Fox News (conservatives) declare WAR against Higher Education

Yep, you heard it right. Fox News and Neo-Conservatives are now attacking Universities and Education for presenting a supposed "liberal bias and slant" in the field of education.

Personally, I am not Democrat or Republican, but, I officially believe that Fox News and those who stand by this frame of thought have completely lost their minds.

Higher Education is something that has always been deemed a desirable and attainable fortune for self-improvement and makes one much more appealing when looking for careers or jobs. But, at this point with the economy dying so rapidly...no one is getting jobs, so, who gives a crap about education...RIGHT??? As far as they are concerned, NO PROBLEM. This fits right in with the general plan.

Now, the Conservatives "The people who sunk this country in Trillions of debt" are attacking Universities for not presenting their lopsided view of the world. If I recall, this lopsided view was the very thing that has given our country a bad reputation, sunk it into trillions of dollars in debt, made enemies of some of our closes allies, and sent us into two wars which have sacrificed thousands of our loved ones.

Soon, we'll be told that Education is the enemy which will ultimately limit our ability to think critically and weed through the muck that the "Gestapo" is currently pulling over our eyes. To me, this is the lowest and most pathetic level of mind control that I have seen to date. And the worst part is...people will fall for it. It is evident that this country no longer wants to breed thinkers, they want robots. Plain and simple.

Source:
video.foxnews.com...

If someone can post this vid properly to this thread, by all means...Do it.

Star and Flag if you see an inherent problem with this, because personally, this thread should be available to all of the members on ATS. This could dramatically affect us later in the future, especially if conservatives actually take this seriously.


[edit on 16-2-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

Do you have a degree from a major public university?

They can rightly be called communist brainwashing centers.

1. unmitigated support of Keynesian economics

2. "diversity" mandates in course curriculum

3. constant support of expansionist government policy

What's more important is the stuff that is left out.

Things like Austrian economic theory, free market economics, US history as it pertains to the foundation of the constitution and constitutional law, world history as it pertains to central bank planning, etc.. etc..

All public and most private universities live on student loan money issued by the federal government. They also live on state funding.

The professors and the administration are very well aware of this fact and thus have a major incentive to always promote a socialist agenda as it pertains to their educational curriculum.

Teaching students about free markets, freedom, and the constitution would directly threaten the largess they are recipients of.

Increasing loans and grants to universities does nothing but cause the universities to bloat their programs, over-pay their professors, and operate inefficiently. It used to be that you could obtain a high quality college education in this nation with virtually no debt by working your way through school. Today that is next to impossible, all thanks to our communist overlords pumping the fat socialist colleges with tax payer loot stolen from the public at gun point.

Is it fair that a man who never went to college should be forced, at the point of a gun, to hand over his hard earned money so someone else's kid can go to school on his dime?

Is it fair that educational institutions should be insulated from all competition in pricing by the tax payer?

Is it fair that college tuition is skyrocketing under the ridiculous student loan deals setup by the federal government which now forces students into massive debt in order to finance their education?





[edit on 16-2-2010 by mnemeth1]

Oh religion, will you ever stop with these age old tactics.

keep the population dumb and enslaved, let the elite have the education and you simply do our bidding.

ok, religion...Faux news...same thing really.

maybe the republicans need more voters? -sorry

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Good to know you had your talking points prepared for you. Don't you hate it when they forget to arm up the puppets with the right notes.

Kind regards
elitist pig with a degree

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Well, I guess that you could look at it that way...Lord knows that there are elements of truth in what you've said, but...Take a look around. If the next enemy is higher education, then, what's the next enemy??? Thinking???

[edit on 16-2-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Good to know you had your talking points prepared for you. Don't you hate it when they forget to arm up the puppets with the right notes.

Kind regards
elitist pig with a degree

Excellently stated actually. Short and to the point.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Good to know you had your talking points prepared for you. Don't you hate it when they forget to arm up the puppets with the right notes.

Kind regards
elitist pig with a degree

I don't need talking points memorized ahead of time.

Common sense tells you the colleges have no incentive to promote competition as a means of controlling tuition costs.

Keep on dreaming about your socialist utopia though, because this nation is headed into a debt spiral of epic proportions. This nations foray into socialism will be ending shortly.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
Do you have a degree from a major public university?

They can rightly be called communist brainwashing centers.

I do... What are you talking about lol

How does that make sense? Wouldn't that mean university educated people would support communist ideologies by a substantial margin? Why isn't that the case? Could it be because you have no idea what you're talking about? I think so.

What does communism, or any of the other things you listed, even have to do with most university degrees? You would have to enrol into a program where you would have to come across those subjects... how would you do that unless that's what you wanted? I don't know about the universities where you live, but in places outside of crazy town, you pick your own classes

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Good to know you had your talking points prepared for you. Don't you hate it when they forget to arm up the puppets with the right notes.

