Lord Xenu and Scientology.. Xenophobia

Nick Xenophon against scientology, is it Xenophobia?

Did anyone else pick up on the Senators name???? in the news headline recently, about Nick Xenophon calling a parliamentary enquiry against the Church of Scientology....

Nick Xeno Phon... Or is it Xenu Phon???? XENU! Now some of you may know about the supposed alien dictator that dropped other aliens into a volcano and then dropped a nuke on them, all by the powerful Lord XENU.

First of all let me say, yes I studied with Scientology in 2001 for 3 months. I classify myself as a Suppressive Individual, and perhaps, so do they. What i would like to comment on is what actually happened in 2001.

I attended a seminar which I was NOT supposed to be in. Thats right, after a certain amount of time, I had to be escorted out of the center because I was not supposed to be there. I was at a meeting in Australia, and what the speaker said to me was absolutely mind boggling, I was wondering how they were going to do what they said they were going to do, and I can slowly start to see it now..

They stipulated, and I quote:

We have nearly completed Scientologists Global Agenda, we will complete this within 8 to 10 years'

That was in 2001. So 8 or 10 + 2001 is between 2009 and 2011. that is NOW people.

What is their global agenda? They want the world to be free of the Insane, Free of Criminals and stop War.

I wondered how the hell they would do this?

I found out that they have a structure in place to own companies that founders are scientologists, but have no link to Scientology.

One company is Stars Edge International. The founder was a Scientologist for 15 years but left Scientology and founded 'Avatar'. You can find Avatar at

www.avatarepc.com...

Another company that has Scientology influence is Landmark Education. You can find Landmark Education at www.landmarkeducation.com...

I have actually completed Landmark Forum and Landmark Advanced course, I found out during the advance course that it has Scientology influence among otheri nfluences.

There are many companies out there that has Scientology influences, and I believe this is one of the goals. This news story got me thinking again.

It is my belief that the Xenu Story is propaganda, I dont believe they actually believe this, There is a term called 'Xenophobia' ( en.wikipedia.org... ) and this is a term to describe 'The Fear of Aliens'. So Lord Xenu is a play on words, its a con job. There is no Lord Xenu. What this refers to is either one or two out of the

following:

1) Scientologists actually do believe in Aliens
2) Scientologists named their arch enemy "xenu" to conform to the Fear of 'Alienation' a question which is always asked in psychological evaluations.

Quite strange.

Now I believe in the cause of Senator Xenophon, i just can't get over the coincidence!! Lord Xenu tieing in to Xenophobia, tying into to Senator Xenophon.

Weird!

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[edit on 20/11/2009 by Im a Marty]

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No, I had never heard of Xenophone, or Xenu, or however you spell it.

I can tell you this though, xenophobia is the fear of outsiders.

So, that being said, maybe this is the reason the stated "enemy" of Scientology of Xenu?

Quote from : Wikipedia : Xenophobia

Xenophobia is a dislike and/or fear of that which is unknown or different from oneself.

It comes from the Greek words ξένος (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and φόβος (phobos), meaning "fear."

The term is typically used to describe a fear or dislike of foreigners or of people significantly different from oneself, usually in the context of visibly differentiated minorities.

This would explain why if you are not one of them, they will distance themselves.

Rise of Xenophobia in Europe


Xenophobic Violence Erupts in South Africa


Mumbai New Immigrants Victims of Xenophobia


I highly suggest everyone read this book, about fear :

The Science of Fear: Why We Fear the Things We Shouldn't--and Put Ourselves in Greater Danger

Publishers Weekly : Amazon Review :

Gardner, a columnist and senior writer for the Ottawa Citizen, is both matter-of-fact and entertaining in this look at fear and how it shapes our lives.

Although we are capable of reason, says Gardner, we often rely instead on intuitive snap judgments.

We also assume instinctively, but incorrectly, that if examples of something can be recalled easily, that thing must be common.

And what is more memorable than headlines and news programs blaring horrible crimes and diseases, plane crashes and terrorist attacks?

In fact, such events are rare, but their media omnipresence activates a gut-level fear response that is out of proportion to the likelihood of our going through such an event.

It doesn't help that scientific data and statistics are often misunderstood and misused and that our risk assessment is influenced less by the facts than by how others respond.

