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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Originally posted by nightbringr
What makes you think a popular uprising against the current administration would not be orchastrated by the so-called NWO itself anyways?
Bingo. And exactly why I don't trust anyone or anything (nothing do to with paranoia, but more suspicion), especially if they're working too hard to convince me. The people who want or support a new world order in one are everywhere, literally. And many are doing it unknowingly.
Originally posted by Robfire
reply to post by Ben81
I have been watching these events unfold and i feel for these people in Egypt etc they have seen the light and as i see it there is no going back.I truly hope this goes totally global because even here in our "Democratic" West we are enslaved to the corrupt powers that be.It just needs more sheeple to wake up and to see whats really going on in this world of OURS
Originally posted by DogsDogsDogs
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Originally posted by nightbringr
What makes you think a popular uprising against the current administration would not be orchastrated by the so-called NWO itself anyways?
Bingo. And exactly why I don't trust anyone or anything (nothing do to with paranoia, but more suspicion), especially if they're working too hard to convince me. The people who want or support a new world order in one are everywhere, literally. And many are doing it unknowingly.
To nightbringer... assuming you mean the US admin, aren't they one and the same; that being Obama's purpose
(the "transformation" of America)? The same people are behind him who back the Clintons (the Clintons being *very* big fish) It isn't as if they're being subtle.
Great point, Lucidity! We see it here every day.
How much of this is as much about vulnerability to "outside" forces (jackals/ vultures) as it appears at face value.
Except for Iran- Lebanon especially, these are odd things to be happening in these cultures. Why now...simultaneously? Look hard...edit on 28-1-2011 by DogsDogsDogs because: correction/ clarity
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by nightbringr
I propose an immediate suspension of all drug laws and morality laws.
taxes to be tied directly to consumption, not income
a federal government that provides only a defense of borders (its only legitimate function, and it is failing miserably)
abolishment of all political parties, with equal funding allowed to each candidate
the removal of "corporate entity" from our legal concepts
a defense budget that is less than 20% of current
I have many other ideas for what to do when we pick the pieces back up. Or do you want ideas for how to bring them down? Yeah...i am not as interested in raising hell as i am in getting over that unsavory hump and getting back to making America what it was destined to be: free.
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
While I agree that this needs to happen (Globally) , my spidey senses tells me not everything is as it seem's .I sense another Western funded revolution (just waiting for a colour to be adopted).Have you noticed it is not the traditional Muslim population that is up rising ,it is younger Western Idealized youth that are rising .We need to look into the history of who is leading this movement , their travel, their education and funding .You will remember the failed riots in Iran .Do you remember how the media portrayed the Muslim card? yet if you looked at the youth involved they all wore the best and most expensive Western brand name clothing .Most of them were actually Iraqi's bought by the West and not even Iranian's.We all know the huge desire the Western World has for Yemen and the large international military and navel presence in the area .While I believe the followers of this movement are genuine as well as their grievances I suspect they are being manipulated .
Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Also, im not sure i support THAT large a drop in defense spending. China is rising and needs someone to keep them in check before they run rampant over the free world.
Communism is BAD.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Also, im not sure i support THAT large a drop in defense spending. China is rising and needs someone to keep them in check before they run rampant over the free world.
Communism is BAD.
In 2008 China spent 65 bil. We spent 683 bil. 20% of that is still twice what China spends. If we can't secure our national defense on an amount that is twice what is spent by a nation that is "stepping up their defense", then we are doing something horribly wrong.
BTW, when i say "abolish parties", i mean just that. Not a single party, nor any variation of a party. Our Creator made us as individuals. Our individuality is a strength, as it lends perspective and a wider breadth of thought and experience. We will do our best when we synergize the individual aspects of humanity, rather than yielding our willpower to mob rule.
As well, a political party will always be put before the nation. The men and women to take our tax dollars to serve should damned well have America as priority number 1, and screw the Republicrats.
Originally posted by DogsDogsDogs
reply to post by nightbringr
I excepted Iran because the government there is *so* oppressive and brutal. I guess it remains to be seen if the Egyptian government deals with their protesters as brutally as Iran has, and is. I doubt it! Lebanon is a relatively free country- or at least seems WAY more "lax" as far as religious oppression goes. I guess I could be comparing apples & oranges here (religious oppression vs poverty & corruption altho those certainly exist in Iran and elsewhere in the ME). My point, really, is that this isn't occurring so "naturally". The unhappiness exists, but imo, it's being stoked.
To be honest, it makes me sad to see such headlines over Egypt and Tunisia. The Persians were and are so worthy of our sympathy and support.
Someone said- here or on one of the other threads, that it's the westernized younger generation behind this. (It's true, they are inspired by the west to want freedom and some cultural change), but there's also some regret on the part of their parents and older people. Quite a few are carrying their parents' dreams forward.
Geez, I digressed. Are these uprisings coming from a "Muslim extremist" angle or somewhere else? There's a lot of opportunity here. *That* was my main point, with the idea that they're being fomented vs "natural".edit on 28-1-2011 by DogsDogsDogs because: grrr this "hovering" hairtrigger trackpad!