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People are ever more getting confused because people like yourself are trying to pull them away from whats right to follow what feels good. In your brother's case, he didn't KNOW he was gay, he merely felt the urge to mate with the same gender. Are you saying if I feel the urge to binge drink that I should follow what feels right? Ironically, of all of the gay people I know, not one is happy. They are all self-loathing, bitter, sensitive individuals. Homosexuality is a "sexual" choice and exposing children to it absolutely should be a crime. They can't even remain innocent anymore without people lobbying for their minds.
But i dont have to worry, because i am sure in myself that religon is completly man made. Dont you think its strange that God is ignorant,arragont,hateful,spiteful? He sounds a bit like us doesn't he.
Originally posted by wayno
reply to post by Jay-morris
But i dont have to worry, because i am sure in myself that religon is completly man made. Dont you think its strange that God is ignorant,arragont,hateful,spiteful? He sounds a bit like us doesn't he.
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I disagree with you a bit here Jay. He doesn't sound like "us". He does sound very much like many of these "Christians" tho -- arrogant, hateful, spitefull.
Originally posted by UruFist
You have a freaky sexual preference. That's all.
Originally posted by 1xion325alpha
Well all I really have to say after reading all these bigotry filled comments, as a homo sexual myself:
Another bigot bites the dust!!!!
The unsympathetic view most of you show towards homosexuals, I show towards hate spreaders like that. Ya give what you get.
Btw boondock-saint - that preacher sold me his daughter because the bible told him to. I had to kill her because when I married her I found out she was not a virgin.
People view the one of the two articles in the bible mentioning gay people and obviously haven't read down a few verses to see what else their ancient scholar had to say about children and women. SELECTIVE READERS MUCH???
We all have a sexual preference. I do as well. But, I am not going to create a group for it, and hand out paperwork about it, and try to jam it down the throats of American families, or march in a parade for it, or expect my government to take money away from the rest of the country, and route it to me and my group.
Get it?
You do not deserve any more consideration than anybody else with a favorite sexual preference.
It's your sex life. You should keep it private like everybody else. And, if you want to wave it out in the air, and somebody says something negative, that is your own fault, just as it would be a heterosexuals own fault if they did the same thing.
Your sexual preference is not considered "natural" to religion, or science. That is all there is to it.
If somebody wants to explain how they see that particular sexual preference, they are within their rights do so.
Just the way you are calling them "bigots", they are calling you a "sinner".
[edit on 3-5-2010 by UruFist]
[edit on 3-5-2010 by UruFist]
Originally posted by Bilw85
Originally posted by Jay-morris
Originally posted by Bilw85
A preacher isn't allowed to preach in public because it hurts a few peoples feelings.
Yet, I have to see same sex couples holding hands and kissing in public. See propaganda everywhere about being "openminded". Turn on TV to see Rosie's big gay cruise. Even take a Cultural Diversity class at university that turns into nothing but a big homosexual awareness class.
I find it offensive that society is trying to teach my kids that this is Ok and normal. I have no problem with someone choosing to do this in private; but is it just me that feels it is being flaunted.
And before I hear the "animals do it in the wild, so it's natural" argument; they also eat their young, and eat their feces. Most animal homosexual activity in the wild is an act of dominance, which puts it in the category of rape.
Of course its a good thing to teach children about being gay, as some of them children will be gay and confused. My brother went through school knowing he was gay. Always scared that people would find out. So, yes, we need to teach children that this is not a bad thing, before the bible people get them anyway!
People are ever more getting confused because people like yourself are trying to pull them away from whats right to follow what feels good. In your brother's case, he didn't KNOW he was gay, he merely felt the urge to mate with the same gender. Are you saying if I feel the urge to binge drink that I should follow what feels right? Ironically, of all of the gay people I know, not one is happy. They are all self-loathing, bitter, sensitive individuals. Homosexuality is a "sexual" choice and exposing children to it absolutely should be a crime. They can't even remain innocent anymore without people lobbying for their minds.
How is he a bigot? All he said was homosexuality is a sin. That's all he said. He didn't say that they were going to hell, he didn't say that we should kill them all, he isn't saying that they're sick and disgusting, and he especially isn't talking about their supposed "agenda". All he said was that it's a sin, and seeing how this was in fact, one person he was talking to, he wasn't spreading hate at all. And this is coming from a guy who hates religion. Maybe in your mind he said all of those things, but reality says otherwise. Making comments like these does nothing but prove the points of those who think homosexuals are shoving their lifestyle down our throats.