Kind regards
elitist pig with a degree

I don't need talking points memorized ahead of time.

Common sense tells you the colleges have no incentive to promote competition as a means of controlling tuition costs.

Keep on dreaming about your socialist utopia though, because this nation is headed into a debt spiral of epic proportions. This nations foray into socialism will be ending shortly.

Yes, and at that point, it will officially be called fascism, which is the true direction of this country.

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You dont understand. I personally would like to thank Faux news. I think they need to spend as much time as possible discouraging fine young republicans from getting an education.

There needs to be alot more people building a mansion than for people living in the mansion. Faux is contributing to a large number of ditch diggers for the future, and they will be our servants.

I fully support Faux's war on thinking...As we know, it is impossible for a conservative to become a professor..its part of the constitution or something.

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Yes, and at that point, it will officially be called fascism, which is the true direction of this country.

You at least got that right.

However the same system that's propping up Wall Street is the same corrupt system that's fueling the outrageous costs in education.

There is no difference between the two.

No competition, massive government subsidies, no market incentives to keep costs down and quality up, no risk of failure.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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You dont understand. I personally would like to thank Faux news. I think they need to spend as much time as possible discouraging fine young republicans from getting an education.

There needs to be alot more people building a mansion than for people living in the mansion. Faux is contributing to a large number of ditch diggers for the future, and they will be our servants.

I fully support Faux's war on thinking...As we know, it is impossible for a conservative to become a professor..its part of the constitution or something.

I like it. That actually was downright hilarious and thoughtful at the same time.

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Yes, and at that point, it will officially be called fascism, which is the true direction of this country.

You at least got that right.

However the same system that's propping up Wall Street is the same corrupt system that's fueling the outrageous costs in education.

There is no difference between the two.

No competition, massive government subsidies, no market incentives to keep costs down and quality up, no risk of failure.

Oh, I'm aware of the dangers of corporatism, however, it is essential that education remains available to the public. Without it, we will become no different than any third world country without infrastructure or the means to run it.

Have you ever seen the movie idiocracy??? To be honest, things are already looking worse and worse in that direction. However, as long as I'm breathing, I would like to know that education still stays a priority. Otherwise, you can kiss this country goodbye. And yet, it won't be long before we are doing that anyway.

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I found a university that is not plagued by liberal bias.
- DeVry University -
Plenty of degrees available
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There are a lot of liberal universities that believe in the diversity of
everything except thought.
Some universities actively "shout down" any opposing views.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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I found a university that is not plagued by liberal bias.
- DeVry University -
Plenty of degrees available

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There are a lot of liberal universities that believe in the diversity of
everything except thought.
Some universities actively "shout down" any opposing views.

Excellent. But, I'm sure that the liberal bias is not nearly as widespread as Fox News has made it out to be.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Some universities actively "shout down" any opposing views.

I think you might be confusing "opposing views" for wrong views.

Aren't conservatives supposed to oppose social relativism? The idea that everyones views are equally right and everyone is entitled to their own truth...

Of course everyone is entitled to their own crazy ideas on their own time, but in a learning environment, there are actually right and wrong answers you know.

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Oh, I'm aware of the dangers of corporatism, however, it is essential that education remains available to the public. Without it, we will become no different than any third world country without infrastructure or the means to run it.

Have you ever seen the movie idiocracy??? To be honest, things are already looking worse and worse in that direction. However, as long as I'm breathing, I would like to know that education still stays a priority. Otherwise, you can kiss this country goodbye. And yet, it won't be long before we are doing that anyway.

What is essential is that government get out of the education business entirely.

As with all things, those motivated enough can put themselves through school without any assistance what-so-ever from government if schools were forced to operate entirely as private enterprises.

We see the price of plastic surgery coming down at the same time its quality improves.

We see electronics coming down in price at the same time their quality improves.

We see EVERYTHING that is unregulated by government and subject to competition reduce in price as its quality improves.

As was once the case in this nation, all college students who wish to attend college in a free market system would be able to do so on their own dime if they had the will to do so. Costs would fall and quality would improve until everyone was able to afford an education. - and that education would be far superior to what is currently dished out.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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I found a university that is not plagued by liberal bias.
- DeVry University -
Plenty of degrees available

Naa, thats just what the liberals want you to believe...lure you in with the guise of learning stuff and getting a degree, next thing you know, your eating tulips while making love to a tree
Dont fall for it.

and frankly...high school is suspect also. we all know it...numbers past 10 are elitist.

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I can agree with that statement to a certain extent. Big Government has been a huge problem for years, and to that end...Its our fault, not theirs.

You can't blame the government for taking advantage of something that we readily gave them, which ultimately is...control.

However, I do agree with certain points that you've made about unnecessary government involvement. However, its here now and I don't see anyone doing anything about it. Our education institutions are one of the very things that separate us from other Industrial societies and is the reason why millions come to our nation every year. If we remove it, we remove one of the very things that used to make this country great.