Gardner's vivid, direct style, backed up by clear examples and solid data from science and psychology, brings a breath of fresh air and common sense to an emotional topic.

(June)

Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

[edit on 20-11-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

reply to post by Im a Marty


Interesting read. You might be the first person who I've really seen treat the Xenu story as allegory or symbolism for something deeper. The landmark stuff always seemed to have things in common with Scientology too so that's no big surprise.

That the Xenu story is a parable or symbolic, or code even, would explain so much.

I thought though, as far as their global agenda that they didn't think they were that close. I was under the impression that this cult had reached it's peak and was losing it's numbers. And they thought they had a really long way to go even before that started happening.

They might think they are going to be in control of the world someday but even if they succeed nothing is going to get better until humanity itself changes. Different rulers, different rules, wont matter... only people can make a difference.

reply to post by Novise


Novise..

Taken from here..

au.todaytonight.yahoo.com...

The Church of Scientology internationally has grown from one Church in 1954 to more than 8000 Churches, Missions and groups in 165 countries today. The Church sponsors an international human rights education initiative as well as the world's largest nongovernmental drug education program.

Four new Churches have opened in 2009, most recently the Church of Scientology of Rome on October 24, with a new Church opening in Washington, DC, on October 31. In April, three new Churches were dedicated: in Malmo, Sweden; Dallas, Texas; and Nashville, Tennessee. The Scientology religion has expanded more in the past year than in the past five years combined and more in the past five years than in the past five decades combined.

reply to post by Novise


Novise, a lot of people see things through parables, and see as well through the veil.

The lies of propaganda, are not just in Government, they are deep within religion just as well.

Spartan, I can see its propoganda, i just don't understand why.

I know they definitely do believe in Entities, as in Avatar they have whats called EHP, or Entity Handling Procedure.

Taken from Avatar Wizards Course

Part Five: Entities

* What led to the breakthrough research and rewrite of the entity rundown?
* What is the real meaning behind classical spiritual paradigms?
* The two paths to spiritual awareness: the stairway to heaven and the path of ascension.
* Explore reality planes beyond the physical.
* Take the grand tour of astral plane reality-Do Not Disturb.
* Here is a simple technique for turning on astral perceptions.
* Three types of troublesome entities and how they influence your life.
* How to locate and handle entity influences with the Entity Handling Procedure (EHP).
* Six new EHP rundowns. These may well be the simplest and most powerful rundowns ever developed.

Interesting, so even Avatar deal with entities as do Scientology.

Hrmmm here's a video of Wizards from Avatar

Google Video Link

[edit on 20/11/2009 by Im a Marty]

[edit on 20/11/2009 by Im a Marty]

I wouldn't worry about Scientology too much. Its founder, L. Ron Hubbard, was a science fiction writer. I think what happened is that he spun a wild tale, then got himself caught up in his own fiction.

As far as I can tell, Scientology has been steadily losing ground over the past decade. They are still powerful in places, but they seem to be weakening. Maybe now that Hubbard is dead, the organization will crumble. I don't know...

It's a common misconception that most Scientologists believe in the whole Xenu bit. Actually that story is not revealed to Scientologists until something called OT3, which is a fairly advanced grade, so a large majority of Scientologists actually have no idea who Xenu is (yes I know that's hard to believe in the age of the internet but Scientology restricts access to that sort of stuff.)

And the Church of Scientology is deteriorating rapidly. the free access to information and inside whistleblowers is the worst thing imaginable to Scientology.
Their numbers are dwindling rapidly, despite what they would have their public and their members believe.

I believe that we will see the fall of the COS within a decade or two

Do you know they have a Office in every Scientology Church labelled 'L.Ron Hubbard' as if they're expecting him to walk in any day... They told me that its for his re-incarnation.

Originally posted by MrVertigo
It's a common misconception that most Scientologists believe in the whole Xenu bit. Actually that story is not revealed to Scientologists until something called OT3, which is a fairly advanced grade, so a large majority of Scientologists actually have no idea who Xenu is (yes I know that's hard to believe in the age of the internet but Scientology restricts access to that sort of stuff.)

And the Church of Scientology is deteriorating rapidly. the free access to information and inside whistleblowers is the worst thing imaginable to Scientology.
Their numbers are dwindling rapidly, despite what they would have their public and their members believe.