Originally posted by 1xion325alpha
Well all I really have to say after reading all these bigotry filled comments, as a homo sexual myself:
Another bigot bites the dust!!!!
The unsympathetic view most of you show towards homosexuals, I show towards hate spreaders like that. Ya give what you get.
Btw boondock-saint - that preacher sold me his daughter because the bible told him to. I had to kill her because when I married her I found out she was not a virgin.
People view the one of the two articles in the bible mentioning gay people and obviously haven't read down a few verses to see what else their ancient scholar had to say about children and women. SELECTIVE READERS MUCH???
Except he wasn't treating it as a fact at all, and he wasn't preaching hate. Please read the article before posting.
Originally posted by Tykonos
They should lock him up for insanity.
If you treat a belief as a proven fact and start preaching hate towards people who don't share your belief then where do you draw the line?
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
Originally posted by Tykonos
You are so wrong, he was actually preaching hate towards a section of society. It wasn't just his opinion he was giving to a mate.
How was he preaching hate? His belief and opinion is against gays, and that is his right to feel that way. He was not denying anyone a civil right. In FACT his civil rights were just trompled upon. I dont understand how this fact escapes one.
It was this guys right to voice his opinions just as it is the cops right to pull rope, or dance with the slippery clam which ever be the case if he/she likes. This preacher was not out asking people to commit violence upon gays, but rather just stating his beliefs. When you decide to live as a homosexual then you expected ridicule it just comes with the territory. The cop should be fired for abuse of power. I suspect he will be on the giving end of a large settlement very soon, as people are undoubtedly up in arms here.
You homos might consider that by limiting free speech and trying to dictate your philosophy as law, will bite you in the ass “no pun intended”. Just because you push certain speech underground does not change its impact one bit. Enjoy the freedoms you have now, and approach those issues which prevent you from enjoying the same benefits that same sex couples enjoy. I am all in support of securing rights for homosexual couples, but I will never support laws which limit religious expression and free speech.
Just 15-20 years ago many had to keep their way of life hidden. When I was young we used to attend bible meeting at an apartment in Hooks Texas. The preachers name was Phil. Many years later when Phil died it came to light that Phil was a female. I am sure many knew but I never did. I hate the thought that Phil had to hide her way of life and I can only imagine the troubles she faced throughout her long life. I also have some family members who are gay, and yes I call them fags, homos, you name it. None of them care in the least, and even if they did screw em. If your gonna be a peter puffer then expect some ridicule ya faggot. On that note I like buttering my ass and lollypops in my mouth. By saying it openly I would expect some ridicule and I am ok with that.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Donkey_Dean]
Originally posted by UruFist
Most people that are so vocal about thier hate of the Bible, or disbelief in God, are doing it because they are so terrified by the concepts inside. Usually, concepts that they cannot understand. Or, because certain behaviors and actions are described as "evil" or wrong. Behaviors and actions that the person is engaged in. So, of course they need the Bible to be wrong, or evil or flawed, otherwise it might mean that they are at fault, are sinners, or are engaged in wrong actions.
The sad thing is, that if they stopped listening to the anti-Bible BS out there, and just looked a little deeper, with more of an open mind, they would see that it isn't about being condemned for evil activity.
It's about being forgive. And, that it IS ok, and "human" to do such things.
It's about things being "OK".
But, first, people have to realize that the human factor might be flawed, but a good message can still be found.
Originally posted by Angus123
Originally posted by UruFist
Most people that are so vocal about thier hate of the Bible, or disbelief in God, are doing it because they are so terrified by the concepts inside. Usually, concepts that they cannot understand. Or, because certain behaviors and actions are described as "evil" or wrong. Behaviors and actions that the person is engaged in. So, of course they need the Bible to be wrong, or evil or flawed, otherwise it might mean that they are at fault, are sinners, or are engaged in wrong actions.
The sad thing is, that if they stopped listening to the anti-Bible BS out there, and just looked a little deeper, with more of an open mind, they would see that it isn't about being condemned for evil activity.
It's about being forgive. And, that it IS ok, and "human" to do such things.
It's about things being "OK".
But, first, people have to realize that the human factor might be flawed, but a good message can still be found.
There's something about talking snakes and virgins getting pregnant without sex that does tend to frighten me, yes, lol.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I may not agree with what he said, but I sure will defend his right to say it!
How sad that censorship has reached these levels in our society. He did nothing wrong, he was stating his opinion from a religious standpoint.
~Keeper