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G. Edward Griffin talks about new CHEMTRAIL film, plus more evidental proof that CHEMTRAIL's are TO

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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 06:41 PM
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Hi all, I know we have all been through this so many times, but have you guys and girls seen as much evidence as this.

G. Edward Griffin talks about new CHEMTRAIL film

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

UNITED STATES PATENT: 6315213 PDF
Link: www.sciechimiche.org...

1990 Chemtrail Document US patent 6315213

www.rense.com...


The air we breathe is laden with asbestos-sized synthetic fibers and toxic metals, including barium salts, aluminum, and reportedly, radioactive thorium.9 These materials act as electrolytes to enhance conductivity of military radar and radio waves.10 Poisonous on par with arsenic and a proven suppressant of the human immune system,11 atmospheric barium weakens human muscles, including those of the heart.12 Inhaled aluminum goes directly to the brain and medical specialists confirm that it causes oxidative stress within brain tissue, leading to formation of Alzheimer's like neurofibrillary tangles.13 Radioactive thorium is known to cause leukemia and other cancers.14



What we can,t see is equally dangerous. The ionosphere, the earth and its inhabitants are continually bombarded with high frequency microwaves used to manipulate the charged atmosphere for weather modification, information gathering and for tectonic (earthquake-producing) weaponry.


Strange Chinese Earthquakes/ Possibly HAARP (High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program)

Weird colors in sky before Chinese earthquake
Link: www.glumbert.com...

The Official Alaskan Homepage, Link: www.haarp.alaska.edu...

US Patent Publication (Source: USPTO). Publication No. US 5174498


Pure water can be supercooled to temperatures of -20.degree. C. to -40.degree. C. Promotion of ice nucleation, necessary for rainfall, has been exploited in the induced precipitation of rain by silver iodide seeded in clouds. Silver iodide isused today as an artificial rain nucleating system. It increases ice nucleation temperature by about 5.degree. C., resulting in an increase of about 20% of the precipitation in a given region.

There is a continuous search for better materials that can be used as cloud seeding agents. Some crystalline organic substances (Parungo et al., J. Atmos. Sci, 24: 274 (1967) and certain bacteria (Levin et al., J. Climate and Appl. Meteorology,26: 1188 (1987) were found to nucleate ice efficiently as silver iodide.


Link: www.patentgenius.com...

Example of a real ice-storm, possible man-made.
Link: deathby1000papercuts.com...

The story is located at this link. Headtitle, Deadly Blizzards and Ice Storms:
Link: deathby1000papercuts.com...

One last video for now, Pilot films a (Chemtrail) chemical plane from his cockpit: air to air:
Link: www.youtube.com...

Now I’l let you decide..



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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Excellent thread, DClairvoyant. G. Edward Griffin is one of the best. I've been a fan ever since I read The Creature From Jekyll Island, which as Ron Paul says, "is a must-read for every American."

I'm sure the "chemtrails don't exist" professional debunkers will be here soon.


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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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Headtitle: Atmospheric Geoengineering: Weather Manipulation, Contrails and Chemtrails
A Review of the "Case Orange" report

Link: www.globalresearch.ca...



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Headtitle: Chemtrails- a threat to health.

Link: forums.ukcolumn.org...

2nd Link: www.greatdreams.com...

Headtitle: Germany becomes the First Country to admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations


“We can staTe with a 97% certainty that we have on our hands chemical trails (chemtrails) comprised by fine dust containing polymers and metals, used to disrupt radar signals.”

“This is their main purpose, but I was surprised that this artificial cloud was so wide-spread. The radar images are stunning considering the needed tons of dispersed elements -- although, the federal army claims that only small amounts of material were propagated. The military heads claim that the substances used are not harmful.”
“In the United States of America there are protest after protest for many years now, against these military operations and now people are mobilising in Germany as well. Per example JOHANNES REMMEL of the Greens.

“It's obvious that enormous regions are being polluted with clandestine actions, but all of this has to be made public. The government must provide explanations to the unsuspecting population.”



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 07:20 PM
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Firm believer of the chemtrails, looks like a good vid. too bad th epublic does not wake up to the crap that is going on.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by MyStrawMan
Firm believer of the chemtrails, looks like a good vid. too bad th epublic does not wake up to the crap that is going on.


