Original purpose behind celebacy in religion ...reverse the flow = Enlightenment

From tons and tons of studies ....I have come across the theories ( and associated testified experiential attestations ..both from others and personally) ....

....That sexual energy and the orgasm can be reversed (and begins to happen naturally in celebacy).

In that reversal the subtleties of Sexual energy begins to flow upwards and ends up in the heart and brain resulting in Enlightenment, a clear and profound expanded awareness, and complete contentment, amongst much other awesomeness.

It leads to direct access to spiritual realms and there is no longer a need for sex, because the reversal itself becomes vast Love and 24/7 inner orgasm ..which makes the outer act pale in comparison.

Somewhere along the way ....this was forgotten, or seen as magick, or of the devil (Catholicism) and left alone. And I think we all know what happens when anything physical or psychological gets regressed ...it comes back 100 fold ...as in the case of all the Priests molesting children and other similar stories in all the other religions.

But researching this it is found in the Egyptian mysteries, by Shamans in the Amazon, certain Christian Mystic groups, Hinduism, Taoism, and even Buddhism.

If you want links ...use your fav search engine with keywords: transmute lust, kundalini, spiritual organs, reverse orgasm, etc.

Edit*** I dont have any links posted because this topic is still of a mysterious nature and not at all understood by science. It is esoteric. There are just too many links from to many websites from too many religions to include any specific one.

Anyway here's one from Wiki ...should be enough to help continue research endeavors:
Sexual Sublimation

So, you don't have any valid links you just want me to search through random nonsense on google? The only thing that celibacy achieves is an increased risk of prostrate cancer and sexual frustration

reply to post by dominicus


In my studies, especially Yoga and Taoism, your premise for reversal of the sexual energy would be correct. However it is also made clear that just celibacy without mental disciplines to direct the flow will cause abberant thought patterns and even psychosis, as well as the attendant physical maladies like prostatitis and a host of other potential glandular problems.

I studied with Mantak Chia and have practiced the Micro Cosmic Orbit to great effect:www.healing-tao.co.uk...

It takes years of discipline and I am yet incomplete in my studies but highly recommend it. Is it the origins of celibacy in the West, yes I think so too, but like many things it lost its merit when used in part to dominate and control.

Sexual energy can be used and abused in more ways than just sex or masturbation. If we think of the sexual energy in us as being a substance capable of 'creating' new life; one way is the well-known sexual act inolving a member of the opposite sex and the other? The other is much more difficult to explain.

In order for a new life, a child, to be born, we require an outside influence. Our positive requires a negative or vice-versa, so to speak. So, if we are to use this sexual energy within ourselves to form a new 'life' (astral body, soul, what have you) within us, from where to we acquire this additional influence? Internal friction? Meditation? Fasting? Denial of carnal pleasures.

There are a lot of questions...I could ramble on and on...good topic.

sigh - common knowledge needs a reference? Ok...

Clerical celebacy as defined by the Catholic Church states that priests are to remain unmarried and chaste in their office in order to not be bound by the desires of the flesh and encumbered in marriage, devoting their lives to serving God.

The actual canon states: Clerics are obliged to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the kingdom of heaven and therefore are bound to celibacy which is a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can adhere more easily to Christ with an undivided heart and are able to dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and humanity." Link below.


the reason may vary, but its common in many monastic studies to remain celibate while adhering to the rules.

I agree with you, OP. "Controlled Celibacy" is a key to spiritual enlightenment. In fact, sex is nothing but a waste of spiritual energy and should be used for procreation only. If everyone on Earth had sex ONLY for procreation, there would be no more accidental pregnancies, abortions, etc.
In Hinduism it is called Brahmacharya. Roughly it translates to "dedicated to God." Brahmacharya teaches not only abstinence from sex, but also abstinence of all things that drain your spiritual energy, or cut you off from God, the True Self.
www.dlshq.org...

