White House Calls for Citizens to Inform on Opponents of Obamacare

I dunno, maybe I'm just being apathetic but I'm not alarmed by this.
I see this as the White House version of Snopes, but with their spin on it. I doubt there will be lists of 'dissenters', just more spin. Just as it's always been it will be mine and yours and everyone elses job to sort through all the info to get to the truth, and this is just another info source with an agenda to sort through.

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"Either a newbie, in which case his actions are somewhat acceptable, since he may not be familiar with the T&C "

I am new. How exactly am I violating any T&C?

It's quite well known that republicans/conservatives are the major roadblock to health-care reform.

reply to post by jsobecky


I'll pass on formulating my opinions based on a faith-based blog.

Here's a fact for you --> www.youtube.com...

reply to post by km1550

Roadblock only in that they are not willing to just roll over and accept that everything is as it's said to be.

C'mon, so if a person does not agree with or has some serious questions regarding the spending of over a trillion dollars...we're roadblocks?!?

how about fiscal conservatives, since your so hellbent on labeling anyone who questions...

If my wife came to me (and thats how I see it, like a marriage, we are all partners in this thing we call democracy) and said we need a trillion dollar car...damn right I would ask..
A) whats wrong with the old one that can't be fixed?
B) why does this model cost a trillion $$
C) Who the hell is goiing to pay for it?!?

reply to post by jsobecky


There is this now too. A new DNC ad that targets American's 1st amendment rights.



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reply to post by deadbang


"C'mon, so if a person does not agree with or has some serious questions regarding the spending of over a trillion dollars...we're roadblocks?!?

how about fiscal conservatives, since your so hellbent on labeling anyone who questions... "

I just don't understand where all this "fiscal concern" was while Bush poured trillions of dollars into the war machine.

"A) whats wrong with the old one that can't be fixed? "

Someone's health care should not be dependent on someone else's profit margin.

"B) why does this model cost a trillion $$ "

Personally, when it comes to another human's well-being, I don't care how much it costs. I certainly am not going to let someone else's greed influence my humanity.

"C) Who the hell is goiing to pay for it?!? "

Taxes, of course, and the profits that now go to the insurance industry.

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So citizens exercising their first amendment rights by calling the Republican party and complaining is now an attack on their first amendment rights?

reply to post by NoArmsJames


Yes, attacking certain Americans as some kind of domestic terrorist mob out to destroy the country is. Since when has it been ok for the white house and a political party to target certain segments of the population like this, simply for disagreeing wit their polices? Bush never once went after his critics and you all despised him. Now you have no problem with the government singeing out Americans as angry mobs, simply for disagreeing with policy.

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"Bush never once went after his critics "

Untrue. Valerie Plame is but one.

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation.

Since when disinformation is same thing as opponents?? Disinformation is information that is not correct.. This doesnt mean "Tell us the guys that dont want.. We will out him in jail"

This means "Tell us the information that seems contradictory, so we can debunk it".. Just like the "fight the smears" campaign..

Ive tell over and over i dont like Obama.. But dont read beyond what is written..

P.S. - No.. I didnt read all the thread

reply to post by km1550


Not true. Richard Armitage accidentally leaked her name and admitted to it long ago. The media just didn't care.



I stand by my original statement. Obama as gone after virtually ever single one of his critics.

-Kramer
-Rush
-Santelli

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Bush was behind it, just like he was behind the attorney firings.

Originally posted by km1550
reply to post by Bugsmasher

 

"We have the best hospitals and health care in the world..."

That is nonsense, and you have no ability to substantiate such nonsense. Tell me then, why are people dying because they can't afford coverage?

I'll pass on formulating my opinions based on a faith-based blog.

Are you a republican, or do you work in the health/pharma industry?

Are you a liberal, or do you work in the Ovomit administration.

Is Stanford University good enough for you?

Stanford University

You also mentioned about people dying because they can't afford coverage. Look, any system will have people who fall through the cracks. I'm sure that it is a very tiny amount of people who are dying because they don't have coverage. However, in a socialist healthcare system even more people die due to the government rationing care and not allowing certain procedures to be done because of age or other conditions.

Read the link: Stanford University

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reply to post by WhatTheory


"Ovomit administration"

That about said it for me. But your signature finished it.

Nationalism is a cancer.

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However, in a socialist healthcare system even more people die due to the government rationing care and not allowing certain procedures to be done because of age or other conditions.

Its to debunk stuff like this that those campaigns are done! I live on a country with a National Health Care System (not single player), and that DOES NOT happen!!

You know some years ago there was saying that communists eat children at breakfast.. This is the same type of disinformation (disclaimer: im not defending communism.. im just for the TRUTH).

You could argue stuff like higher taxes and such.. that would be legit.. put saying crap like that.. its just disinfo really..

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Originally posted by km1550
reply to post by WhatTheory

 

"Ovomit administration"

That about said it for me. But your login account finished it.

Nationalism is a cancer.

So you did NOT read the link.

Or did you and realize you have no response to the truth so instead you criticize. Sad, just sad.

Boy, you are fast to mention and have problems with my description of the Ovomit administration, meanwhile you spew hatred, criticize everyone who disagrees with you and demonize everyone who is not a liberal. Oh, the irony and hypocrisy. Get some thicker skin. I see...you can dish it out but cannot take it.

Originally posted by Picao84
Its to debunk stuff like this that those campaigns are done! I live on a country with a National Health Care System (not single player), and that DOES NOT happen!!

Am I supposed to take your word for it.
Sorry, but I will take the word of practically every report that is done which compares the two systems.

I guess you are another one who did not read the link.
Trying reading the link first and tell me what is inaccurate before spewing nonsense.

Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by Picao84
Its to debunk stuff like this that those campaigns are done! I live on a country with a National Health Care System (not single player), and that DOES NOT happen!!

Am I supposed to take your word for it.

Sorry, but I will take the word of practically every report that is done which compares the two systems.

I guess you are another one who did not read the link.

Trying reading the link first and tell me what is inaccurate before spewing nonsense.

And i take the WORLD I LIVE IN for any report!!! I experience it.. and that link does not say the BS you wrote.. It says that USA is not that bad in health care.. FINE! I dont care! Just quit the BS!

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I do not wish to discuss anything with you. I find your profile, signature, and ideology offensive.

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Apparently, this might not even be legal.

www.redstate.com...

According to 5 U.S.C. § 552a, United States agencies, including the Executive Office of the President shall, “maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity.”