Freedom decoded

The unbelievers are controlled by the liars.

The liars are controlled by those who believe in god.

God is free from control.

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The hierarchy

1) God (I am) (Disbelievers - Atheists)

2) Liars (Deceivers, deniers, Brainwashed, Media, money grubbers, corporations, people that like flashy trinkets and shiny baubles, stock dividends and free federal reserve money, worthless people who are ignorant and selfish, pigs, basically everyone)

3) Unbelievers (Ignorant, unwashed, unbrainwashed, malleable, afraid, worthless stupid people who use valuable resources and pollute the environment)

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Rise above the lies embrace atheism or (I am) as the truth.

Sanskrit: "Tat Tvam Asi" = "That you are" (I am)


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Where does your sanskrit quote originate, atheism?

God is OrderCharity.
God is Everlasting.

Void is Pride and Chaos.
Void is Void.

This world is in between Void and Everlasting and is temporal.

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In this world, freedom cannot be fully manifested.
There are two kinds of freedom. Independence, and Unity.

In Void, there is true Independence. This is what most people seek when they seek freedom.
In God, there is true Unity. This is what people seek when they seek Orderly Charity.

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In this world, understanding cannot be fully manifested.
There are two kinds of understanding. Belief, and Wisdom.

In Void, there is true Belief. This is what most people seek when they seek understanding.
In God, there is true Wisdom. This is what people seek when they seek Charitable Order.

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We Are because They Are.
Those who are not are not because they are not us, nor would they will to be.


Those who seek to be One (Unity) will be granted such Comfort.
Those who seek to be one (Independent) will be granted such loneliness.
Those who seek Truth (Wisdom) will be granted such Anointing.
Those who seek truths (Belief) will be granted such cloud of confusion.

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I caution you from believing that Independence is the same as Unity or that Belief is the same as Wisdom.


Or maybe I have misunderstood you.

Originally posted by halfoldman

Where does your sanskrit quote originate, atheism?

No it orginates from "I am"

en.wikipedia.org...

Actually, it is "That you are."

... Which I fully agree with. As I said above. In other words...
You will go where you set your eyes.

But as they say; Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

However, "That you are" differs greatly from the concept of "I am." While both are true, both do not speak of the same paradigm.

"That you are" can be said; You will go where you set your eyes. This is a metaphysical observation and declaration of who each person is based on processes, not a proper name or specific property.

"I am" can be said; I am Eternal, or I am Fullness, etc.
This can be confirmed by the sharing of other names/properties regarding the great "I Am." YHWH, Alpha and Omega, etc.

Originally posted by Dasher

I caution you from believing that Independence is the same as Unity or that Belief is the same as Wisdom.


Or maybe I have misunderstood you.

I think we are in agreement.

Chaos is freedom.

Order is truth.

Many prefer to lie and therefore they accept order.

A few prefer the truth and they gravitate towards chaos.

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Royspeed

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Your words are interesting. I am still not sure I fully understand what you are communicating. Can you please elaborate? Or maybe state the same things with alternate but equal words? Thanks in advance, I will check back in the morning.

Originally posted by royspeed
Just a quck question for the OP;

Just where do you get off branding all of those people that do not believe in religion as worthless, ignorant useless trash?

Your statement is an insult to me and millions of others, and it just proves my theory that organised religion has caused more conflict in this world than almost anything else in our history.

In case you missed it, I support chaos roy not organised religion. Organised religion is the work of those who are liars and those that desire to be under the control of liars.

I came about my belief that there is no god (Except the god of lies) by observing people. Most people are blithering idiots that can be easily manipulated by the use of lies and deceit.

These are the people that trully pose the greatest threat to freedom. The liars pose the lesser threat.

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I do agree. There is nothing useless. All things are an image of God in some way. Even in disbelief, ignorance, etc. All things are reconciled in time and Order AND Charity should be poured out from those who claim to be One with YHWHOrderCharity (Elohim who are one and perfect).


@all
Now this is VERY important...

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Consider, those spiritually weaker than you are an opportunity to breathe Order into this world. Consider, those spiritually stronger than you are an opportunity to inhale Order into this world.

Again I say,

Consider, those spiritually weaker than you are an opportunity to inhale Charity into this world. Consider, those spiritually stronger than you are an opportunity to inhale Charity into this world.
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Please read my posts very closely. You are "throwing the baby out with the bath water." I am fairly certain we are not saying similar things. Chaos and Pride are Void. Or are we understanding each other and Void is something you are satisfied by?

Regards until the morning then...

Originally posted by Dasher

... are we understanding each other and Void is something you are satisfied by?

There is nothing above me.

Am I satisfied with that?

Don't know that I am.

Am I disturbed by that?

At times I am.

I accept it as truth though.

I choose to yield authority of myself over to none.

Here is my question to you.

Why would you want to submit to someone else?

Order is control over people perpetrated by by liars.

Reject the liars and accept the truth.

Freedom without control is terrifying to most and that is why they accept lies as the truth.

Accept chaos as the ultimate truth.

The truth will set you free.

It will also scare the livin crap out of you.

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Originally posted by In nothing we trust
There is nothing above me.

Am I satisfied with that?

Don't know that I am.

Am I disturbed by that?

At times I am.

I accept it as truth though.

As you properly observed, you are setting your eyes on Chaos. Pride and Chaos have an end. If you set your eyes on Chaos, "that you are."

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Here is my question to you.

Why would you want to submit to someone else?

Order is control over people perpetrated by by liars.

That is not true. Order without Charity is Pride. You correctly abhor Pride.


OrderCharity are Everlasting.
It is easy to see that Order without Charity becomes Pride and is not Everlasting Order which is Charitable.
It is easy to see that Charity without Order becomes Chaos and is not Everlasting Charity which is Orderly.

I submit to the Creators who are perfect because I come from God spiritually. I understand that I came from the Void physically. I strive to live equally with my neighbors in the Temporal world which is not Eternal because of where I come from.

Void is opposite of Eternal.
Temporal is both Eternal, and Void. We are the paradox.
Eternal is opposite of Void.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Freedom without control is terrifying to most and that is why they accept lies as the truth.

Freedom without Order is Chaos and ends in Void.
Freedom without Pride is Charity and ends in Everlasting Unity.
Understanding without Charity is Pride and ends in Void.
Understanding without Chaos is Order and ends in Everlasting Anointing.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Accept chaos as the ultimate truth.

Chaos is a truth. Pride is a truth. OrderCharity is Truth Everlasting.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
There is nothing above me.

As there is pure Chaos and pure Pride below you, there is pure OrderCharity above you. Set your eyes on They Who Are Eternal and to Them you will return.




We are the paradox. Is it not easy to see? Perfection above, Darkness below, Lights and Shadows in this world. You will go where you set your eyes.

Originally posted by Dasher

Perfection above, Darkness below, Lights and Shadows in this world.

You will go where you set your eyes.

I am not from this world.

I will return from where I came.

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As I was before, I will be again.

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Into the void.


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