Watch: At forum, white man destroys black woman's Rosa Parks sign, woman is escored out

reply to post by upnorthtrip


The same thing I am now and what does your statement have to do with the topic that we are discussing?

Originally posted by upnorthtrip
I wonder what some of you would say if it was a black man doing this to a white woman.

I said in my first post I'd say the same thing. It doesnt matter what color you are, a man DOES NOT do this to a woman. Now, if a woman did this to her, I might think differently, but it would still be a little extreme. No one has the right to take and destroy someones property, even if its just a simple sign. If I witnessed a man of any color doing something violent or abusive to a woman of any color, he sure as hell would be in a world of hurt..

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The MSM didn't give the full story but then perhaps neither did that video. How do KNOW it was a Rosa Parks sign? What did it say? Why was the speaker going "maaaam.......maaaaaaaam", I am assuming that perhaps the speaker was addressing the woman with the sign somehow. Why would she do that? We still don't have the full story.

The guy grabbing her sign was an idiot IMO, and so are the people who cheered the woman's removal. Rural whites sure seem to have a chip on their shoulder these days, don't they? What's up with that?

reply to post by Leo Strauss


Calm down everyone and lets get this story straight.

A.) Rosa Parks has nothing to do with health care reform, making me suspect something.


B.) The man took the sign before he even saw it, indicating blatant racism.

C.) It is unknown if one, or both, of these people were planted.

D.) The cops removed the woman because they thought she was being aggressive. The other flag holders were standing and not doing anything. it was ignorance, not racism by the cops.

E.) WHO WAS THE GUY WHO STARTED IT?!


Answer those questions and the truth yee shall find.

reply to post by Leo Strauss


Well, That lady is owed a huge apology! Number one from the idiot who took her sign away from her and ripped it up. Number two from the stupid racist cops who were there apparently to keep the peace. Number three from the McCaskill woman who was at the podium speaking. The stupid cops should have dragged away the guy who grabbed her poster and started the whole thing. At least the guy holding the "Don't tread on me" sign tried to stand up for the lady. He even told the cop "this looks really bad" "people can have signs" But, in the video it makes him look like a criminal or something for being white and holding up his sign, while the cops attempted to harass him. The cops on the scene should be identified and charged with harassing the lady, as well as the scumbag who started the whole thing.

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edit: I'm dumb. Ijust realized I already posted here a few days ago! lol

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What the man did was stupid and inexcusable, period. That being said, why is he automatically assumed to be a "right wing, anti-health care Teabagger"? Who is James Winfrey, than man in question. Lets find that out first before we start to paint everyone who opposes this Health Care Bill in it's current form as racists. I oppose the bill in it's current from, yet I am not a racist. How is that possible? If you read the talking points and listen to MSM, I must be lying, never mind actually knowing me or talking to me.

It must be in everyone's playbook to smear and demonize the other side in this debate. Stop doing that, it's not helping the process. To paint everyone in who opposes the current health care bill as a racist is doing a disservice to all of us. Please stop. I'll debate anyone on the merits and demerits of health care reform, but if you just want to marginalize me by stereotyping me, you going to achieve the opposite result. Yes I am aware people on my side of the argument are doing the same thing. Does two wrongs somehow make it more acceptable. The validity of your argument should rest on the facts involving the health care debate, not calling the other side names.

What a retarded story.

Woman is unrolling what appears to be a large sign.

Stupid old guy rips sign from ladies hands.

The only thing people apparently saw at this point was the lady run across the aisle at the old man.

Lady gets tossed out.

Then they try and say it was a Libertarian conspiracy by saying the Don't Tread on Me Signs were not removed .. get the signs they were holding were about 8inches wide.

Had the Lady not ran at the Old Man, the Old Man probably would have been the one to get kicked out.

As it were, the Old Man should have been kicked out, but like all incidents like this that happen fast, people only saw the Ladies reaction.








Notice I left all aspects of race out of it.. and you can see how stupid the story is.

Now add race as a factor.. because God forbid something unfair happen to a black person .. I mean that's the end of the damn road right there, drop everything, we got racists on the loose! ..





It's getting old.

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
The guy that grabbed the sign was obviously in the wrong. But the lady knew damn well there was a no poster rule. She was the ONLY one in the entire audience that had a sign. I would have been pissed too at her. Come on! What the hell was she thinking? There was a no signs rule for a reason. A good one at that. Plus what the hell does Rosa Parks have to do with health care reform which I'm assuming was the point of the forum?