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I agree with you, OP. "Controlled Celibacy" is a key to spiritual enlightenment. In fact, sex is nothing but a waste of spiritual energy and should be used for procreation only. If everyone on Earth had sex ONLY for procreation, there would be no more accidental pregnancies, abortions, etc. In Hinduism it is called Brahmacharya. Roughly it translates to "dedicated to God." Brahmacharya teaches not only abstinence from sex, but also abstinence of all things that drain your spiritual energy, or cut you off from God, the True Self. www.dlshq.org...

awesome ! thanks for the input and the link. Im glad there a people around that know about this stuff.

And also shows how a misunderstanding of this has led to perverted monks, molesting priests, and a zillion dollar porn industry!!!!!

The following website has by far the most and best references for unlocking the true Esoteric meaning of Scientific Chastity, as found in the scriptures of all the World's Religions:

Sacred-Sex.org: "The present Dalai Lama is a Cognizant, Self-Realized Master" - Samael Aun Weor

"In Tibetan Buddhism, especially if you look at the iconography of the deities with their consorts, you can see a lot of very explicit sexual symbolism which often gives the wrong impression. Actually, in this case the sexual organ is utilized, but the energy movement which is taking place is, in the end, fully controlled.

"The energy should never be let out. This energy must be controlled and eventually returned to other parts of the body. What is required for a Tantric practitioner is to develop the capacity to utilize one's faculties of bliss and the blissful experiences which are specifically generated due to the flow of regenerative fluids within one's own energy channels. It is crucial to have the ability to protect oneself from the fault of emission. It is not just a purely ordinary sexual act.

"And here we can see there is a kind of special connection with celibacy. Especially in the practice of the Kalachakra Tantra, this precept of protecting oneself from the emission of energy is considered to be very important. The Kalachakra literature mentions three types of blissful experience: one is the blissful experience induced by the flow of energy; one is the immutable blissful experience; and one is the mutable blissful experience.

"To me, when Buddha took the celibacy vow, at that level he did not explain all the reasons behind that rule or that discipline. The complete explanation comes when we know the Tantrayana system."

– The Fourteenth Dalai Lama, The Heart of the Buddha’s Path

And before we proceed further in this thread, I would like to define the following terminologies, in order for us to first have our semantics straight:

Adultery - To have sexual relations–whether mentally or physically–with someone who is not our Spouse.
Celibacy - An unmarried state.
Chastity - The proper channeling of the sexual energy–whether we are celibate or married–and the renunciation of fornication.
Fornication - The orgasm, and lust in general.
Karmamudra (Sexual Magic) - The chaste cultivation of sexual energy during the physical sexual act, which is veiled in all the World's Religious scriptures. One of the main Completion Stage practices of Anuyoga Tantra.
Pranayama - To 'restrain the breath', which is the primary sexual-sublimation method for bachelors and bachelorettes to stay in chastity.
Transmutation - To transformation of the sexual matter into sublimated sexual energy.
White Tantra - The Science of the chaste harnessing of all the energies of the body, mind, and consciousness, in order to have a harmonious flow & Continuum of Prana, Thigle, Vayu, Tattvas, Ether, etc.

The above definitions are more or less in my own words, so see the Gnostic Glossary for more concise definitions.

Any of you read on the Bridal Chamber in the gnostic texts?

Originally posted by siree
I agree with you, OP. "Controlled Celibacy" is a key to spiritual enlightenment. In fact, sex is nothing but a waste of spiritual energy and should be used for procreation only. If everyone on Earth had sex ONLY for procreation, there would be no more accidental pregnancies, abortions, etc.
In Hinduism it is called Brahmacharya. Roughly it translates to "dedicated to God." Brahmacharya teaches not only abstinence from sex, but also abstinence of all things that drain your spiritual energy, or cut you off from God, the True Self.
www.dlshq.org...

Brahmacharya by Swami Sivananda is an excellent book!

However it is a book that was written during the Age of Pisces, although it is still particularly useful for bachelors and bachelorettes who want to stay in chastity until God brings them their Spouse.

