A new Civil War?

Does anyone think that there will be a new Civil War. Not north or south, but rich against poor? Maybe not so much of a civil war but a revolution. With all the srtife amongst the government and out of control spending. Obama breaking promises and showing more and more his socialist attitude twords the middle and lower class are we headed for disaster?

First rule of a civil war
"you don't talk about civil war"

I think our second civil war here in the US will be more like something along the lines of the 1936 - 39 Spanish Civil War with the far left against the far right. Although it will be Republicans (the far right) vs Democrats (the far left) instead of Republicans (Communists) vs Nationalists (Fascists) as it was in Spain.

That being said, any such war would be pointless as the Republicans are guaranteed to win due to them having the support of most of the military and law enforcement agencies and 90%+ of the gunowners in the US. Sorry Democrats.

reply to post by ChrisF231

i agree i think the libs would be given a beat down and deported to Canada.

Originally posted by JulieMills
reply to post by ChrisF231

 

i agree i think the libs would be given a beat down and deported to Canada.

Well at least you guys will have three or for bands worth of music and ten Bill O books and maybe "Mommy there are liberals under the bed" Very creative folks indeed!

The most important part will be confirming that the world is 6,000 years old...

The US can use some straight up fascism!

Have fun!



[edit on 9-7-2009 by mental modulator]

If this is a serious topic then I'll give a serious answer. Yes, but in pockets...unless the congress and the military remove the administration together. Otherwise there will be no revolution, and the ultra liberal left, who are in power now will delcare martial law, and there it will remain indefinately.

"once you become violent they know how to deal with you." --John Lennon.

reply to post by celticdragon23


why is this in breaking political news? should be in general conspiracies or something?

I was expecting a news article about some brave souls starting the ball rolling but alas it was not to be...

Originally posted by JulieMills
First rule of a civil war
"you don't talk about civil war"

Looks to me that you never participated in one...

I did.

Let me tell you few real "rules" of Civil War:

Too many innocent people die.

It quickly becomes territorial B.S. and flavored with race and religion crap. The worst of the worst pop their ugly heads up and take advantage of the situation in no time turning people into mindless sheep (not that they are not normally like that anyways, lol)

Ideals it starts with are not necessarily the ones which are going to win in the end. Those who start it might easily end up being executed at the end ...

When ya all start fighting among yourself you become an easy target for other countries to attack, especially the ones who think our nuclear arsenal could fall in the wrong hands.

Did I forgot to mention that too many innocent people die ?

What the hell happened to democracy ???

I always thought that in democracy minority is to suppose to respectfully bow to majority and accept that majority decides course of the society (yep, even if that means socialism) and the only way to change that is to work on peaceful way to sway opinion of that same majority and get your ideas through ?

Or ya all have "vision" of some other kind of "democracy" I never heard of before ?

Please, do tell, what that new "flavor" of democracy should be ?

I'm all ears, lol

reply to post by Xtinguish


Soooooooooooo TRUE

There are so many better ways to accomplish the things you want...

I was on a tirade about how the "Elite" are just people too most of them not even involved and that killing brothers is just an insanity the other day...

56% of us in America voted lat election

Of that maybe 5% were actually involved in the run offs for who got to run...

Amazing how we can't get up off our rear ends to actually put forward a candidate we LIKE... be involved, particularly locally

But... grab a gun on the way to the supermarket and blow away a few cops with families that are only doing a job a job you CAN change, people claim they have the free time for that

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Don't get me wrong, I am a big second amendment guy. Take up arms against enslavement? I sure as hell will, but we aren't there yet. This IS still America. Can the American people still get out of this without violence? Of course. We still have an electoral process we can use. People just need to wake up, and if anything violence will shut them down even more.

I think if you asked the true power behind the NWO who was their biggest threat they would say people like John Lennon, Dr. King, JFK, and the scores of other peaceniks that all shared a similar fate.

Originally posted by Xtinguish
"once you become violent they know how to deal with you." --John Lennon.

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
If this is a serious topic then I'll give a serious answer. Yes, but in pockets...unless the congress and the military remove the administration together. Otherwise there will be no revolution, and the ultra liberal left, who are in power now will delcare martial law, and there it will remain indefinately.