Did I miss something here? Where in the video did it show her holding up the sign?
The sign was rolled up neatly and quietly in the chair in front of her, a man walks up and inquires about it. She then unrolls it discretely and shows him, when another Man walks up out of nowhere and destroys something that belonged to her.

The only person that deserves their teeth kicked in, is the old man that destroyed her property. Talking about all this other B.S. is a waste of time.

Racism exists...it's not news anymore...never was. The media loves this stuff, why else do you think they show it?

And secondly, how could the man have possibly known it was a rosa parks poster if it was partially rolled up and he was approaching it at right angles?

Could it possibly be, that he was angry that a woman had a poster to begin with and perhaps she might have been talking in protest during the presentation?

I mean, put the pitch forks down, slow the hell down and let's look at this like intelligent human beings.

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Normally that would make sense. But the man was white.... the lady was black .......

Obviously racism.

White folk can't just go around being mean individuals when it involves other race.. other motives must be at play! ... Oh sure, he coulda just been an angry disgruntled old guy that even other white people tend to avoid...


But it doesn't sell advertising space...

reply to post by Rockpuck

Notice I left all aspects of race out of it.. and you can see how stupid the story is.

Yes, it is retarded, as you say. And the whole situation has nothing to do with race per se. But, the way those cops rushed toward that woman who did absolutely nothing wrong, and dragged her out of the place, kind of makes me think that their attitude may have been slightly tilted by "race". The cops should have dragged out the scumbag who started the whole thing. Maybe they didn't see him, maybe they did, it's hard to tell with the cops these days. I'm really shocked that nobody got tasered.

reply to post by juzchilln

I mean, put the pitch forks down, slow the hell down and let's look at this like intelligent human beings.

The only intelligent human beings I saw in that video were the woman being hauled out of the place for doing nothing, and the guy holding the little "Don't Tread on Me" banner. He even told the cop, "This looks really bad".

As already mentioned there was a rule stating no posters allowed.

Also the man was removed as well.


Thanks, for making this into something it was not.

Blasted whites always doing stupid things, after all it is only whites and those who are not in agreement with Obama that are the real problem

Edit to add: The woman had already been asked to put the sing away. She was getting it out again to show a reporter who wanted to see it.

Raist

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I think we need to focus on the sign here.

Why did she have a Rosa Parks sign?

I am not grasping the connection to Obamacare here.

reply to post by ashnomadonte


I couldn't find where the guy was taken away in your link. I had to click on the story so maybe I didn't see the same one you were actually linking. Either way It didn't say he was taken out.

It did say she was holding the sign up as she walked into the event and the crowd was yelling. Who knows what she was doing at that point. All of these things are always taken out of context, always.

The guy acted like a dumb"donkey" either way. She had already put the sign away and he couldn't put his anger away.

His fault, regardless of color.

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


Its not that confusing. Everyone in here has said race and/or rosa parks has nothing to do with healthcare. Obviously she saw some symbolism in it or something. As far as the guy who said everyones blasting whites. Calm down, I hardly see anyone blasting whites. As far as Obama, I dont see much people here in agreement with Obama, including me,

No one has said anything about white people from the posts I've read.

Inmy comments all I said was a man doing this to a women is innapproiate. Which it is, if you disagree you are a d bag. I'd say the exact same thing about a black man angrily ripping up a white womans sign. Its innapropriate. Even if it was a woman that was the one that did this, its still wrong, you dont lay your hands on peoples property adn destroy it. Its not yours to destroy.



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Situation:

Police react to what looks like a potentially volatile situation. Take away BOTH perpetrators.

More video is shown of officers not reacting to persons merely holding up signs, showing no sign of aggressive actions.

Result:

People form their own opinions, based on their biases and prejudices.

The situation has nothing to do with race. But thank you all who got pulled into the nonsensical fray.

I posted about this incident on another ATS thread (don't remember which one).

I actually heard this woman speak about the incident on the news.

She was told no signs were allowed and would need to keep her sign rolled up. She did. A reporter asked to see her sign (don't remember what that was about or why she said she use Rosa Parks.) She showed it.

During the Town Hall, the old man walked up, took her poster and tore it up. (I saw the video of this on the news from over head.) The woman got up to confront him. Police approached her stating, "Ma'am, we can no longer guarantee your safety here. We urge you to leave." (not verbatim)

She was escorted out. HE was arrested for assault.

edit for clearing up the rule..

there was a no poster rule being enforced..while I wouldnt have let that guy touch me or anything I had, the lady was clearly in the wrong for having the poster...maybe she had already been warned and thats why it was rolled up...

but fair is fair...if others were allowed, then she shouldnt have been removed..jus tthe jackass that decided to take things into his own hands...



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