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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Pocky
What? No states have seceded from the union friend, I don't know where you got that information.
Originally posted by ararisq
Shhh, not so loud. This is one of the best kept secrets in the United States. Truth is that Delaware and Rhode Island seceded years ago. I mean, really have you ever even seen them in real life? I don't even think they exist... maybe I'll start a new thread about how I remember them belonging to Canada and everything is different now. I can probably get 100 flags for it...
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Pocky
What?
No states have seceded from the union friend, I don't know where you got that information.
~Keeper
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Well I'll trade New Joysey for Quebec any day.
hat it was also the first necessary step in bringing the seven tribes of intelligence (national, military, business, law enforcement, academia, NGO-media, and religious)
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Pocky
What?
No states have seceded from the union friend, I don't know where you got that information.
As for the video, I'll watch later, but it's always good to have a whistleblower.
~Keeper
Acts of rebellion which promote moral and political change must be nonviolent. And one of the most potent nonviolent alternatives in the country, which defies the corporate state and calls for an end to imperial wars, is the secessionist movement bubbling up in some two dozen states including Vermont, Texas, Alaska and Hawaii.
These movements do not always embrace liberal values. Most of the groups in the South champion a “neo-Confederacy” and are often exclusively male and white. Secessionists, who call for statewide referendums to secede, do not advocate the use of force. It is unclear, however, if some will turn to force if the federal structure ever denies them independence.
These groups at least grasp that the old divisions between liberals and conservatives are obsolete and meaningless. They understand that corporations have carried out a coup d’état. They recognize that our permanent war economy and costly and futile imperial wars are unsustainable and they demand that we take popular action to prevent citizens from being further impoverished and robbed by Wall Street speculators and corporations.
“The defining characteristic of the Second Vermont Republic is that there are two enemies, the United States government and corporate America,” Thomas Naylor, who founded Vermont’s secessionist movement, told me when I reached him by phone at his home 10 miles south of Burlington. “One owns the other one. We are not like the tea party. The underlying premise of the tea party movement is that the system is fixable.”
A Blueprint For Peaceful Secession
The United States is fast becoming two countries. One side is becoming more socialist with it's ideals of the control of the means and ways of production, the subornation of the individual to the State, and a large and intrusive central government that takes more of our freedoms, our wealth, and property to redistribute to those groups and individuals that the government deems worthy of or to "right" past "wrongs".
The other side is those Americans who still believe in capitalism and personal profit, limited government, and the representative republic that the founding fathers gave us. Socialism and republican self-government, both a political and economic issue, cannot exist in the same place and the same time and sooner or later the issue will have to be decided. Since it appears that neither side will back down the only alternative to a bloody revolution is a peaceful secession of the United States with each side going it's own way. That is what the Confederacy Project is all about.
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I believe secession is the only option left to save some part of the Republic the founding fathers gave us. I would prefer to see a peaceful separation of the country; one part doing business as usual and the other restoring the Constitution back to the law of the land. Freedom and tyranny cannot coexist in the same place and time. Neither can capitalism and socialism. Failure to allow peaceful secession through the ballot box will only result in a bloody revolution that nobody will win.