Autowrench: The first quote I am in full agreement with, violence is never the answer. There are better ideas, here is one I am aware of right now:

Robs Very Cunning Plan
forum.worldfreemansociety.org...
Robs Very Cunning Plan Takes Shape
forum.worldfreemansociety.org...

And why not? We all know the New World Order, their plans, their agendas, their poisons.....
we can see them clearly. Choices are few, fight or flight is the order of the day, and the news is all lies. So what does a red blooded American citizen do? What if there was a way to infiltrate TPTB so hard, and with such a force that we defeat them without firing a shot. We do it by forming our own Society, apart from the Law Society where all of our lawyer political minions sit in power and where all our "statutes" and "ordinances" originate from. You know the ones who tell us what to do, and threaten with military force anyone who opposes them, the one who fluoridate our drinking water, and poison our "diet foods/drinks." The control us with many things, if one is awake, they can see this clearly. Love and Light to all.

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by JulieMills
reply to post by ChrisF231

 

i agree i think the libs would be given a beat down and deported to Canada.

Well at least you guys will have three or for bands worth of music and ten Bill O books and maybe "Mommy there are liberals under the bed"

Very creative folks indeed!

The most important part will be confirming that the world is 6,000 years old...

The US can use some straight up fascism!

Have fun!



[edit on 9-7-2009 by mental modulator]

Fascism, no!

And books and rock bands are as deep as you go on thinking through the nation's issues and problems?

But a return to the conservative values and beliefs that made this country strong economically and militarily might be just what the U.S. needs. And I'm not talking Bush here. Liberals today have to admit that Kennedy and Roosevelt would not recognize what you are calling the "democratic party".

[edit on 7/9/2009 by centurion1211]

reply to post by celticdragon23


of course we do, in particular research (the debunked) john titor saga here and online.

havenots outnumber the haves by about 300:1

gunowners vs. nongunowners is the likely scenario.

The military would eventually be wiped out by 80 million gunowners

(holding near 300 million weapons) due to statistics alone.

Gettysburg 2 is only a matter of 25% unemployment, or a natural

catastrophe, or economic/ military war with another superpower....

reply to post by 5thElement


You are indeed worthy of the title 5th element, FANTASTIC summary, better than mine.

All revolutions result in unacceptable numbers of innocent lives lost.

NO revolution in history - not even our own - stayed true to the original
intents. Our First continental congress took years to get the constitution right, not to mention years to elect good ol (freemason) GW.

We SHOULD NOT EVER look forward to revolution, not even the heavily armed crowd.

peace

reply to post by 5thElement


You are indeed worthy of the title 5th element, FANTASTIC summary, better than mine.

All revolutions result in unacceptable numbers of innocent lives lost.

NO revolution in history - not even our own - stayed true to the original
intents. Our First continental congress took years to get the constitution right, not to mention years to elect good ol (freemason) GW.

We SHOULD NOT EVER look forward to revolution, not even the heavily armed crowd.

peace

I think for a revolution to really take place we will have to turn ourselves into terrorists and this is exactly they hope and expect.. As scary as that sounds it's the truth. There needs to be a very powerful, very secret group of highly trained people willing to "get these people out of office". This group of Robin Hood's so to speak will need to have people in very high places defending them and manipulating the law in order for them to be successful and get away with what they do. The American people need to start constructing their own "CIA" if you will. A large scale revolution will be suicide.

Americans need to remember that real change comes at the end of the barrel of a gun or the swing of a fist. TPTB do not operate by society's laws. Therefore those laws themselves need to be side stepped. Violence is the only way to incite change, real change. If you don't believe that you don't live in the real world.

I can't believe some of the comments here; civil war is one of the most horrendous and cruel forms of war. Don't believe me, do some research on the former Yugoslavia. Every atrocity imaginable occurred with every psychopath rising to the occasion. It is nothing like defending your country from invasion or a war abroad.

You don't like the government, vote them out. Even if the parties are the same, individual egos still want their jobs. Start at a local level and campaign for what you want in your community.

Originally posted by JulieMills
First rule of a civil war
"you don't talk about civil war"

my new favorite quote! Spit coke all over my keyboard.

Really though, why not hang an "arrest me first" sign on your door?

Im a mom with three kids and I dont want Civil War or Revolution but with the direction things are going it just has me wondering if the violence willbecome unavoidable?