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I I were to create a fishtank and put fish in it. The fish would live perfectly in their world believing it to be the only thing, not knowing that it was engineered by us.
1) The big bang came into existence approximately 15 billion years ago. The universe is expanding as per Hubble's Law. Now let me ask you people does the rate of expansion of the universe significant? You bet. This has been calculated: If the rate of expansion were a millionth too fast, the density of the gases would not be sufficient for hydrogen to coalesce into Stars, and thus no life. If the rate were a millionth too slow, the universe would collapse back on itself too fast not allowing adequate time for life to evolve. What are the chances that the rate of expansion just happened to be precisely what was need for life...what are the chances?
2) We know that many planets have moons....what are the chances that the moon of a planet takes precisely the same angular measurement as its parent star...ie the sun is the same apparent size as the moon in our sky....hmmmm.....what are the chances.
3) We learned about the four fundamental fources in high school physics: gravity, strong, weak, and the electromagnetic force. The strong nuclear force (the force responsible for binding neutrons and protons together in the nucleus) is critical. If it were just 2% stronger, diprotons would be stable and hydrogen after fusion would create diprotons instead of helium and deuterium. What are the chances....
a - It is a universal solvent
b - Ice is less dense than liquid water enabling it float. If it did not float during cold, bodies of water would freeze...ice would sink and life in oceans would not be protected
c - Water has high surface tension. This is responsible for the capillary action required by plants to take in water. If it were not for its extraordinarily high surface tension, there would not be any plants
d - Water has unusually high specific heat value. This gives the ability for humans and animals or life in general to be able to store large quantities of heat.
e - Water has the HIGHEST KNOWN heat of vaporization of any substance. This makes it easy for use as a cooling mechanism for bodies.
So we see all these miraculous qualities for our benefit. I wonder who could have made it....hmmm......naaaaa couldnt be...? Coould it? Does a mouse know we created its maze?
You at this point must be thinking..The universe is just the way it is. Well so does the fish in the fish tank. It does not know we created its fish tank.
Originally posted by sirnex
If you were to take a species from another planet with a different atmospheric composition and of lower or higher pressure/gravity and place it on Earth, you'd possibly end up with them considering you were one evil SOB.
Originally posted by sirnex
Nah, it wasn't. Nothing miraculous about our universe, in fact it could be equally validly argued that the universe is more perfectly geared towards the creation of black holes.
Originally posted by sirnex
This is so ridiculously wrong ... Do you know anything about water or do you listen to the bible thumper's for all your 'knowledge'?
Originally posted by sirnex
Not even going to go there ...
Originally posted by sirnex
I'll tell you what ... Write out a working model and equation for how a fish tank full of water and fish can come together under the laws of physics as we know them to exist and then you might, might just be on to something!
I do have a BS in physics.
You have yet to disprove anything I have said.
If there is no chance then what is it?
What other species on another planet? See that is false science because there have not been any other species on a planet discovered as far as I know, yet we do know about the expansion of the universe.
Black holes will still be created if a variety of physical constants were varied, if the strong force were varied by 2% there will still be black holes, but not human beings.
Give an example of a substance with higher heat of vaposization and I will withdraw my statement of it being the highest. Until then I am correct.
What is it about my statement of the high specific heat of water that warrants "not even going to go there" Why dont you replace water in your body with liquid chlorine and see what happens.
I did not offer proof of god, just signs pointing towards it.
2. Redshift is constant and accurate as a measure of distance and velocity.
Scientists use it as the most accurately current known method.
3. Space is indeed expanding.
Hubbles Law
Accorinding to our current knowledge of science, there has not been life observed elsewhere. When we find it I will let you know.
Want to visit my school alumni page to see my degree? Its not 50 dollars...which is what your entire education was probably worth.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by sirnex
Black holes do not require specific atoms to form. It needs anything with mass, regardless of the form it has. Ever heard of neutron stars? Matter was formed at the time of the big bang. If the strong force were varied slightly, different nuclei would be formed, and yes black holes will still form, yet life would not evolve as we know it. That is fact.
The King James Bible aka Holy Scriptures' prophecies prove God is real.
Archaeology proves He is real.
Science proves He is real.
Near Death Experiences have proven
He is real.
The Holy Spirit, once you accept Jesus as
your Savior, proves there is a God.
Israel, and Biblical prophecy, certainly proves
He is real.
The discovery of the ancient cities of Sodom
& Gomorrah prove there is a God.
And the kicker - as the end days pass by, God
will be revealing Himself more and more to
mankind. He has given us prophecies as a way
for us to know He is real. If people are interested
they can verify all of the prophecies listed in the
Bible - and see which ones have been fulfilled
and which ones will be fulfilled soon. But God isn't
going to approach you first - we must seek Him
as He doesn't force Himself upon any of His
children.
- the Bible makes it clear that our only hope
out of this world is through His Son, Christ Jesus.
But it's up to each individual to take the initiative.
I merely feel that something started our creation, the "prime mover" not "god" religions take God as a nurisher who watches over us and guides us as we grow. But I believe we are to fend for ourselves so to speak and determine our own course of development.
Originally posted by slipknotrules2009
if thier was this so called invisable man (GOD) then he is not doing his job to let them do this to us instead of waiting for 7yrs to save us I believe the
revalation but GOD not really, besides if he is such a great person why did he kill over 10million people doesn't make any sense he loves us all until you don't follow his rules then he kills us, he only loves him self if thier is a god its an alien and just full of him self and wants us to worship him I won't worship either one of the losers unless I see god come down from heaven and not in a spaceship either he must just float down for me to believe fully in GOD other screw him becuase if he is going to send me to hell for taking a chip then **** him to he should be in hell for killing millions, I really believe god will be an alien.