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Originally posted by moonleaf
reply to post by Jay-morris
I am a Christian and I do not hate anyone. I believe that homosexuality is a sin, but I do not go around judging people for what they do behind closed doors. That is not MY place! I do not believe that GOD hates gays anymore than I believe he hates all of us sinners. GOD is love. I accept everyone. I don't go around bashing people for their beliefs and it really bothers me that everyone on here is so quick to bash Christians.
The only thing that I have a problem with and (what I think Donkey Dean is saying about the media) is that the media portrays that anything goes and that it is sexy to be with both sexes. For impressionable young kids that is a bad thing. If you believe that watching smoking being portrayed as cool on tv can lead to children smoking, then you may understand where I am going with this. Its like "free love" all over again but this time with both sexes.
I know 12 - 13 year old girls that make out with other girls to impress boys. Anything that promotes promiscuity is a bad thing in my opinion. These girls aren't "going both ways" because that is "who they are". They are doing it to look cool. If you do not realize that this is going on, then you really need to open your eyes and read up on the subject.
You should also learn a thing about tolerance. I am tolerant of others beliefs but it seems like tolerance is thrown out the window when Chrsitians post on this site. No one can bash other religions or lifestyles on here without having their posts removed but you can say whatever you want about Christians and Christianity and it is totatlly acceptable. To me that is just sad.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
Originally posted by wayno
reply to post by Donkey_Dean
That said I feel I have an obligation to ensure my children do not think it’s ok to be gay just for the hell of it.
As if that was possible.
Shows your basic lack of understanding of what it is to be gay. No one is gay "for the hell of it". Truth is though, that lots of people do swing both ways, not for the hell of it, but because that is the way they are; nothing more, nothing less.
No one is gay for the hell of it huh? I heard that in Oklahoma the public school system had to rethink how they were presenting homosexuality. All over the state girls were banned from going to the bathroom at the same time due to sexual activity. I have gay family members by the way, my cousin who was my best friend growing up is a lesbian. That led to many gay friends over the years. I don’t care at all whatcha do, but if I can help it my children will raise families and bring many grandchildren into this world. If they do decide to live a gay lifestyle then I will be supportive of that.
What exactly did I say that set you off anyhow? That I don’t want my children to be gay just for the hell of it? Honestly I wouldn’t care so much if my daughter was gay, but my sons. Not if I can help it! I’m sorry if this has somehow made you feel dejected. I am not your father after all, I am sure he loves the fact that you are gay.
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Donkey_Dean]
Originally posted by Stormwind™
Originally posted by Jay-morris
Originally posted by Stormwind™
reply to post by Donkey_Dean
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
I personally worry that my children...
Awful isnt it. I read what he wrote and inside I am cringing. Then I think omg how far have we come and still someone like this is able to get a job, earn money, find someone who is interested enough to produce a life with him, and he is obviously allowed to vote and I pity him, his kids, his poor wife and his country. Because sadly he is in no way alone. And if his kids grow up smart they will end up probably hating him for his views because when they interact with other, much more enlightened people, they will look at his views and pity him also. Otherwise his genetic line produces nothing more than a moral cul-de-sac.
Personally that statement is a worry, on the other hand at least refuse collection will be safe for another generation.
I worry about his children too. Its parents like this who children end up killing themselves because mummy and daddy say that being gay is a sin. They put there faith (not real) in front of there own children. Worse parents in the world are religious parents!
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Stormwind™]
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Stormwind™]
Originally posted by Jay-morris
Originally posted by moonleaf
reply to post by Jay-morris
I am a Christian and I do not hate anyone. I believe that homosexuality is a sin, but I do not go around judging people for what they do behind closed doors. That is not MY place! I do not believe that GOD hates gays anymore than I believe he hates all of us sinners. GOD is love. I accept everyone. I don't go around bashing people for their beliefs and it really bothers me that everyone on here is so quick to bash Christians.
The only thing that I have a problem with and (what I think Donkey Dean is saying about the media) is that the media portrays that anything goes and that it is sexy to be with both sexes. For impressionable young kids that is a bad thing. If you believe that watching smoking being portrayed as cool on tv can lead to children smoking, then you may understand where I am going with this. Its like "free love" all over again but this time with both sexes.
I know 12 - 13 year old girls that make out with other girls to impress boys. Anything that promotes promiscuity is a bad thing in my opinion. These girls aren't "going both ways" because that is "who they are". They are doing it to look cool. If you do not realize that this is going on, then you really need to open your eyes and read up on the subject.
You should also learn a thing about tolerance. I am tolerant of others beliefs but it seems like tolerance is thrown out the window when Chrsitians post on this site. No one can bash other religions or lifestyles on here without having their posts removed but you can say whatever you want about Christians and Christianity and it is totatlly acceptable. To me that is just sad.
Well, as i believe the bibles laws were done by man, and nothing to do with God what so ever, then of course it pi**es me of when i hear people say its a sin. My brother is gay, and so is my sister, and i know what they have been through, and still go through. I people are going to post on here stuff about gay people, and how its a sin, then i will post on why i think the bible, and religon is a load of crap!
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
Originally posted by Stormwind™
Originally posted by Jay-morris
Originally posted by Stormwind™
reply to post by Donkey_Dean
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
I personally worry that my children...