I believe that we will see the fall of the COS within a decade or two

Well as i said they've started up other organisations such as Avatar and Landmark Education, who knows what other companies they're running, either way as 'scientology' yes, they may deteriorate, but they'll probably go underground LOL like Weishaupts Illuminati! haha

Originally posted by Novise
reply to post by Im a Marty

 

Interesting read. You might be the first person who I've really seen treat the Xenu story as allegory or symbolism for something deeper. The landmark stuff always seemed to have things in common with Scientology too so that's no big surprise.

That the Xenu story is a parable or symbolic, or code even, would explain so much.

I thought though, as far as their global agenda that they didn't think they were that close. I was under the impression that this cult had reached it's peak and was losing it's numbers. And they thought they had a really long way to go even before that started happening.

They might think they are going to be in control of the world someday but even if they succeed nothing is going to get better until humanity itself changes. Different rulers, different rules, wont matter... only people can make a difference.

Nota bene: In the original texts it is the EVIL lord xenu. It may be a hint, about the demonization of extraterrestrial life forms... as described by Dr Carol Rosen's interview about 1977 the death bed warning from Dr Werhner Von Braun... LINK

And this just in:

Aaron Saxton's Youtube channel, in the comments section from aaron
www.youtube.com...
(A MUST watch series of videos)

Hello Everyone.
THE AUSTRALIAN SENATE WILL DECIDE MONDAY IF THERE WILL BE AN INQUIRY
INTO SCIENTOLOGY.
TELL THE PRME MINISTER OF AUSTRALIA YOU WANT THE INQUIRY AND WHY
Prime Minister - www.pm.gov.au...

Malcolm Turnbull - (The guy who wants to be Prime Minister)
www.aph.gov.au...

reply to post by Im a Marty


I would have thought it quite obvious, Im a Marty, the motive and intent, is quite clear to me.

They are after money and control of that money, plain and simple.

They isolate you, control you, and then fleece you.

Make you xenophobic, isolation from outsiders, control you via propaganda, and fleece you through telling you to give up your "worldly possessions", to the "church".

Each time you take a new step, you raise a level in the church, thereby as well sinking more and more into their control.

L. Ron Hubbard - The Lying Conman (mirror)


Scientology is a cult.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Cult

Cult pejoratively refers to a group whose beliefs or practices could be considered strange or sinister.

The term was originally used to denote a system of ritual practices.

The narrower, derogatory sense of the word is a product of the 20th century, especially since the 1980s, and is a result of the anti-cult movement, which uses the term in reference to groups seen as authoritarian, exploitative and possibly dangerous.

The popular, derogatory sense of the term has no currency in academic studies of religions, where "cults" are subsumed under the neutral label of "new religious movement", while academic sociology has partly adopted the popular meaning of the term.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Cult : See Also

See also

* Classifications of cults and new religious movements
* Cults and governments
* Destructive cult
* List of groups referred to as cults in government documents
* New religious movement
* Opposition to cults and new religious movements
* Religious Conversion
* Scientology

[edit on 20-11-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Interestingly, unless I am the victim of propaganda, I understand that Scientology, as an 'agenda,' led to them virtually owning a small city in Florida.

'Infiltration' and 'Intrigue' are artifacts about which they are very cocky.

Could there be a method in their madness? Is it so outrageous to wonder if secrecy is the root of it's cause and power? Thought control, indoctrination, personality 'break-down', under any other circumstances would be called brainwashing. Making the subject pay for and actually believe something that is untrue is simply criminal.

But they are a religion right? There is some element of faith in the mix, isn't there? "Oh yes, we believe in Xenu.... see? We're a religion."

UNTAXED CORPORATE ENTITIES ARE THE ONLY "FREE" CITIZENS.

Guess what Scientology really is...

[edit on 21-11-2009 by Maxmars]

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Maxmars, you are not a victim of propaganda, unless at the hands of Scientology, or worse, the Government.

Clearwater, Florida : The Town Scientology Bought

Quote from : Clearwater, Florida : The Town Scientology Bought

Decades ago, L. Ron Hubbard moved his Cult of Scientology into Clearwater, Florida.

The plan, entitled Project Normandy, was to take over Clearwater.

