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Originally posted by HimWhoHathAnEar
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
No it works for PharmaCorp, that's why you're upset.
Of course that's all predicated on the assumption that you're even a doctor. For all anyone here knows you're a dude with a beer in his hand who got laid off from his day job. You seem to have alot of time on your hands to be on ATS all day. Nuff said.
As I said, the precedent WOULD be set IF your crazy ideas were brought to reality. What part of that do you not grasp?
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
... Most of my patients are under-insured or uninsured, so most of the scripts I write are generics. Pharma gets pretty much nothing for that, considering generic manufacture is outsourced to smaller companies now. ...
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by oniongrass
Compared to Pharma corporations? Yes, it is very small.
[edit on 9/1/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
Originally posted by LAinhabitant
ANYONE ANYWHERE could pass the flu on to someone else.
The difference being, people in the hospital are there seeking treatment, which usually means their case is already fairly severe.
No one seeks medical treatment at the grocery store, the ballpark, the mall, or any place like that. As such, there is no assumption that universal precautions are being taken in those places. The hospital is a special circumstance, where EVERY employee (janitors, nurses, doctors, file clerks, EVERYONE) is expected to understand and participate in infection control. If this is too hard of a task for someone, they shouldn't be working in patient care centers. It's as simple as that.
Who said anything about "guinea pigs"? That suggests I'm making them victims of an experiment. No one is suggesting anything of the sort. Flu vaccine is proven to reduce the number of nosocomial infection.
Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn
Could you please attach a link to data supporting this claim?
I have seen more doctors handle charts and run from one patient's room to another, touching patient's bedding, removing dressings and not once washing their hands or wearing gloves.
So, in my experience it is the doctors that are more lax in the utilization of universal and infection precaution. In fact the hospital where I work is inundated with cameras and this has been proven as fact by observation. The percentage of adherence to proper hand-washing and universal precautions were 60% for doctors and 93% for nurses.
You seem to be one of those doctors that have a disdain for nurses. I am sure that God complex they issued with your license makes you think that you have the right to control the lives of others.
I am sure your patients are secure in the fact that you will be there to provide your excellence in care when all those ignorant, disease ridden nurses that you have saved them from have been thrown out of the hospitals. Nurse; who needs them?
Vaccine Caused “Spanish Flu” Epidemic
Medical historians have finally come to the reluctant conclusion that the great flu “epidemic” of 1918 was solely attributable to the widespread use of vaccines. It was the first war in which vaccination was compulsory for all servicemen. The Boston Herald reported that forty-seven soldiers had been killed by vaccination in one month. As a result, the military hospitals were filled, not with wounded combat casualties, but with casualties of the vaccine. The epidemic was called “the Spanish Influenza,” a deliberately misleading appellation, which was intended to conceal its origin. This flu epidemic claimed twenty million victims; those who survived it were the ones who had refused the vaccine.
The HIV tests react with many different diseases and conditions, and diagnose no single disease or condition. Here we see that the tests return a “positive” result in persons who have received flu vaccinations.
Originally posted by Danbones
The HIV tests react with many different diseases and conditions, and diagnose no single disease or condition. Here we see that the tests return a “positive” result in persons who have received flu vaccinations.
reducetheburden.org...
Trust something that makes a person test positive for aids...?
I dunno
[edit on 2-9-2010 by Danbones]
Frist and Hastert Let Vaccine Industry Write Its Own Multi-Billion Dollar Giveaway
Last December, Senate Majority Leader Bill First (R-TN) and House Speaker Dennis Hastert inserted a provision in the Defense Appropriations bill that granted vaccine manufactures near-total immunity for injuries or deaths (even in cases of “gross negligence”) caused by their drugs during a viral pandemic, such as an outbreak of the avian flu. The legislation was “worth billions of dollars” to a small group of drug makers.
The provision was inserted in the dead of the night, after House and Senate conferees had agreed the provision would not be included in the bill. According to Roll Call, the brazen move was completely unprecedented.
IF you can't point out where I called all nurses ignorant, disease-ridden, or useless, I would appreciate either an apology, or for you to edit your post accordingly. Thanks.
Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn
reply to post by adjensen
If you are concerned that a healthcare worker may give you the flu because they have chosen not to risk their health and lives by taking a toxin ridden, greed manufactured product then I suggest that you remain locked inside you home until the flu season is over. By the way if you have children make sure that you keep them inside with you.
You stand a better chance of getting the flu from a child, especially one of preschool age than a healthcare worker. Also don't forget, movie, theaters, mass transit, your place of work and yep even the supermarket.
I am a healthcare worker. I have been a healthcare worker for over 40 years. I have not had a flu vaccine. I have not had the flu since college. I think that too many people are buying into the hype and I think it is down right ridiculous for you or anyone else to force anyone to be injected with a poison just because it will make "you" feel better.