I have faith, they will



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 07:56 PM
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Patent No. 6315213 is a cloud seeding patent. No one denies cloud seeding is carried out and it has nothing to do with "chemtrails".

Patent No. 5174498 is a cloud seeding patent. No one denies cloud seeding is carried out and it has nothing to do with "chemtrails".

The youtube video "Pilot films a (Chemtrail) chemical plane" shows normal contrails.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The "Germany" article is talking about chaff used for radar countermeasures. It has nothing to do with "chemtrails" and it is hardly "clandestine".
www.crh.noaa.gov...


I'm sure you read the "Case Orange" file in it's entirety. After all, you wouldn't just take someones word for what it says, right? This is pretty funny:

Although officially denied by government sources many countries performed tests for "cloud seeding" to either generate precipitation where it was needed or to prevent precipitation where it is unwanted. At this moment only the Russian and Chinese governments admit that they use particulate matter in order to manipulated weather patterns.

www.belfort-group.eu...

Really? Cloud seeding is a secret?
www.nawcinc.com...
sciencedude.ocregister.com...
www.hcountryrcd.org...
www.warwickhughes.com...
www.globalpost.com...

Big secret. Great research, Case Orange dudes. Just one of the piece of nonsense in that "work".

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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Even though your post was removed, you were exactly right.

Like moths to light...



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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This one is a bit older, but I ran across this: Chemtrails the Great Dying

www.rumormillnews.com...

Great Thread. But one thing I can't help but think, is with the amount of information and articles, what is the reason behind the disclosure of it?

I always feel like there is a big manipulation going on, no matter what we think, when trails to what is going on under the radar occur, and its widely published, what is the agenda behind leaking this out?

But we're being poisoned on a very large scale, water, food, air. Not to mention all the depleted uranium.
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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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You have it backwards.
I'm bringing a glimmer of light to a room darkened by ignorance.

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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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No, actually your not. There is a link on youtube from a man from the U.S who lives in a trailer van as his home is shown a lot in his video's and that he made a couple of these video's and took it to his local representative to challenge them.

And the next thing you'll ask is where is this link, look it up on youtube, I have viewed the video's, they were made around April of 2009 so they shouldn't be that hard to find, though I haven't got the 'time' as it's 02:23am here in the UK and I gotta be up for 06:45 am so excuse my ignorance for finding those video's, I'm very tired and need my beauty-sleep, lol.

Either way your comment's count as much as everybody else here. So thankyou for your comment's/opinions.
edit on 7-10-2010 by DClairvoyant because: Typo - Tiredness



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:21 PM
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DClairvoyant.....

Fortunately, there is no such thing as a "chemtrail".

Unfortunately, some people keep ignoring scientific evidence & logical thinking, thereby unnecessarily scaring people who are susceptible to such ideas.

Please refer to the following threads:

Chemtrails? Need help?

Contrail Chemtrail Research Thread

The Chemtrail Hoax

Are these proof of Chemtrails or Contrails?

Chemtrail believers - I challenge you to debunk contrail science

Contrails: Understanding why they aren’t chemtrails

The Chemtrail Myth

This is not a chemtrail! Atmospheric Phenomenon explained

Why the Chemtrail Conspiracy is Implausible & Meteorologically Inaccurate

The Astounding Effect Of Contrails On Climate

How To Forecast Using Clouds Part 1

You might also find this interesting.



The term "chemtrail" was first introduced by journalist, William Thomas, in 1997.


I have already posted information pertaining to the origin of the “chemtrail” myth, including:

Origin of “Chemtrail” Delusion

In addition to the ubiquitous, unequivocal scientific evidence that “chemtrails” do not exist, there is also compelling historical evidence demonstrating the ”chemtrail myth started at 1 specific point in time, that point in time being January 7 1999.

On January 7 1999, an interview conducted on the Art Bell Show.

Please look at this…..


WILLIAM THOMAS ON ART BELL AS EMERGENCY ROOMS OVERFLOW ACROSS USA


January 7 1999

William Thomas makes his first of eight appearance on Art Bell's “Coast to Coast” radio show with news of something he calls “chemtrails”.

