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Originally posted by johnny2127
Obviously you don't understand that you cannot prove a negative.
Originally posted by debris765nju
s914.photobucket.com... In my opinion you will never find out the TRUTH about aliens on ATS it is actively discouraged from the top down, crakeur aka Stephen will label you as crazy and "lock" your thread without a hearing or move it to a "hoax" thread without proving it is a hoax. I have posted 2500 photographs on photobucket showing alien life that i would have shown here but for him. This post is not to lure anyone away from ATS but to answer the question why the proof is not on ATS.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
This thread shows how blind skeptics and debunkers are.
They keep talking about proving a negative when I never said anything about proof. These people are truy illogical. Show me where I asked you for proof. It has nothing to do with proving a negative.
This is a response you hear from skeptics and debunkers and they have been taught to say that you can't prove a negative. Their like robots, they can't debate the issue because they want to keep saying you can't prove a negative. I never asked you for proof of anything.
I debate things like parallel universes, quantum loop gravity, simulation theory and more and none of these things have proof. There's evidence for and against the proposition. It has nothing to do with proving a negative.
Again, skeptics and debunkers are like broken records that can't think for themselves. This has nothing to do with proving a negative.
I never asked you for evidence to disprove the existence of extraterrestrial/extradimensional beings.
I asked for evidence against the proposition that extraterrestrial/extradimensional beings exist and against visitation.
Pseudoskeptics and debunkers are programmed to debate against proving a negative and they can't understand a simple debate for and against a proposition. They need to visit a college and listen to a few debates.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
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Debating a proposition has nothing to do with "proving a negative." This is just something pseudoskeptics and debunkers have been programmed to say.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
Show me where I asked you for proof.
evidence
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1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
I hear a lot of evidence for things like abduction accounts, pictures, video, radar, trace evidence and more. I never hear any evidence against.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
We have found liquid water on Mars, there's billions of earth like planets, we look at things like extremaphiles,extra dimensions, the multiverse and more.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
What's the evidence and argument that supports reducing life in the galaxy to earth? What evidence out there prohibits alien abductions from occuring?
Originally posted by tristar
Is it me or hasn't anyone noticed how far off topic this thread has been directed. I was under the assumption that a particular person asked for evidence of hostile aliens.
Before we answer that simple and straight forward question, i would imagine one would need to clarify if he accepts non earth life forms are visiting this planet you all call Earth >.
Once you can accept that then i guess we can move into further hard core evidence. But then again, perhaps its much safer to stay in the safety net of your perceived reality.
You are a product of your environment.
Originally posted by unicorn1
reply to post by Matrix Rising
With respect, I don't think you can apply the analogy of a debate where you have an argument two ways. I think believers have to prove a case for the existence of something - it can't be the other way round.
But here's my 2 cents. The world is so vast, I think if we were getting visitations, there would be a lot more sightings by now. Regarding the existing sightings/reports, these could be imagination, delusion or fabrication.
And I simply don't buy the argument that 'the universe is so vast, they have to exist'. There is no logic in that reasoning!
I don't say it's not possible and I don't say they exist. It's possible, that's all.