Documentation of this comprehensive operation – which included plans to infiltrate government and media organizations, and to identify and “handle” enemies – was discovered in a 1977 FBI raid of Scientology headquarters.

Despite the discovery of Project Normandy, the cult has achieved notable success in carrying out this project.

The cult has come to own a very generous proportion of the city, with the total value of owned property estimated at $40 million in 2000.

Given the cult’s ambition to continue to expansion in Clearwater, I would be interested in knowing how much land they control now, 8 years later.

Some have come to call Clearwater Scientology’s town.

As well, here is a list of famous Scientology members, either being duped, or a part of the dupe.

Famous Scientologists

You would be amazed at the people on that list, other than Tom Cruise.

They infiltrated 'Clearwater' Florida?

Thats so interesting because being 'Clear' is a Scientologists 'personal' goal.

So being in 'Clearwater' is the Scientologists Mecca hey....

Interesting

reply to post by Im a Marty


Yeah, the synergy is there..., assuming there is ever a right way to use that damn word.... synchronicity? Or perhaps the name of the place was a coincidence.... are there such things?

Nah, it was probably an opportunity for marketing potential.

It was cool how you connected Senator Xenophon with Xenu .

Xenu and Xeno contain the same morpheme (smallest linguistic unit that has semantic meaning). The morpheme here would be Xen and the meanings foreign, alien, are contained within those three letters.
So the synchronicity is there, yes, but it's even cooler because it's going on in the wordplays as well.

Guess what Xenophon means?
Phon means sound- as in phone and phonetics.
The Senator’s last name means foreign sound, or alien sound.
Still with me?
Take a look at what his first name means:
The male given name, Nicholas, is derived from the Greek Νικόλαος, Nikólaos, a combination of the words for "victory" (níkē) and "people" (laós). The name can be understood to mean victory of the people or "power of the people- en.wikipedia.org...
From wikipedia
Now the man whose name means Voice of The People Foreign/Alien Sound stands up against Scientology and speaks on behalf of the people, yet he does so , not in America where Hubbard and his gang originate , but from down under; almost on the opposite side of the world.



Next …


“In Scientology doctrine, Xenu (also Xemu) is a galactic ruler who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs.”- from wikipedia

The morpheme Xen is also used in the periodic element Xenon.


“Xenon(Gr. Xenon, stranger) discovered in 1898 by Ramsey and Tavers in residue left after evaporating liquid air.”



Xenon is a gas. An invisible but present energy much like Hubbard’s supposed Thetans.
It was discovered in residue left after evaporating liquid air and it made me think of Hubbard’s Thetans; leftover residue J

Then you have this:
133 135
Xe and Xe are produced by neutron irradiation in air cooled nuclear containers.

And this:

“Xenon is used in the nuclear energy field in bubble containers.”

Xenu with his bombs,
Xenon with its nuclear potential.
One could conclude that Hubbard took some serious drugs and started reading about Xenon at which point his own subconscious mind created a religion out of its properties J




Oh, and Xenon is also found in the Martian atmosphere to the extent of.08ppm.

So there you have the alien world motif

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I forgot to put in the link for the Xenon info
Here is a second line
Here is the link
periodic.lanl.gov...

AWESOME!!!!!! Well done on clarrifiying Xenon and Xen!

With regards to the senators first name.. Nick.. other 'Nickname' could be used as well..

Nickname Xenu Phon (Phon as in Phonetics... or Phon as in Phony ie Fake)

Great post there, Starred!!

Something funny occurred to me.

This is, of course, entirely a flight of fancy... but

If Scientology as an institution (I have difficulty understanding the "religious" label) requires legitimacy to reach it's final agenda; they will need to have an active information campaign to work their magic. It appears to me they do.

If Scientology needs to enter the political arena, it must get 'on stage'

This Legislator could be doing them a huge favor, if you consider the old adage, "No publicity is 'bad' publicity." His name could even be considered a symbolic flag, telegraphing the conspiracy as is often done when they don't want you to forget.... if you are inclined to view things that way.

It could be that this will create a 'false-flag' effect in their membership, stoking their 'faith' or 'loyalty', or simply arousing interest in the 'gift' they claim to bring, or their apparently suspicious 'honey trap' indoctrination....

Just thought I would drop that notion. I admit it is pure speculation, but I was wondering how far off the mark you may think I am.