The Philadelphia Daily News reports that Emergency Room patients were overflowing into the hallways at West Jersey Hospital in Berlin, New Jersey “as a wave of respiratory illnesses swept the area.”


The beginning of the “chemtrail” myth on Art Bell Coast To Coast AM radio show.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not


edit on 7-10-2010 by Maybe...maybe not because: Format



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by DClairvoyant
 


DClairvoyant.....

Fortunately, there is no such thing as a "chemtrail".

Unfortunately, some people keep ignoring scientific evidence & logical thinking, thereby unnecessarily scaring people who are susceptible to such ideas.

Please refer to the following threads:

Chemtrails? Need help?

Contrail Chemtrail Research Thread

The Chemtrail Hoax

Are these proof of Chemtrails or Contrails?

Chemtrail believers - I challenge you to debunk contrail science

Contrails: Understanding why they aren’t chemtrails

The Chemtrail Myth

This is not a chemtrail! Atmospheric Phenomenon explained

Why the Chemtrail Conspiracy is Implausible & Meteorologically Inaccurate

The Astounding Effect Of Contrails On Climate

How To Forecast Using Clouds Part 1

You might also find this interesting.



The term "chemtrail" was first introduced by journalist, William Thomas, in 1997.


I have already posted information pertaining to the origin of the “chemtrail” myth, including:

Origin of “Chemtrail” Delusion

In addition to the ubiquitous, unequivocal scientific evidence that “chemtrails” do not exist, there is also compelling historical evidence demonstrating the ”chemtrail myth started at 1 specific point in time, that point in time being January 7 1999.

On January 7 1999, an interview conducted on the Art Bell Show.

Please look at this…..


WILLIAM THOMAS ON ART BELL AS EMERGENCY ROOMS OVERFLOW ACROSS USA


January 7 1999

William Thomas makes his first of eight appearance on Art Bell's “Coast to Coast” radio show with news of something he calls “chemtrails”.

The Philadelphia Daily News reports that Emergency Room patients were overflowing into the hallways at West Jersey Hospital in Berlin, New Jersey “as a wave of respiratory illnesses swept the area.”


The beginning of the “chemtrail” myth on Art Bell Coast To Coast AM radio show.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not


edit on 7-10-2010 by Maybe...maybe not because: Format



First off Maybe…maybe not all the threads you posted have 404 errors on them and which may mean they
dont exist or they have been deleted that includes that one link you have posted.




Fortunately, there is no such thing as a "chemtrail".


How long are you going to keep saying that towards yourself?



Unfortunately, some people keep ignoring scientific evidence & logical thinking, thereby unnecessarily scaring people who are susceptible to such ideas.


I think your the one whose ignoring scientific evidence & real logical thinking on this matter

chemtrail causing people being sick
www.rense.com...


Sorry but in my view your the one whose ignoring scientific evidence of chemtrails.
You have been spamming those same threads each time a person screams chemtrail.



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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:15 PM
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And by unnecessarily quoting his entire post you contribute to that "spamming", don't you?

Please provide "scientific evidence" that "chemtrails" exist. The letters in the Rense link provide no evidence, just misguided opinions.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
Please provide "scientific evidence" that "chemtrails" exist.

Please provide a pre-1998 photo, video, film or TV program that shows your "persistent contrails." There should be millions of examples, right?

And please, no photos of WW II piston-engine aircraft belching plumes of particulates.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:32 PM
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Agent_USA_Supporter…..


First off Maybe…maybe not all the threads you posted have 404 errors on them and which may mean they
dont exist or they have been deleted that includes that one link you have posted


I apologise for that.

At first glance, I can’t see what I’ve done wrong. I will look at that again with a view to fixing those links.



How long are you going to keep saying that towards yourself?


My commentary stating there is no such thing as a “chemtrail” is not stated to myself. It is stated to others as an unequivocal, incontrovertible fact.


I think your the one whose ignoring scientific evidence & real logical thinking on this matter
chemtrail causing people being sick
www.rense.com...