Anyhow, we are now in the Age of Aquarius, and the Tantric practice of Karma-Mudra is now being unveiled and taught publicly (for example, study the quote from the Dalai Lama in my previous post), so that we may Procreate Spiritually by Raising the Kundalini–as to Build the Solar Bodies (the Solar Astral Body, Solar Mental Body, Solar Causal Body)–and eliminating our egos.

"Sivananda intensely worked in the Great Work of the Father. Thus, he is a Guru-Deva in the most complete sense of the word."

"We recommend our readers study the great works of the female Master Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, entitled The Secret Doctrine. We also recommend Kundalini Yoga of Sivananda, the books of Dr. Arnold Krumm-Heller, the books of Dr. Adoum, the books of Rudolf Steiner, etc., etc."



"On another occasion in the superior worlds, I was speaking to Sivananda who had recently died. I remember that I was attending a conference and giving a speech. I was speaking in the Secret Secretorum about Tantra and about the alchemist laboratory. We were suddenly visited by Sivananda, who said, “Don’t you see that you are vulgarizing the knowledge? If we were given the key to Alchemy, we were given it knowing that we should never vulgarize this sacred knowledge!”

"When we started to discuss it I said to him, “I am ready to answer all your questions.” Now Sivananda, even though a human being, had very good sense. He sat down in eastern style and went into deep meditation. A little while later I felt that somebody was scratching my head from the inside. When I looked into my head, I saw this yogi there in profound meditation. When he finished his meditation, he stood up and said, “Now I understand the message you are giving to humanity, and I agree with you Samael. I will advise the people to read your books because now I understand all that you are doing.”

"I embraced him saying, “I also hold you in high esteem, Sivananda.” Of course he is a human being, but he is more judicious than others, at least having the aptitudes of not being a human being, and also possessing extraordinary mystical abilities."

- Samael Aun Weor

I completely represent the school of thought that one should let his/her sexual energy take it's natural course. There is nothing wrong with orgasm or sexual behaviour, quite the opposite. How many of this world's problems come from surpressed sexuality?

I'll take the wiccan style on this one: if doesn't harm others (or yourself), it's good. Sex is fun and sex is healthy (at least for most people). In no way sexual impulses should be repressed. It's completely different thing thing to have an healthy sex life than giving up to every "low" desire you possess.

A bit left-hand path there, but what can you do

I find my lower back and spine becomes strong during chaste periods, and is weakened when, well, you know.. why is that?

Originally posted by Throwback
Any of you read on the Bridal Chamber in the gnostic texts?

Are you referring to this scripture?

Sacred-Sex: The Gospel of Philip

The Bridal Chamber reminds us of the Wedding Garment of the Soul, the Hermetic Marriage, the Chemical Wedding of the Rosicrucians, etc.

Also remember that Yeshua Ben Pandira's first miracle was at the Wedding of Cana, where He Transmuted Water (Mayim) into Wine (Vayin, or Yayin).

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I completely represent the school of thought that one should let his/her sexual energy take it's natural course. There is nothing wrong with orgasm or sexual behaviour, quite the opposite. How many of this world's problems come from surpressed sexuality?

Its not supression ...its redirection. Having had both; sex with women and having had just the preliminary beginnings of the reversal of sexual energy ..... the reversed version is frickin awesome and lasts for days/weeks, expands awareness. Im now on the school of thought that if any of my male friends were to experience 1 second of this ......they would eventually make the switch.

Reply to Newageman

I find my lower back and spine becomes strong during chaste periods, and is weakened when, well, you know.. why is that?

yeah same here....definitely has to do with this whole topic.

reply to post by Tamahu


Yes. I recall there being a physical element to it. Basically sex without orgasm, just literally merging with each other.

reply to post by dominicus


Well, the way I see it..

Orgasm might just actually be THE connection with "god". I mean, there's nothing wrong to restrain from sex from time to time. And by no means sex is any final "ecstasy". It's temporary, like ecstasy usually is.

Just to let you know, orgasm reliefs stress and tension etc. But do what your body tells you to do. That IMO is the most certain way to keep harmony.

Second question: how much bliss can you take?

Originally posted by Throwback
Yes. I recall there being a physical element to it. Basically sex without orgasm, just literally merging with each other.

