planned by UK Uncut. Using the Twitter hashtag #ukuncut, the fast-expanding group has become a rallying point for opponents of the government's cuts.

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Organisers website: ukuncut.org.uk

Planned protest in aberdeen, scotland:

Protesters are expected to gather outside Aberdeen Art Gallery at 12.45pm before making their way to Boots stores across the town.

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And then we get the police threat:

Police could use more extreme tactics on protesters, Sir Hugh Orde warns.
The Metropolitan police faced questions over its handling of violent student protests last December, but defended the use of kettling, despite admitting that it could "interfere with the rights of citizens".

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pardon my naivete, but please explain to me exactly what these people are protesting. I would appreciate it.

reply to post by Spinster


It is about time.

Corporations have progressively gained profits, quarter over quarter, without fail while the rest of the populous suffers.

Students that apply their learning are as beautiful as a baby taking their first step.

Peace

reply to post by Spinster


I had actually started to post about these ongoings earlier Here, it seems to gain little interest here at ATS.

Egypt seems to have all eyes that way at the minute.

reply to post by MMPI2


Dammit! I forgot it was tommorow

MMP12 They're protesting over the huge rise in student Fees

Unfortunately im going to be One of the Special Officers in Manchester tommorow

reply to post by TedHodgson


ok...i see.

what do the students in the UK expect in terms of tuition fees?

i guess i am asking because it seems that folks in these countries with the socialist model believe that benefits, wages, etc. are always gonna be favorable, and that the government should make them favorable. these students don't seem to understand that the money for all the goodies has to come from somebody, and that sometimes money runs out.

sorta like spoiled children, maybe......

reply to post by MMPI2


If the government won't even bother to educate it's own people, maybe it has no place taxing them to oblivion?

I don't know. Just a thought.

I would actually like to see the UK get all Egyptian over the next week or two.

Maybe kick out that royal family. Would renew my faith in the British people.

Oh yeah, and tear all those CCTV cameras down too

Not my country, but if it was, that's what I would want.

reply to post by MMPI2


Im Agree Completely! The fact is that the Money has run out and The government cant afford to Support the students in a way which they could at One time

I never saw the Point in Such education anyway, I did a Degree through the Open University Online and it only me £1500, In my oppinion These students are just looking for an Easy ride Through a few years of their Lives. But its the People like me who have to deal with the Problems they are causing

reply to post by muzzleflash


The royal Familly arnt the problem, They are just a symbol these days and pretty much have caused none of the trouble at all

The govrtnment are the ones who need to be removed from Office

reply to post by TedHodgson


I can understand things from your point of view, but how is a 16 year old school leaver supposed to come up with this £1500 to further theyre education.

reply to post by TedHodgson


Nobody should vote for either of them in the next General election. Now that would screw up the democratic so called system.

Labour, Conservativs and the Liberals are as bad as each other. None of these parties can be trusted anymore. Hell no politician can be trusted anymore. They all should resign at the next election. And let us the elector get rid of them once and for all.

And its about high time, us citizzens came out and stuck it to them. These protests are only going to become bigger and more violent as they go along.

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


I worked for a year before Buying the course

Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by MMPI2

 

Im Agree Completely! The fact is that the Money has run out and The government cant afford to Support the students in a way which they could at One time

I never saw the Point in Such education anyway, I did a Degree through the Open University Online and it only me £1500, In my oppinion These students are just looking for an Easy ride Through a few years of their Lives. But its the People like me who have to deal with the Problems they are causing

edit on 29/1/11 by TedHodgson because: (no reason given)

see, these statements make sense to me.

why would someone expect that a government anywhere should be responsible for educating them?

i tend to think that people who believe that a government should act like a mommy, nanny or a rich daddy have fallen prey to a massive psychological operation.

what about the right of self-determination? what about being free adults and making your own way in the world without having a semi-benevolent dictator paying your way.

to paraphrase: a government that has the power to give us everything we want also has the power to take away everything we have.

reply to post by Laurauk


Very well said, a big from me on that one.

2nd.

Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

The royal Familly arnt the problem, They are just a symbol these days and pretty much have caused none of the trouble at all

The govrtnment are the ones who need to be removed from Office

They are a symbol of aristocracy. Of power.
Of gross wealth through imperialism over centuries of war.

That's what the monarch is a symbol of.

Can't everyone see that by now?

Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

The royal Familly arnt the problem, They are just a symbol these days and pretty much have caused none of the trouble at all

The govrtnment are the ones who need to be removed from Office

That's not quite true. The queen is at the forefront of the global elitist agenda. They may appear just symbols but the aristocracy are a part of the problem. The entire caste system needs to be thrown out and replaced with a fairer system where all men and women are equal.

reply to post by TedHodgson


LOL, it would take a school leaver a lot longer than a year to save that at the rates they get paid these days.

I can see how this thread is going to go already.

reply to post by Laurauk


Though you may be right, I think it would be more efficient to Harness all the anger and energy and turn the Protests against Everything that Government stands for, Rather than Just prostesting about a rise in fees, Everyone should just be prostesting Against everything if you get my meaning

reply to post by MMPI2


Off the top of my head:

1) The government has a monopoly on the use of force to enforce their claim to the natural resources of the state, over the objections or wellbeing of thee people who actually live there.

2) If through financial or legislative means, the "government" removes the ability to compete with its corporate benefactors, the people will no longer have the means to "earn" their education, their "health insurance" or even their food and shelter. The people cannot address this through force, as the government alone "owns" this right (see 1 above). Therefore -- what would you recommend they do to address the inequality?