As per very long precedent, Rense is renowned for promoting incorrect, nonvalidated poorly sourced information.


Sorry but in my view your the one whose ignoring scientific evidence of chemtrails.


I confirm again there is no such thing as a “chemtrail”.


You have been spamming those same threads each time a person screams chemtrail.


My information is founded on science & fact.

There is no such thing as a “chemtrail”.

I will repair those links so that you may review same.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:40 PM
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Plumes of particulates? Funny how the "particulates" only appear when the aircraft reach a high enough altitude. Odd how they appear and disappear. Are they shutting off all four engines?


Here's a cloud atlas from 1972.
picasaweb.google.com...#

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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:45 PM
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Instead of posting a YouTube of a WW II piston-engine bomber, wouldn't it have been easier to say, "there are no pre-1998 photos, videos or films of "persistent contrails?"



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 11:47 PM
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Why would I lie? There are.
There are also very many accounts of them.

From 1919:

The second German sighting occurred on May 9, 1919, when a pilot flying over Berlin at about 26,000 feet noticed the generation of a cloud stream that extended for about forty miles behind his plane. This stream eventually spread out to form a cloud layer that was about 3,000 feet thick. The pilot saw a similar phenomenon two days later.
www.accessmylibrary.com...

From 1940:

A few months later I witnessed the Battle of Britain taking place over my head in the July, August and September 1940. Being in SE London we had a grandstand view of the titanic struggle going on day aftr day with the intricate patterns of the contrails the most evident witness to the dog fights taking place.
www.bbc.co.uk... Short contrails do not produce intricate patterns.

1944:

So an airplane at great heights leaves behind it, stretching for endless miles, a visible "wake" composed of ice particles so tiny that they do not fall as snow but remain suspended in the air.
Source

From 1947:

Photo taken by Jerry Cole, combat aerial photographer in the 390th Bomb Group at Framlingham Air Base in England. He is looking for a print from the original negative he shot around January 1944 or before. It shows contrails of P-47's crossing each other in the background and a B-17 in the foreground.


scoutbird.tripod.com...


From 1968:

Daily, for example, hundreds of jet planes crisscross the nation or great parts of it, often leaving fluffy contrails of water vapor, manmade clouds, as a signature of their passage.

Some contrails soon dissapate. Others turn into or are soon followed by high cirruse clouds that can and do influence the earth's heat balance with the sun.

news.google.com...,2068835&dq=contrails+cirrus&hl=en





From 1970:

The spreading out of jet contrails into extensive cirrus sheets is a familiar sight. Often, when persistent conditions exist from 25,000 to 40,000ft, several long contrails increase in number and gradually merge into an almost solid interlaced sheet.

journals.ametsoc.org...


Henry Wadsworth Hinkle, hired man down on the farm with Uncle Clarence and Aunt Martha, looked skyward a few days ago and was awed by the multiplicity of "vapor trails," as he called them. That's the old name. Now they are called contrails-short for condensation trails-resulting from the condensation of heat flowing from high-flying jet engines.

Source


A 43-year-old novice sailor said today that he followed jet contrails over the Atlantic to help him navigate after his sextant was smashed six days out of Pymouth, England.
Source He didn't follow jets, he followed contrails. You can't follow a short contrail.

1972:

Then there is the matter of cloudiness. The familiar contrails often left by high-flying planes might persist for a long time under some conditions.
Source


From 1973:

Often, after several clear days, high flying jets begin leaving condensation trails in the sky. These "contrails" are the result of the condensation of water vapor that accompanies engine combustion at high altitudes.
Source


He occasionally looked out the window at the earth and noted geographical locations. "We're coming over Europe and I've never seen so many jet plane contrails in my life," he reported
Source


Shore was no naïf; he recognized the irony of many of his images. One of the cleverest is "U.S. 97, South of Klamath Falls, Oregon, July 21, 1973," which depicts a desolate spot of road where a billboard displays a snowcapped-mountain scene — against actual mountains in the distance. The billboard image seems to emerge from the land itself. Along with a cattle gate and a sky with blown-out contrails, the billboard is a tired and shabby advertisement for America itself.
www.pitch.com... Contrails have to be around for a while to be "blown-out".
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