So, where are the jobs?

Tax cuts pass for all



Ok GOP, you got your tax cuts for your wealthy buddies. Where are all the jobs at? Now you don't have the excuse that businesses who are reporting record profits are worried about their tax bill to use, so where are all the jobs? Shouldn't these companies have started hiring already?

Shouldn't we see the unemployed numbers be cut in half?

I say complete failure on the GOP's part. Tax cuts obviously do not equate to job growth and the GOP has failed.

Obviously the entire Republican agenda is a failure as well.

I would venture to say its a bit early..

give it a year and see...if we are not down to 8% or less, then we can grab the torches and pitchforks...

Keep in mind, the most productive epic win time in like the last 50 years was when Clinton was POTUS, and congress was held by the right...the mix may indeed be the best overall for the economy.

Supermajorities scare me..even when its my "side" that holds it all. Just hopefully they work together to find middle ground verses everyone folding arms and not budging

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I have given the GOP twice as much time as they gave the POTUS when he was elected. People were crying "Failure" on January 20th 2009. So, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and so, obviously the entire GOP agenda is a complete and total failure.

They got their tax break for the wealthiest 2% of the country, that should according to them have solved the unemployment problem instantly.

That's what they said employers were waiting on, the assurance that their taxes weren't going to go up, well, taxes for them aren't going to go up, so where are the jobs? Oh, there aren't any still, well, obviously it's a complete and total failure on the GOP's part and obviously a sign that every part of their agenda is a colossal failure as well.

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Just to let you know whatukno-

Not raising taxes, is not a tax cut.

I don't know if you get that, do you?

You might be watching and listening a little too much of the MSM if you believe not letting taxes go up, is a tax cut.

Overseas?
'second line'

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


The GOP has been saying this entire time that employers were worried about their taxes going up and that's why these companies that have been reporting record profits haven't been hiring, well, their taxes aren't going to go up, they got their tax deal, so now that excuse is out the window, and still, the unemployment numbers haven't gone down.

Which means a complete and total failure of all the GOP's agenda.

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
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Just to let you know whatukno-

Not raising taxes, is not a tax cut.

Actually dude, it is

the unfunded tax cuts of the bush era were due to expire..because it was unfunded and temporary

of course, now the socialist top 2% became used to the handfed treats the government was giving...and demanded the GOP protect them by giving them more money.

They demanded this tax cut..it is a tax cut, there is little you can do to argue against that point.
it is what it is...socialism for the rich

Originally posted by whatukno
I have given the GOP twice as much time as they gave the POTUS when he was elected. People were crying "Failure" on January 20th 2009. So, what's good for the goose is good for the gander

True, however, does that mean because the right are a bunch of moaning scumbags, you need to lower yourself to their level?

The left are the reasonable ones...sure, we may want to smack their heads in with a shovel when they act retarded..but, that doesn't mean thats a wise idea.

I have become rather partisan as of late.

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So they passed it for two years.

Yeah, that should help.

Should make for some good theater in 2012 when the Dems will be preaching that they will have to raise taxes again.

Typical.

The jobs are in those abandoned cities in China

The brilliant idea of the politicians:
Let's do the same thing we've been doing because it's bound to change things this time! Now that's some logic for you.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


The GOP said that if they kept the tax cuts for the rich that it would create jobs, it hasn't created jobs, so obviously the entire GOP agenda is a complete failure.

reply to post by whatukno

You don't understand economics !
Iam a painting contractor, my most recent semi wealthy client decided to start doing more repairs on his home because he found out about his coming tax break. There for he will hire me, and money will start to flow.
Get it? It is really simple. Give people more of THEIR money and they will spend. Class over, be here tomm. Same time. Dismissed.

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I think we should get some more dems, erm progressives erm socialists in.

That way we can be just like California, Illinois, New York and your great state of Michigan.

So how is Michigan doing with it's history of wealth redistributing marxists?

Doing well? Maybe they can tax some more and create wealth.

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See, obviously a failure on the part of the GOP's Agenda, your wealthy client should have hired you the milisecond that the tax bill was signed, but he didn't which means that the entire GOP platform is a complete and total failure altogether.

Obviously your wealthy client will hire you for some other reason than his tax rate, because if it was because of this bill, he obviously would have hired you sooner like the Republicans said.

Unemployment is still around 9% even with the Bush Tax Cuts still in place which means that they have failed.

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but, he isn't really getting a tax break, is he?? I mean for the most part, it's just keeping things they way they have been for the past few years....
so, was most of that money flowing into small businesses like yours, or was it flowing somewhere else.....
like, oh, I don't know....risky investments (like the securitized debt of the not so wealthy, underpaid masses) or investments in such places as china or india, ect???

how much money has the government given to those extremely wealthy bankers??? how many small businesses were pinched out of existence because they couldn't get those wealthy bankers to lend them the money they needed to keep their businesses operating?

we don't need the rich investing in our debt!! we don't need them playing at the wall street casino!! we need them for find those people out there who have those fantastic ideas (if there are any out there still!!!) that can bring us a new way of life, similar to the cotton gin, the computer age, the telephone, electricity, mass production and industrialization! america was the one that came out with the latest and the best, and well, we ruled!! but now, the latest and the best is used and the world market is saturated with the crap! and the world is waiting for something new to come along, that will advance it into the next era! while our rich have been investing in debt and playing craps at the wall street casino, the rest of the world is searching for the newest best!! whoever finds it, well, they will be the new rulers!

Cotton Gin ? What the hell are you talking about. There is work. Go get it ! The greatest nation on Gods green earth. Quit complaining like little child. No excuses, if you want to work, go to work. Freekin babies. Ridiculous .

I personally wouldve rather paid the extra tax money than see more money being thrown out the window handed to people that dont need it. You're SUPPOSED to tax the top 2% of the population. Its laughable at best not only how the gop took this situation hostage, but how the democrats and the american people let them do it. These politicians need to learn to grow some balls and stand up for what they believe in.

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I actually have a full time job, but that's not the point, the point is, this tax bill was supposed to instantaneously solve the unemployment problem. And because it didn't drop the unemployment numbers by half the second it was signed into law, it obviously failed and because it failed, the entire GOP agenda is a failure.

Originally posted by Xzorter
Cotton Gin ? What the hell are you talking about. There is work. Go get it ! The greatest nation on Gods green earth. Quit complaining like little child. No excuses, if you want to work, go to work. Freekin babies. Ridiculous .

You obviously have never been to Michigan, called a 1-800 number or purchased ...well anything in the past 30 years have you? Let me ask you something, do you think the good ol' USA is the best nation on earth because thats what you were told your whole life or do you trulely believe that a country that would rather pass a 'dream act' to educate illegal immigrants over American citizens is the right idea? Do you enjoy watching your family sexually assaulted by the TSA? Watching college tuition rise while jobs for graduates get shipped to third world or communist nations? Do you enjoy looking at the past when we were number one in everything from education to technology to manufacturing and how we're now at the bottom in the world in almost every category imaginable?

No sir, America WAS the greatest nation on this earth. Now they just tell your kids that every morning after they force them to sing the national anthem with the word "GOD" removed. Think about that as you wish your family and friends "happy holidays" because its not politically correct to say merry #ing christmas anymore.

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Again. You don't understand economics. Why would you say instantaneously ? Taking peoples money with taxes is just one small way the liberal agenda wants to continue controlling people with entitlement mentality. Give people their money back ! Just one way to continue the turn towards a healthy economy.very simple ! Really it is.