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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
You want me to show you how you are filled with hate? It is clear as day when you look at yourself you see the truth inside when you put that truth inside down on paper it shows everyone else something and what I see is you are closed off to the idea of it.
Why are you so closed when you have in reality 1000s of witnesses and survivors.
It is like telling the crazy person the voices do not exist to the crazy person the voices are very real indeed.
I will never change your mind
and if you truly wanted to know the truth you would seek it out with the people who lived it not some ww2 patch collector.
This is why I pointed you in a direction but you choice to ignore it once again in my eyes showing hate because you do not want to find the facts you ask for.
It is really kind of strange it is like a thirsty man asking for water and then refusing to drink.
www.gnosticliberationfront.com...
Early attempts to introduce Holocaustianity's kernel - a hoax of "six million" dead or dying Jews - failed, when global conditions did not include the prerequisite critical mass of corrupt world leaders. In June 1900, for example, Rabbi Stephen Wise spoke of Rabbi Stephen Wise"6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favour of zionism". Another botched attempt to kick-start the myth was in 1919, when few believed Martin Glynn's claims of "six million" starving Jews. In 1936, Chaim Weizmann told of "six million" Jews in Europe who were unwanted and effectively sentenced to be imprisoned.
The derivation of the "six million" is an ancient Jewish prophecy, which predicts the return of the Jews to the "Promised Land" after the loss of six million of their number. Specifically, the six stems from the sixth letter "vav" in the Hebrew alphabet or alefbet. Six is the number of man in the Jewish tradition, since vav is said to be a picture of man. Man was supposedly created on the sixth day, works for six days of the week, and the "beast" has the "number of a man" - 666. Six billion deaths would be credible only to utter nincompoops; six thousand would be too insignificant to yield appreciable income and political capital. Hence, six million was chosen as a figure that almost everyone could agree on.
The few who had been duped by the pre-WWII scams did provide some cash. However, the crooked zionist mafia were already immensely rich by the time of Glynn's assertions, through seizing control of US and European central banks and newspapers, and looting Russia in the "Bolshevik Revolution". Nowadays these crime supremos will not even get out of bed for anything less than a billion dollars, unless the project provides other non-financial benefits.
Originally posted by gwydionblack
I'm actually very intrigued now. I have always taken the "history" taught to me of the Holocaust at face value but some of the information in this topic has led me to question the whole story.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I am still waiting to be convinced... with evidence.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I challenge you to show me evidence and convince me.
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I challenge you to show me evidence and convince me.
There is more than enough evidence to convince anyone but jew haters. Nothing at all will convince one of those.
www.jewwatch.com...
WWII reduced the total population of all of Europe by more than 25% or 150 million, from 542 million in 1940 to 392 million in 1950. If the Jewish population in Europe alone had decreased by a similar 25%, or 2.5 million Jews, there would have been only 12.8 million Jews worldwide in 1946. If the 1946 almanac is correct, then there were 3 million more Jews than that in 1946 and even more in 1950. This would mean that the Jewish population increased at the same time that the European and Christian populations were decimated. And that suggests that the Nazis did a better job of protecting Jews than of protecting Christians, or, conversely, that it was Christians and not Jews who the Nazis persecuted. There were undoubtedly Jews who were treated unfairly during WWII, because war is that way. But if this data doesn't suggest that Nazis treated Jews much more fairly than they treated Christians and other Europeans, it definitely proves that Jews died at a much lower rate than Christians.
If fewer than 2.5 million Jews died during WWII, then they died at a rate lower than all of the rest of Europe. BUT THERE WERE 584,549 MORE Jews AFTER WWII THAN BEFORE.
Even by 1990, the population of Europe of 501 million was still 7% lower than it was in 1940. But the worldwide population of Jews in 1988 was 18.08 million, 85% higher than the 9.8 million whom the holocaust organizers claimed were alive in 1946, and 55% higher than the 11.63 million figure in the 1955 Almanac. Isn't it strange that Americans are so consumed with images of millions of Jews dying in Nazi concentration camps that they are oblivious to 216 million Christians who died? Nobody, not even Jews, disputes that less than half the population of concentration camps were Jews. Who were the other half? Christians. Even if you accepted the Holocaust story in its entirety as historical fact, this is still 25 times as many Christians as Jews who died. Many of these Christians died in the course of defending their homes and homelands, rather than in concentration camps where Jews were herded after they successfully lobbied for and got gun control laws in pre-war Germany, just as they're now doing in the US.
Originally posted by shasta9600
reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation
What exactly do you believe has happened in history and what was the proof that brought you to that conclusion? Just so we have some frame of reference for the kind of proof you're asking for.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I have endlessly searched for definitive proof concerning the Holocaust. Thus far I have came up short. Why do I not believe the official story? Because of so much obfuscation concerning the subject. I could post videos revealing eyewitnesses caught changing their stories on separate video-taped occasions, but I do not want to post examples of suspect curiosities for fear that this thread will be sidetracked by refuting such examples rather than answering the question at hand.
Why am I concerned? Well it is not because I am an anti-semitic jew hater (I am dating a lovely Jewish girl). It is actually because the state of our world is widely a result of Israeli influence and furthermore, Israel is treating their neighbors much like the Gestapo treated them during WWII.
I am curious to why it is taboo to question the Holocaust in every country, and why it is against the law to question it in some European countries.
Through my research I have come to a tentative theory, and I am genuinely asking ATS to straighten out my inquiry, if possible.
Judea Declares War on Germany
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