Awful isnt it. I read what he wrote and inside I am cringing. Then I think omg how far have we come and still someone like this is able to get a job, earn money, find someone who is interested enough to produce a life with him, and he is obviously allowed to vote and I pity him, his kids, his poor wife and his country. Because sadly he is in no way alone. And if his kids grow up smart they will end up probably hating him for his views because when they interact with other, much more enlightened people, they will look at his views and pity him also. Otherwise his genetic line produces nothing more than a moral cul-de-sac.
Personally that statement is a worry, on the other hand at least refuse collection will be safe for another generation.
I worry about his children too. Its parents like this who children end up killing themselves because mummy and daddy say that being gay is a sin. They put there faith (not real) in front of there own children. Worse parents in the world are religious parents!
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Stormwind™]
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Stormwind™]
Were you talking # about my kids?
I didn’t bash you dude, and I am not your father. I am sure your father loves the fact that you’re gay ok! I do not preach to my children that being gay is wrong. I do understand that some are gay by design, and my children’s well being is what is most important to me.
That said I had many gay friends growing up and I have seen many a straight women fall to the advances of my charming lesbian cousin. I wish a straight life for my children mostly because of the way my gay friends lives have turned out. Well that and I want grandchildren, and honestly it would be a little embarrassing to me. Like I had done something wrong you see. My cousin was abused in every which way you could imagine and I connect the homosexuality to that I guess. I grew up in the same household as my cousin and I love her like a sister. Growing up she was my best friend. I could give a # whether she is gay or not.
A common friend Kirby died some years ago from AIDS, and I heard some others I knew back in the day are living with HIV.
THANK GOD I NEVER SWUNG THAT WAY!!!!!
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
Originally posted by Jay-morris
Originally posted by moonleaf
reply to post by Jay-morris
I am a Christian and I do not hate anyone. I believe that homosexuality is a sin, but I do not go around judging people for what they do behind closed doors. That is not MY place! I do not believe that GOD hates gays anymore than I believe he hates all of us sinners. GOD is love. I accept everyone. I don't go around bashing people for their beliefs and it really bothers me that everyone on here is so quick to bash Christians.
The only thing that I have a problem with and (what I think Donkey Dean is saying about the media) is that the media portrays that anything goes and that it is sexy to be with both sexes. For impressionable young kids that is a bad thing. If you believe that watching smoking being portrayed as cool on tv can lead to children smoking, then you may understand where I am going with this. Its like "free love" all over again but this time with both sexes.
I know 12 - 13 year old girls that make out with other girls to impress boys. Anything that promotes promiscuity is a bad thing in my opinion. These girls aren't "going both ways" because that is "who they are". They are doing it to look cool. If you do not realize that this is going on, then you really need to open your eyes and read up on the subject.
You should also learn a thing about tolerance. I am tolerant of others beliefs but it seems like tolerance is thrown out the window when Chrsitians post on this site. No one can bash other religions or lifestyles on here without having their posts removed but you can say whatever you want about Christians and Christianity and it is totatlly acceptable. To me that is just sad.
Well, as i believe the bibles laws were done by man, and nothing to do with God what so ever, then of course it pi**es me of when i hear people say its a sin. My brother is gay, and so is my sister, and i know what they have been through, and still go through. I people are going to post on here stuff about gay people, and how its a sin, then i will post on why i think the bible, and religon is a load of crap!
And that’s your prerogative man! If my son decides to be gay then I will support that. What do you think I would do exactly?
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Donkey_Dean]
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Jay-morris
I have no straight friends with HIV. Several people I knew growing up are living with the disease. All are gay men. I don’t know why there is a connection but there clearly is one.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Jay-morris
I have no straight friends with HIV. Several people I knew growing up are living with the disease. All are gay men. I don’t know why there is a connection but there clearly is one.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Jay-morris
Well I am not making it up!
I heard the African epidemic was started by tainted vaccines, the same happened to the gay community here in America with tainted hepatitis vaccine ( dmc.members.sonic.net... ). I imagine that’s why the rates of infection are higher among gay men.
It is what it is man.
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Donkey_Dean]
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Stormwind™
My God huh? Did you bother reading my posts?
www.cdc.gov...
I didn’t make it up Storm. Gay men account for nearly half of the more than one million people living with HIV in the U.S. (48%, or an estimated
532,000 total persons).
Don’t get your panties in a wad. I am not here gay bashing. I was just making a point. If you live a gay lifestyle you expect to be called a fag. Do you really care?
If you are really up in arms because someone called you a fag when you are in fact a gay person then you may need to re-evaluate. I really hope you are not too cool for school here. We all are gay in a way friend. Just most of us do not act on it. For all kinds of different reasons religion beeing just one of many.
Living as a homosexual is a hardship like no other as you do not form the support structures needed later in life. Here is a very relevant documentary: veehd.com...
My grandfather told me on his death bed that his life was complete and full of love because of his children and grandchildren and that his life without us would have been a waste. I wish a full and complete life for my children nothing more. I do not want them corrupted by a glorified image of homosexuality.
[edit on 5-5-2010 by Donkey_Dean]
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Jay-morris
www.cdc.gov...