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Originally posted by Mr.Noman
I'm from GA, so I know that here it is a "right to work" state. If that applies to your state there is not much you can do, but morally if I were you I would find somewhere else to work...
Here it's called a Labor Board, they are advocates for the common worker. And sorry to cut off you rant, but I plainly said the person most likely would lose their job by taking on "the man".
Originally posted by ucalien
reply to post by NOTurTypical
My suggestion is for you to contact the Labor board in your State. Tell them the details and ask for their recommendations. just remember, if you go on this crusade against the grocery store, you will probably earn a moral victory, but most likely you'll lose your job.
Labor board or Union??? However, I haven't seen none here ask if this guy is married, if he have children, if he have a house, a family to provide... I don't know... I moral crusade right now in this times of economic crisis will be good??? It worth this fight right now?? I mean, he can access ATS or whatever he wants OUTSIDE of his job environment, anytime... And I'm 100% sure that ATS or any member here WON'T pay his bills if he got fired.
Originally posted by ucalien
I'm just wondering if ATS or any conspiracist member here, that is claiming he should pick a fight against the enterprise, will pay his bills and put food on his table if his boss fire him up...
[edit on 14-3-2010 by ucalien]
Originally posted by askbaby
reply to post by Misoir
This is the single most important point mentioned by the poster: that this was your own connectivity. If you were using an Internet connection through your employer then a supervisor could have some justification in telling an employee to not use bandwidth for personal use etc (however lame that sounds!)
Originally posted by askbaby
However - - given your explanation that this was your own private time, your own laptop and your own connectivity, you are fine doing whatever you like as long as you are not displaying inappropriate (ie mature content) to others in the workplace.
Originally posted by Nimrod
reply to post by v3_exceed
But....
On the other hand, if the use of internet became a problem, only since the manager saw one employee surfin on ATS.... and it was not before.
Originally posted by Nimrod
If it is common behavior to surf on the web during breaktime.
Then It begins to look like some kind of discrimination based on political convictions or personnel beliefs.
Usualy, To be fired, based on descrimination is prohibited, regardless the time you have worked for an employer.
Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by Misoir
He's obviously a "limit what people are exposed to because we know what's GOOD for them" MORON. I think Glenn Beck (or one of his ilk) recently stated that anyone who investigates conspiracy theories is a terrorist, or some such idiocy.
Tell him to give me a call. He can use the 1-800 line, I'll pay for the ass chewing he's going to get.
Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by Springer
But if no such things are stipulated in an employment contract, then I think that privacy laws still apply.
[edit on 3/14/2010 by Josephus23]
[edit on 3/14/2010 by Josephus23]
Originally posted by Maxmars
Respectfully, unless I completely missed it, no one here is offering legal opinions. If your contention is that people should not even discuss the matter unless they are lawyers, I'm inclined to presume you are a lawyer, or one of their familiars.
You are most correct in warning that this not be presumed to be legal advice. This community shares many different perspectives according our own experiences, I will expect not all comments to be applicable, but I will not presume to take an accusatory stance in characterizing it as shameful.
In the end, the sad truth remains. "At will" means unprotected except by voluntary employer policy. It is the whole point. The issue of termination needn't ever get into the act of firing someone unless the employer be the actor. To go against that requires the courts... and we know where that lead$.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
he doesn't, and he can't.
Unless he uses some random reason like your scanned in this product wrong.
Tell him to go to hell.
Originally posted by Office 4256
Apparently you live in Florida, which is NOT one of the "no cause" states mentioned by the second poster. Your supervisor is ignorant of the law and obviously not on the cutting edge of HR policies.
Originally posted by Flakey
Florida is an "at will" state meaning they can fire you for any reason so long as it is not illegal. Ideological discrimination could be considered illegal. You can not be discriminated against because of your political views. You have the right to visit this website on your off time with out fear of reprisal.
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
I dont believe they can fire you for reading ATS. It's your right and sounds like your boss is a bit nosey. I would go above his head and talk to his boss or email corporate. He cant fire you for this!
Originally posted by RecentlyAwaken
Your best course of action is to simply find another job. But, we all know that's near impossible these days. However, should you choose to 'fight the good fight' then make sure you are following 'Company Policy' to the letter. If your boss continues with his 'warning' then show him the Company Policy that governs Internet Usage on breaks, acceptable and unacceptable websites, ect. Inform him that according to the Company Policy you are doing nothing wrong and request a 'written warning'. While this may go on your record it can be used later should things become Legally entangled.
From then on, do NOTHING to provoke him. Document everything your told to do and conversations he has with you. Especially ones that stray from the normal instructions that may be construed as 'punishment' for not doing what you were told.
Then, should you be terminated, you'll have all the evidence and documentation to back up a wrongful termination suit. But, remember, YOU have to be 100% clean and w/out fault, follow the rules, no talk back, no threats or showing of anger or violence or you lose everything.