Let us point out that simply having sex without orgasm is not necessarily White Tantra in and of itself (nevertheless, the renunciation of the orgasm is the Foundation (Yesod) of White Tantra).

And even though symbols related to Marriage, Weddings, Matrimony, etc. may have other levels of meaning in addition to symbolizing Karmamudra, it is still taught that in order to Transform the Embryo of the Soul into the full-fledged Human Soul, we must perform Sexual Alchemy (hence the Buddhist saying: "Without Karmamudra no Mahamudra.")

The orgasm always feeds the egos and makes them stronger, which is why sexual magic with orgasm is called Black Tantra (however sexual magic with occasional orgasm is Grey Tantra, which inevitably leads to Black Tantra).

Originally posted by Tamahu

But the orgasm always makes the egos stronger, so sex magic with orgasm is always Black Tantra (however sex magic with occasional orgasm is Grey Tantra, which inevitably leads to Black Tantra).

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May I ask you (as much as i enjoy your posts) on what you base this on? Isn't orgasm one of the the things we were given by the "higher power"?

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"Although I am using this ordinary term, sexual climax, it does not imply the ordinary sexual act. The reference here is to the experience of entering into union with a consort of the opposite sex, by means of which the elements at the crown are melted, and through the power of Meditation the process is also reversed.

"A prerequisite of such a practice is that you should be able to protect yourself from the fault of seminal emission. According to the explanation of the Kalachakra Tantra in particular, such emission is said to be very damaging to your practice. Therefore, because you should not experience emission even in dreams, the tantras describe different techniques for overcoming this fault."

- H.H. the Fourteenth Dalai Lama

Sex and Kalachakra Tantra: "The present Dalai Lama is a Cognizant, Self-Realized Master" - V.M. Samael Aun Weor

"Now, as for the actual root downfall of discarding Bodhichitta, this is talking about having the mind that wishes liberation through the bliss of orgasmic release ('dzag-bde grol-ba 'dod-kyi sems). As for this bliss of orgasmic release, some non-Buddhist traditions (mu-stegs-pa) assert that offering a homa fire puja of semen in the Reality Source of a woman pleases Ishvara (dBang-phyug, Shiva) and that through this one can achieve moksha, liberation. But, liberation doesn't happen like that. Therefore, specifically to stop this mistaken practice, the vow was made that if, with a mind wishing for liberation through the bliss of orgasmic release, one ejaculates one's constituent source energy-drops externally (phyi-rol-du khams-phong-ba), it is a root downfall. Usually, however, when one has and ejaculates semen, there is no thought of wishing liberation through the bliss of releasing it. Thus, it is not a root downfall.

"However, there is a transgression and ignoring (chag-'dor) of the root vow. One was not taking care about one's seminal energy-drops (khu-ba bdag-po-ma-byed). Thus, there is a transgression of the root vow, but not a complete root downfall. If one is a practitioner and one's constituent-source energy-drops are lost (khams nyams-pa yin-pa), then one weakens the generation of unchanging bliss."

- H.H. the Fourteenth Dalai Lama

Originally posted by MagoSA
sigh - common knowledge needs a reference? Ok...

Clerical celebacy as defined by the Catholic Church states that priests are to remain unmarried and chaste in their office in order to not be bound by the desires of the flesh and encumbered in marriage, devoting their lives to serving God.

The actual canon states: Clerics are obliged to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the kingdom of heaven and therefore are bound to celibacy which is a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can adhere more easily to Christ with an undivided heart and are able to dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and humanity." Link below.

the reason may vary, but its common in many monastic studies to remain celibate while adhering to the rules.

I would argue the opposite. True, deep meditators that reach the "as one" level may argue that sexual energy is a hinderence and needs to be, shall we say, exhausted, before serious meditating is attempted.

We certainly know that pentup sexual frustration causes abnormal behavior in both sexes and even animals. That should be enough to show what is a help or a hinderance. Of course, we won't want to get into the concept that sex has been long held as a "no-no" by the pious folks would we?