7,000 US Troops to Costa Rica and 46 US Warships?

Originally posted by mf_luder

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
46 war ships to "fight drug trafficking" LOL./..

How damn gullible does the US military think the world is?

Yeah, because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.

Grow up.

Focus on the politicians not us.

Also, we get ordered to move a smidgen of our military power down there and some of the stuff you guys are coming up with as to why really has me in tears. Really.

God I love this site.

Keep the conspiracy theories coming....

[edit on 8-7-2010 by mf_luder]

Guess the Mods removed my post..

I didn't mean it like that, bud,.. I got many friends in the Canadian Military, and 2 in the American... When I said US military, I meant in general like the OBama administration, Generals and the Pentagon, etc...

Sort of like when they say "Israel refuses to apologize", it's not as if everyone in Israel was for the attack on the flotilla. Mass media does this all the time.

[edit on 8-7-2010 by CanadianDream420]

Sounds like a distraction.

The amount of warships and stationed soldiers mentioned here within this post,- doesn't mount up to all the posts' about warships and soldiers in mounted for Iran

Are we going down to help the or train the Costa Rican military

Lets see we will out number the Costa Rican military.

Oh that right costa rica has no military

why send a convoy of 46 warships to fight off drug cartels. YOU DON'T. U.S WARSHIPS, 46. WHAT,

i just recieved a e-mail from my ex-pat buddy down there. he said they've known about it for a few weeks, and the marines are gunna' crack down on their 'communities' and 'stronghold'. he says there's a few thousand of them dug in and ready for a fight. says the drug thing is just a cover, Costa Rica is small time compared to many other countries.

There is not going to be any convoy of 46 war ship that is BS.

There will be small groups of 4 to 5 ships rotating through the area on both coast. for a month or two at a time.
They will do training and drug intervention while they are down there. as one group rotates down another group will return to the US.
With the water of the northern gulf of Mexico restricted due to the oil spill they can not train there.
There are a number of small cargo and fishing boat down there that never seam to transport enough cargo or even carry fishing gear but always have the money to pay for fuel.
That is the target, the DEA has agents in ever port down there and have been watching these ships for years.

"there's a few thousand of them dug in and ready for a fight" Who drug runners and gun runners,???? what is your ex-pat buddy a drug runner hiding out from the US authorities. or ""communities' and 'stronghold""does he work for the cartels.??????
I know its not the Costa Rican military.

I have been to Costa Rica, I have friends that run a gold mine down there.
They have some very nice bars down there with very nice bar girls that remind me of Olongapo PI

[edit on 9-7-2010 by ANNED]

finally a bit of reality...thats my take on this news too buddy...
a few training missions and some interdiction practice for theboys...
There is usually visits like this by many navoes all over the world.....
teh fact that theyll be going after drug runners is just make work for the troops and sailors to keep them sharp while they wait to go into venezuela over the beach...sure,,, the troops required to take on Chavez would be like fifty to a hundred thousand at least.
Probably more as they would be the attacking force, and that requires a three to one advantage or so.....(im sure Chavez has troops enough to fend the US marines off......
Like the man says, theyll be going down there in smaller units than a forty ship flotilla...
frigates are the perfect patrol vessel for such exercises...
they are certainly not battleships, rather they are probably classed as one of the smallest ships of the line, as well as being mostly designed for escort and anti sub warfare....like screening a carrier etc...
they are fast, and manouverable,and carry enough punch to take on the average gun or dope runner crafts.i doubt they have much anti missle nissles, and chavez doesnt have many missles that could reach the states anyways....
you would need aegis cruisers for missle defence.
there would be enough room for a marine boarding party contingent if it was felt nessessary(though they could provide their own boarding parties and have done so in the past.)
All in all id say this was sensationalised quite a bit for effect, but sorcha wouldnt stoop so low you say?
most of her stuff is similarly presented...and as explosively written as the mundane can be.....

news.yahoo.com...

How Guatemala nearly went 'narco'

GUATEMALA CITY — For a 17-day period that ended last month, Guatemala seemed to be falling under the direct control of suspected mobsters. A lawyer leading a posse of unsavory characters became the attorney general and started dismantling the state's legal apparatus.

Central America's most populous country teetered on the edge of "going narco."

A rugged coffee-growing nation of 13.5 million people, some 40 percent of them disenfranchised Mayan Indians, Guatemala has largely been off the world's radar screen. But as U.S. anti-narcotics aid poured into Mexico and Colombia , bad guys flooded the region in between.

Guatemala became a prime destination. Its democracy is fragile, and while institutions of state appear to function, corruption is rampant.

ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com...

Thursday, July 01, 2010
Guatemala: Experienced advocate against organized crime to head UN-backed crime probe in Guatemala
UN - A renowned Costa Rican advocate against organized crime has been chosen as the next head of the United Nations-backed commission charged with dismantling illegal armed groups and tackling impunity in Guatemala.

A UN spokesperson announced today that Francisco Dall’Anese Ruiz, the current Attorney-General of Costa Rica, will succeed Carlos Castresana at the International Commission against Impunity in Guatemala (known as CICIG).

Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who made the appointment, thanked Mr. Castresana – who resigned earlier this month – for his “excellent work” heading CICIG since its inception two and a half years ago.

“The achievements of CICIG during that period have been praised by Guatemalan authorities, civil society and the international community alike,” Mr. Ban said.

Since becoming Costa Rican Attorney-General in 2003, Mr. Dall’Anese has waged campaigns against narco-trafficking and organized crime, led major investigations against corruption and helped introduce prominent legislation against organized crime.

Seems theres alot going on with Costa Rica when it comes to organized crime and it even goes into Guatemala.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! SERIOUSLY?

War ships to fight drug cartels in Costa Rica?????

Dude what about the drug cartels killing and kidnapping U.S. Civilians along the Texas and Mexican border at El Paso y Ciudad Juarez?

They are the ones bringing the coc aine and meth that cause crime in violence in our streets the create gang warfare as well.

This is freaking RE-DIC-U-LOUS. It's ludicrous.

Costa Rica doesn't affect our drug trade here. And since when does the U.S. government care about the drugs. I thought they only used our troops for oil.

They can send the troops home they got Steven Seagal to take care of the problem.

underthesuncostarica.com...

Actor Steven Seagal Advising Top Cops In Costa Rica?
5 June 2010
You know Costa Rica is in trouble and the nation’s top cops are out of ways of curbing growing violence and insecurity in the country, when they turn to “Hollywood”, in the form of actor Steven Seagal, for help. Of is it just media hype?

Nothing against Mr. Seagal, he is a fine actor, a skilled martial artists on film, in addition to being a writer and producer, he is also a Reserve Deputy Chief of the Sheriff’s Office in the community of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.

So, what does Mr Seagal know about Costa Rica’s problems? And does the new ministro de Seguridad (Security Minister), José María Tijerino, the same minister who the cops defied his call to hit the streets, really think that by going Hollywood the country’s insecurity will be over as the credits roll on the screen?
?

[post by mf_luder

because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.

That is the attitude that gives reason to logical intellectuals to despise militarism. The arrogance of the statement, "because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.", is exactly why we should not be allowed to go "wherever we damn well please." This is imperialism, or domination, without the logic or wisdom of judging other cultures on this Planet Earth without knowing the culture. How can you judge another culture without knowing all of the wisdom?


[edit on 9-7-2010 by problemsolvr]

This has been going on for years, not of this magnitude, but the U.S. Military has been involved with helping stop drug trafficing in those waters for a while. Anyone remember operation Night Hawk? It was ran by the Air Force in the late 90's. I remember it, I was there. It was on a small island by Venezuela called Curacao. It was more of a joint op. Navy, Marines, DEA. The Air Force had F-16's over there. The Navy had a few ships, and it was a party. Crazy per diem though, I sure banked on that one, beautiful area might I add.

Good post by the way OP, for sure s&f!!! this stuff needs to be brought to light

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by mf_luder

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
46 war ships to "fight drug trafficking" LOL./..

How damn gullible does the US military think the world is?

Yeah, because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.

Grow up.

Focus on the politicians not us.

Also, we get ordered to move a smidgen of our military power down there and some of the stuff you guys are coming up with as to why really has me in tears. Really.

God I love this site.

Keep the conspiracy theories coming....

[edit on 8-7-2010 by mf_luder]

heres one for ya there was a massive gulf oil spill and a major gm crop failure at the same time then no food for every one whos your closest neighbour with lots of food?


this show of force will be a "hey buddy remember me" if you guys have a catostrofic gm wheat failure and the gulf is not fished how ya gunna feed your families

this is no joke my freinds think that america must accept help from everybody now or they will destroy the oceans for all nations

food wars ensue culling the population through starvation

one of the bad ways to go slow and lingering

your policies and polititions block help?

WTF?

