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Originally posted by SPC_D
Originally posted by wantsome
yellowcard
I don't know where you get your numbers from but the national debt is only 11 trillion. I highly doubt medicaid debt surpasses the national debt.
And no I'm not saying "everythings bad for me so screw everyone else". Some of you right wingers are so afraid someones gonna take the cookie out of your hand.
This is one of the richest nations on this earth and we should be able to provide reasonable and affordable healthcare to all. Not just the one that can afford it.
Well first off what if I don't want health care? Ever think of those people? The people that would just rather pay out of pocket for it? Or people that don't want to be tied down to one heath care provider.
And I worked hard for my Cookie! Why the hell should I share it if I don't want to?
[edit on 7-8-2009 by SPC_D]
Originally posted by wantsome
Can you blame them for shutting them out? Have you seen the stunts these people are pulling in front of cameras? They're all zombies of Fox news and Rupert Murdoch's propaganda machine.
Originally posted by yellowcard
Originally posted by Uniceft17
reply to
[edit on 8/7/2009 by Uniceft17]
These Congressman/Senators have already made up their mind, if you actually READ what they are saying, or listen, the Congressmen have clearly said they will only vote for the bill if it includes a "public option." That is NOT a debate, you claim the mob doesn't listen and just yells, the Representatives of these people won't listen to them, wouldn't you be pretty pissed off? They are called Representatives for a reason. While I think some of these protesters are ill informed, I highly doubt even the Declaration of Independence or Constitution were written with 100% civility, I'm quite sure (I know for a fact) they were conducted over debate, some which were not quiet. They used to duels you know...
[edit on 7-8-2009 by yellowcard]
Originally posted by jibeho
If I ran into those SEIU idiots there would have been trouble. That union is doing just what Obama called for in his White House blog. This behavior by a President is unheard of and is a travesty of our freedoms in this country.
Obama is sending a clear message not to mess with him or else. The use of ACORN foot soldiers like these is criminal. Obama is indeed a fascist dictator. He says jump and these idiots ask how high. Reminds of the New Black Panther voter intimidation case in Philly.
The people raising their voices are people my parents age. They have worked hard their entire lives to build up what is now a depleted retirement savings. They are afraid!! and rightfully so. You back them into a corner and there will be trouble and I will defend them to no end.
These people sat peacefully through the riots and protests of the Hippie generation. They watched as the long haired freaks invaded their towns. Now, it is their turn to speak their minds.
The nation is fed up with direction of this country and with its leadership. It is time to clean house. Time to oust your career representatives and senators in 2010 and 2012
FOX NEWS is the only people telling you this... the health care bill isn't even written yet and nothing you said above is in this legislation
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
DEMS SNEAK UNION THUGS INTO CARNAHAN TOWN HALL-- Tea Party Taxpayers Locked Out!
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by yellowcard
Sorry... and anyway, now that the opposing side realizes what is going on and is taking action people are crying foul?
They should have been crying foul to begin with.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by jimmyx
FOX NEWS is the only people telling you this... the health care bill isn't even written yet and nothing you said above is in this legislation
Well, if it isn't even written yet, just how can it be defended as a good thing?
Originally posted by Hazelnut
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by yellowcard
Sorry... and anyway, now that the opposing side realizes what is going on and is taking action people are crying foul?
They should have been crying foul to begin with.
So Hunka. Nana-nana boo-boo is your only intellectual response? C'mon you can do better than that. Your theories and imaginings are losing their grip my friend. Just because you choose not to hear the cries of "FOUL" doesn't mean they haven't been echoing across this nation for a looooooooooooong time.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by HunkaHunka
Even if what you say is true, which is highly doubtful I might add, they still have a right to speak to their representatives and have their questions and concerns addressed.
If you really want to be so blind and pretend everyone is a part of the obcene and mindless two party charade system that is your right as a brainwashed American/Socialist/Communist.
There are though lots of people who do not belong to any party, do not vote Democrat or Republican that still are CITIZENS and still DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF GOVERNMENT IN THE HEALTH CARE BUSINESS.
Only a fool or a very evil person would claim that no one has a legitimate concern or greivance
and that it is all simply about two party politics in a shallow and transparent attempt to dismiss all dissent and potential better ideas along with it.
Two heads are better than one, and three heads are better than two...According to the Greeks who invented Democracy it works best when as many people speak to the issues as humanly possible.
How is it you think Democracy works best when only a 'select' group of people are 'allowed' to speak to the issues, and only along narrowly 'defined' parametors, and only in support of the Government and the ruling party?
That sounds like tyranny to me, not democracy.
It says a lot that the ideas and notions going into these bills are so faulty and frail that the people who authored them and support them are AFRAID to speak to people who have INTELLIGENT questions about them.
ALL Americans should have a right to be heard, America is not just for Kenyans!