Obama's Birth certificate: Hawaii Governor Abercrombie's Birther mission

reply to post by thecinic


I did not vote for Obama! I do not like Obama. He will go down in history as the most naive and worthless president in history.

So, now that we are clear on me being able to breathe, without tasting Obama shart... What is my excuse for defending logic?

I don't care what you are defending sir..

The request is simple, easy, simple minded, and straight forward.

Just show Obamas original birth certificate and that will be it.

You have no proof, not anymore then us, that he really was born in Hawaii..

So don't get your cloth in a wad over it...

Just show the freaking birth certificate and that will be enough. Oh, wait, we already saw a reprint of something like a birth certificate. No, wait, there's evidence he was born in Kenya, Hmmm, what shall we do ?

Show the freaking birth certificate and that would be enough.

Just show the freaking birth certificate and that will be enough. Oh, wait, we already saw a reprint of something like a birth certificate. No, wait, there's evidence he was born in Kenya, Hmmm, what shall we do ?

Show the freaking birth certificate and that would be enough.

reply to post by thecinic


"Wacky Birthers".. That is such an amazing quote.

Did you read that they need to change policy to release it? Because some group of "birthers" wants more proof, they should just answer to all of these requests?

When is enough enough? Who draws that line? They provided a certificate of live birth, you say that is insufficient. What are you going to say when they release the birth certificate? Sounds like they are going to, are you going to concede? Or will you call it a fraud? Then ask "why so long"?

It is actually comical.. The internet has it's pluses and minuses. Fringe groups can find and dwell on exciting topics like this. I truly hope that they release this birth certificate. I hope it is beyond recourse. Only then can I take pleasure in the days that "birthers" have WASTED chasing such a silly silly conspiracy.

reply to post by Resurrectio


Dude, I haven't chased anything..

I didn't even know what a *birther* was until this thread.

I always wondered though well, why didn't he just show the original birth certificate to shut them up?

Still years later NO ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Am I going to loose sleep over this? HELL NO

What are we going to do about it now that he is in office? NOTHING

You see sir the point still remains, if Obama told Hawaii to release his original birth certificate THEY WOULD.

It is RIDICULOUS having to go through a court system in Hawaii to get an original birth certificate.

Obama could give the word and it could be shown to the world..

So either Obama is hiding something, or he wasn't born in the exact way, exact place, TPTB now say so.

Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

What is hard for you to understand? Ignorant as defined is exactly what they are.

They need to make policy changes to release what "birthers" want. Birthers think they can reach in a file cabinet and pull it out.. It is not that easy.

or perhaps it would define you, choosing to ignore the inconvenient and unresolved issue of his place of birth.

If you call everyone who disagrees with you "ignorant" you will eventually have the whole world as an enemy.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan



It is unresolved? Oh, that's right... Unresolved by your definition? ..

Did I call everyone that disagrees with me ignorant? So cliche .. "calling everyone that disagrees with you ignorant"

Nope.. Just folks that are ignorant. It has nothing to do with agreeing with me... Hell, I am ignorant on some things. Likewise, I am sure you are also ignorant on some subjects.

I feel it is such a silly subject. You can bet your fat fury arse that people, much more wealthy and powerful than ourselves have spent millions digging into this. They provided a certificate of live birth, which is normally handed out when a birth certificate is not obtainable.

I do not have a birth certificate. I have a COLB. I am able to get a passport and any other thing I want with this..

Seems the only thing I couldn't do, is prove to you where I was born, with it.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan



Double post

Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
Good Question. Obvious answer IMO.
www.realclearpolitics.com...

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


I truly hope they release a real birth certificate. BUT, we all know this will not clear up anything. this has grown legs like the pentagon missile delusion.

Originally posted by Resurrectio

They had already released what they felt was sufficient evidence..

But.. with the birth of "birthers" he now feels it is necessary to release more info.

He is going to look for Obama's approval, but is prepared to stop the madness on his own if he has to.

Wonder what all the birthers will have to cry about once they see his birth certificate?

Will they find a new cause? Or will they call it a fake.. One thing is for sure.. THEY WILL NOT BE SATISFIED!

I can hear it now.. "Why did it take so long" Simple answer - They released what they felt was sufficient evidence.. Now they are being faced with a mob of ignorant people that are demanding more.

As a Govt. official, they must draw the line on providing evidence to everyone that asks. Imagine if they fulfilled every request for every thing that the public wants... They would have to employ 5 to 10 new employees in every state to handle this work load.

Or; there really is an "issue" here.
Typical: None of this reply addresses a single question.Merely adhominem attacks on the questioners

Originally posted by Resurrectio
Then, at what point do you draw the line? Do you bow to every request? Every doubt? Every conspiracy nut, with nothing better to do?

I always thought, why not release it? But again, they felt they covered all bases with the first document release.