Ok serious note. When United States has a crop failure or bad season the citizens of USA do not suffer so much other then unleashing a few more bucks for the same grocery list. There is plenty of land to self sustain, you should be worried about the amssive EXPORT that we do as that will take a brutal beating and people in OTHER countries will starve. Just think about the population around 300 million living on 3.79 million square miles (9.83 million km2). or 2425600000 Acres total which gives each person around 8 acres, EACH person not EACH family. a family can sustain on an acre (well some of these families are big)

The only problem I see that the POTUS and his followers have with the people is the amount of firearms that float around which only the "legal" ones are accounted for, not to mention the millions of illegal acquired. There is easily 1 gun per person in USA. That is something to consider when you want to "starve" people out.

As I have said before you take away the means to survive from most (which is pure ignorance to what is around us what we can grow) and they will come looking for your assets. give them a gun and instincts WILL take over.

back on topic - I am not sure why we are moving this amount of naval assets; however, with all the strange things happening around the world, nobody here can assure much of anything. Maybe the aliens that are supposed to land two days from now will be in Costa Rica and we are going to greet them with not only a gun salute, but a naval salute!

Originally posted by problemsolvr
[post by mf_luder

 

because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.

That is the attitude that gives reason to logical intellectuals to despise militarism. The arrogance of the statement, "because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.", is exactly why we should not be allowed to go "wherever we damn well please." This is imperialism, or domination, without the logic or wisdom of judging other cultures on this Planet Earth without knowing the culture. How can you judge another culture without knowing all of the wisdom?


[edit on 9-7-2010 by problemsolvr]

Being military myself this is humorous, you call it militarism, imperialism,domanation. I call it sarcasm.

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
46 war ships to "fight drug trafficking" LOL./..

How damn gullible does the US military think the world is?

The Military answers to the civilian leadership IE. Executive branch IE. the President (contrary to popular belief that's how things work here, I've served, I know). So the more appropriate question would be...?

Originally posted by problemsolvr
[post by mf_luder

 

because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.

That is the attitude that gives reason to logical intellectuals to despise militarism. The arrogance of the statement, "because we in the military obviously make the decision to move ourselves wherever we damn well please.", is exactly why we should not be allowed to go "wherever we damn well please." This is imperialism, or domination, without the logic or wisdom of judging other cultures on this Planet Earth without knowing the culture. How can you judge another culture without knowing all of the wisdom?


[edit on 9-7-2010 by problemsolvr]

The military doesn't wipe it's own ass without the executive branch's permission and Congress's defense budget outlining how many wipes per quarter per branch.

The military DOES NOT act on it's own. It receives orders from civilian commanders. That's how it works. Military and civilian counterparts give the powers that be intel, tptb make the decision and the military does the job, based on the rules set out by tptb (ROE, we would be done with two wars if our ROE wasn't skewed and changing every 2 days)

You're response is the classic pants 2 sizes too tight or what I like to call "panties in a wad" response. Take a valium,or meditate or what ever you need to do to "enhance your calm".

[edit on 9-7-2010 by brutalsun]

Originally posted by CUin2013?
There are reports that this is being done to move our Navy out of the GOM as a way to protect our ships from a catastrophe.

Tsunami? Deadly gas? Anyone?

Interesting theory. Have we really gotten like the fictional drama in movies and become so sinister? I hope not.

reply to post by texastig

Uh huh. Didn't forget that. And so are India and Russia. And don't forget the natural gas platform disaster that occurred off Venezuela a while back either.

reply to post by Eavel


That's what I called it too!


[edit on 7/9/2010 by ~Lucidity]

haha deny ignorance eh?

It's making me cringe reading so many posts from people who obviously know nothing about Costa Rica, except for the poster a few posts up.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


No, it's going down to Paraguay..'orrible Bush Jr. Own a couple of hundred thousand acres down there.

Probably his own private army.

I think this deployment is a connection to Iran who claimed that southamerica will be on their hand when it comes to war.

I also calculated that troops will be in place before sunday the 11th of juli when there is a new moon and thus very dark (perfect for night strikes).

Obama doesn't want brazil to aid iran in making their nukes.
The following three articles might give you an idea of my perception.

laht.com...
noliesradio.org...
www.reuters.com...

pura vida!-i have a little home on a couple acres in costa-
the head of the police forces is a graduate of the school of the americas-
he's experienced in phony drug wars. for real drug wars go to columbia.
where the usa has lots of bases.
-if you want to park warships- the arais brothers will gladly rent you some space.
or if you want to put in a toxic goldmine in an ecologically fragile spot-
one recently slid down a hill and spewed poison all over.
i assume they are passing thru to venezuela. honduras got toppled last year..
But define "warship"-a swift boat? pt boat?-
because 46 warships will use up alot of parking spaces
and the arais brothers rent by the square foot.