Swine Flu Vaccines Released!

Volunteers roll up sleeves for first swine flu jabs

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SEATTLE - As an infectious disease specialist, Dr. Warren Dinges is only too aware of looming worries about swine flu this fall.

"It's clearly a threat and a problem," he said.

So on Friday, the 41-year-old Seattle internist stripped off his shirt and bared his left arm to become one of the first people in the nation immunized against the novel HIN1 influenza virus.

Dinges was among a handful of people nationwide to receive the first jabs in clinical trials aimed at assessing the safe

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Now that the first round of Swine Flu vaccines have been deployed to the health care providers, a few questions have popped up for me. I throw them out there in the hopes that the knowledgeable ATS'ers will be able to provide information to a pandemic I didn't or don't see coming.

-IS this a pandemic in the making or just a scare tactic for some other purpose?
-With 2800 people getting them, will that be enough of a "test group" to work out any bugs?
-How soon would you get this vaccine if it was made optional?

If anyone knows how this H1N1 Swine Flu is different then the flu that is experienced every year, please provide that explanation. I would be extremely curious to read any information you have as I can't find how this Swine Flu is a pandemic in the making.

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If one is to believe the official opinion of Swine Flu, it is dangerous in as much as it is capable of mutating far quicker than the regular flu viruses we experience every year.

In addition, if it comes into contact with the Avian Flu virus, it certainly has the potential to become devastating to the population of the planet as a whole.

Other than those points, the Swine Flu virus is "expected" to come back with a vengeance in the Autumn months, along with the usual upsurge in normal seasonal flu viruses.
That, of course, allows for a greater chance of a mutation.

Personally, I am suspicious of this vaccine.

I would be suspicious of every medical intervention provided under such hurried and dramatic circumstances.

I intend to follow my gut on this one, and I won't be volunteering to have any vaccine unless a person close to me becomes seriously ill. Then I'll perhaps consider it.
Until then, I'll keep washing my hands, I'll continue to be vigilant, and do what I can to keep my immune system in good shape.

And if it becomes mandatory, I'll be one of the ones on the front line protesting against my nanny-state government and everything they stand for.

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I couldn't agree with you more and find that the more I hear about it, the more I am not so sure that I will be in any hurry to get this vaccine. I have been blasted by others on here for stating that I wouldn't allow my kids to get the vaccine either. Perhaps I would feel safer once they gave it to my mother-in-law for testing...

I will have to ask a friend who works in the medical field if he had to get the shot and is thoughts. While he is a ped doc, he should still know the ins/outs of this.

-IS this a pandemic in the making or just a scare tactic for some other purpose?
-With 2800 people getting them, will that be enough of a "test group" to work out any bugs?
-How soon would you get this vaccine if it was made optional?

1 - According to the WHO is it a pandemic. However, one has to be circumspect about accepting that the WHO is an apolitical body devoted to the improvement of the human condition. Many, MANY, seem to have evidence that they are not; it is frequently alleged that they are lead and motivated for the most part by capitalistic exploitation and no small degree of ideological bias. - I'll leave the research to you.

2 - 2800 people might be a statistically significant test group but TIME is the key here. In other words, if these 2800 are side-effect free for the next 6-10 months, that means it safe? I don't think so. Some may decide otherwise. Frankly, the ad hoc addition of other 'unapproved' and 'untested' substances in the vaccine clinch it for me; no way am I getting exposed to something that could affect me the same way some prior Swine Flu vaccine recipients were affected. (check the records for the mid 1970's for how many were crippled or died.)

3 - If it was made optional? 2012.

Do you trust DynCorp?

That's like trusting Blackwater to administer you a vaccine.

The adjuvant 'squalene' that is used in this vaccine is the same one that caused Gulf War Syndrome in a lot of our troops. Only the troops that were injected with the anthrax vaccine came down with the GWS. It is an ingredient used in THIS vaccine as well. I think parents who know this should be held criminally liable for any children receiving this poison. And why do pharmaceutical companies want to sell all these vaccinations? I wouldn't think that they were just mean, but I KNOW they are greedy! In all fairness, millions of people, 20% of populations, died from flu and other pandemics. And they are saying they are afraid of it happening again, but on a much larger population. Keep a good watch on what you put in your mouth, avoid places like hospitals, and get plenty of sleep. Americans especially are notorious for not getting adequate sleep. The human adult needs eight hours, or a little less. And you need SUN exposure! And you neednt worry about any flu.

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It’s true the virus is spreading.

Much more important, however, is the fact that reported cases continue to be symptomatically mild, requiring little or no medical intervention. And deaths from the H1N1 virus remain extremely low, at less than one half of one percent of reported cases as of July 6.[1]

Why do we need this "vaccine" again?

Criminal charges against Novartis to be filed in Europe soon

August 11, 2009 by JB

Charges of mass murder and conspiracy to commit genocide on a global scale by means of vaccines classified as bioweapons are to be filed against Novartis in Poland and Switzerland shortly.

Jane's Blog

I do believe this vaccine is a very bad thing. Oil and mercury should not be ingested IMO. I don't trust Baxter, Novartis, WHO, Obama, Rockefeller etc., that are named in her lawsuit. It's all there for the reading.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
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Do you trust DynCorp?

That's like trusting Blackwater to administer you a vaccine.

Seriously, how you (americans) could skip a man like this to be your president ???
Its beyond my mind.
Thanks for the video.