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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by neformore
Yeah, I get it, you have a real biased attitude towards those take up activities you call hooligans.
I don't think anyone is glorifying the activity, it is primarily young men blowing off steam. There are far, far worse ways for young people to deal with the frustrations of living in a world they were not biologically designed to live in.
Guess what, the people who want to control other peoples behavior, especially young people trying to have some fun, do far more harm than the people they are trying to control. Far more people get their lives destroyed, hurt, and killed by those who want to dictate the lifestyle of others.
Originally posted by poet1b
I don't think anyone is glorifying the activity, it is primarily young men blowing off steam.
Yes, bystanders occasionally get hurt because someone gets out of hand, and it is not acceptable
the screens were brought down on purpose as far as im concerned, good wee exercise for Manchester Police, good chance to get some training, the riots were fuelled on purpose.
Fans of England's national team do hit the headlines more than any other after their violent clashes on the international stage.
Hooligans in the rest of Europe, by contrast, usually fight their battles at home, often expressing local, regional or subnational rivalries.
But fans from Germany, Holland, Belgium and elsewhere have been prepared to bury internal differences to battle it out with foreign fans and police on the pavements of European cities.
You don't have to be sociologist to understand that football hooliganism is a reflection of the violence and divisions prevalent in any society.
Peter Marsh of the Social Issues Research Centre in Oxford said: "If you had thousands of working-class males congregating on a Saturday afternoon, and there were no fights, that would be very surprising."
Where the phenomenon is at it worst - in the UK, Germany, Belgium, Holland and Italy - about 10% of games witness "serious incidents", according to researchers.
"Given all the attention paid to this small minority of English fans that occasionally causes trouble, violence of some kind is inevitable," Dr Marsh says.
It may be no coincidence, therefore, that the British tabloid press gives English hooligans massive coverage after games, as well as stoking up the atmosphere of xenophobia before them.
Right-wing groups who claim to oppose Islamic extremism are trying to provoke violence on Britain's streets, the communities minister has said.
Local Muslims and members of Unite Against Fascism (UAF) confronted protesters from Stop the Islamification of Europe and chased them away.
A minority of young Muslims then turned on police, throwing bricks, bottles and firecrackers.
Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by Freeborn
On another note i see that that Choudrey bloke has yet again promised mass murder here in England... How they continue to let him live here is beyond me....
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by Freeborn
On another note i see that that Choudrey bloke has yet again promised mass murder here in England... How they continue to let him live here is beyond me....
Can you find me a link please
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Originally posted by Selahobed
I fought for this country, its citizens, its values that this goverment has eroded again and again.