And from the sounds of it, they have to make policy changes that would allow Hawaii to release additional evidence that Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.

So now, our Govt. is having to make policy changes to appease the nuts! What a great state of affairs we are in.

www.examiner.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 12/28/2010 by Resurrectio because: (no reason given)

Dec 27: CHRIS MATTHEWS(leg tingler inchief) SAYS"

On Monday night's edition of "Hardball," host Chris Matthews talked about putting the birth certificate controversy surrounding President Obama to rest.

"Why has the president himself not demanded they put out the original documents?" Matthews wonders.

"If it exists, why not put it out?" Chris Matthews asks.







www.realclearpolitics.com...:

Originally posted by rlrsar
He could have become a Naturalized citizen when he returned to the USA, but there is no record of that.

There's also no record of him being adopted OR becoming an Indonesian citizen, but I guess those facts don't matter to the birthers. That's why I say this won't make a difference at all in the birther movement. They're on a mission. They deny the facts that disprove their case and hang onto flimsy suspicions that prove nothing.

Originally posted by rlrsar
If both of your parents were from the moon and you were born in Maine you would be a US citizen, a Native born citizen but NOT a Natrual born citizen. Natural born status is reserved for people born on US soil to parents (plural) that are citizens of the USA. The only place that this status matters is for the ofice of President. Our founding fathers did not want anyone with any loyalty to any other country (or the moon in your case) to be the head of this country.

Show me where this is stipulated by our founding fathers or the Constitution, please.

Originally posted by xyankee
What is really sad is that even thought this memo goes around, no one thinks about Terry L. who is sitting in jail and forfeited his career in the hope to get to the truth!

Lakin is an idiot and so is his lawyer. They weren't aware of the law. They screwed up badly. Lakin risked his career and lost. It's his own fault.

Originally posted by Resurrectio
So, now that we are clear on me being able to breathe, without tasting Obama shart... What is my excuse for defending logic?

I'm just so impressed with you, I could scream! Thank you for not letting your politics rule your judgment, like so many others.

reply to post by Resurrectio


You stated that it was preposterous to imagine that no-one in govt checked out his eligibility.

I point you to a confirmed (confidential) congressional memo, confirming that his eligibility was never checked or verified.

You ignore this - and still maintain he was vetted - I would say it is you who are looking like the crazy wacky denying conspiracy believer now!

reply to post by Resurrectio


Yes I want to see your COLB.

I bet you are not telling the truth about this ONLY to back your op so you have something to stand on..

Because the way the thread is now, you have hit a big face palm on your quest to deny ignorance sir..

Originally posted by thecinic
Yes I want to see your COLB.

You want too much. You are not entitled to see someone's COLB or birth certificate unless they WANT you to. It's a private document and property of the state in which a person was born. You have no right to it, just as you have no right to see the private documents of the president.

And to call the OP a liar??? Really, that's so lame.

reply to post by thecinic


As a matter of fact .. I also do not have one for my oldest son. He was born in Fairfax VA. And they do not supply a copy, but give a COLB in it's place... Likewise I will not be providing you with a copy of his either.

I am not the one with something to prove.. I believe that he was born in Hawaii. Call me what ever you want, I believe the OS too!

And Conan O'Brien had this to say: "First, they said Obama's a socialist. Then they say he's Muslim. Now they're saying he wasn’t even born in this country. It's got me thinking. OK, the guy might not be qualified to be president. But I guess he is qualified to drive a cab in New York."

Mike Huckabee suggesting if you want to protect vital national security secrets from WikiLeaks, just put them in the same vault as Obama's birth certificate.

The "Where's the birth certificate?" billboard campaign has been credited with a large part of the change – from barely half the nation even knowing there was a question over his eligibility about the time the campaign started to nearly 6 in 10 now doubting whether Obama, in fact, occupies the Oval Office legitimately, which appeared in a recent poll.

www.wnd.com...


Hmmmm ................- just a tiny minority of whacky crazy people obviously!

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


The op asked if we wanted to see it...

Ask stupid question get a stupid answer...

If you ask me if I want to see your COLB, or insist on it as a bases for the op, then of course I will take you up on the offer, I will call you out on it.

Get it? Good...

once again the media and tptb have divided the people, AVERAGE americans, have been labeled truthers, in asking for the long form of obama's birth in which everyone in the states has to have just to get a drivers license. Yes the idea is getting old as the short form was rushed in at every approach, but the long form, has been and was immediately under obama shrouded away in secrecy within the first few weeks of Obamas potus. Like usual beleive blindly in the government that loves you and has it allll undercontrol, never mind if ideas, events, and evidence don't add up, Go back to sleep America, its all under control. Like everything else, an event will happen that shall side track the sheeple and this issue shall be brushed under the carpet within 3 weeks or so. I will not hold my breath on this issue as anything of significant importance is always and will be white washed, so much for obama's transparency's