Saudis Behead, Crucify Convicted Child Molester, Murderer

Originally posted by redhead57
To fotsyfots
"i suggest burying them head first to the waist(with a dirty pigs gut crafted breathing snorkel)& then stone the **cking bejallah out of them.I'd bet a weeks wages after say 12 months the stats would be reading waaay lesser."

As much as I detest child molesters I have to ask you this question....Do you sit up late at night and devise these punitive scenarios? A mind that comes up with such a sick idea must be a bit twisted.

[edit on 5/31/2009 by redhead57]

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See this is what I hate ... people crying for justice and then being so vicious like that.

The fact the majority of people think that way disturbs the crap out of me. I mean most people are not child molesters but most people would love to brutally tear child molesters to shreds for a living.

Originally posted by redhead57
To fotsyfots
"i suggest burying them head first to the waist(with a dirty pigs gut crafted breathing snorkel)& then stone the **cking bejallah out of them.I'd bet a weeks wages after say 12 months the stats would be reading waaay lesser."

As much as I detest child molesters I have to ask you this question....Do you sit up late at night and devise these punitive scenarios? A mind that comes up with such a sick idea must be a bit twisted.

[edit on 5/31/2009 by redhead57]

[edit on 5/31/2009 by redhead57]

Ha no not at all it just came to me in aflash after i reread the post from the member seemingly upset that this scum wasnt understood & the poor chaps that commit this INDEFENSIBLE attrocity to a fricking CHILD(not to mention the killing of the kid & THEN his ol' man)should be studied & learned from.WTF is that about?????The courts have gotta do something right?If 99% reoffence rate sounds like the message is getting through to the rockys in your eyes i suggest researching where that 1% end up.-clue-Dead men dont rape.....kiddies.
cheers

Originally posted by Donnie Darko

Originally posted by redhead57
To fotsyfots
"i suggest burying them head first to the waist(with a dirty pigs gut crafted breathing snorkel)& then stone the **cking bejallah out of them.I'd bet a weeks wages after say 12 months the stats would be reading waaay lesser."

As much as I detest child molesters I have to ask you this question....Do you sit up late at night and devise these punitive scenarios? A mind that comes up with such a sick idea must be a bit twisted.

[edit on 5/31/2009 by redhead57]

[edit on 5/31/2009 by redhead57]

See this is what I hate ... people crying for justice and then being so vicious like that.

The fact the majority of people think that way disturbs the crap out of me. I mean most people are not child molesters but most people would love to brutally tear child molesters to shreds for a living.

For a living????????Mate id sign up as a farkin' volunteer on that gig.
cheers

Originally posted by harrytuttle
The child victim was a boy. Had the child been a girl, the Saudis probably would have convicted HER of seducing a married man and either stoned her to death or given her 200 lashes.

But don't take my word for it, read it for yourself:
13 year old rape victim stoned to death
19 year old gang rape victim sentenced to 200 lashes in Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia: 23 year old rape victim gets 1 year prison sentence + 100 lashes
17 year old Iraqi girl executed for being seen with a man she wasn't married to

How come you are combing for news from different parts of the world to make your case? This article is about Saudi. Why don't you include state sanctioned white sex slaves in Israel, the discrimination and harassment of women in the US by the authorities?

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Computer repairs uncover child porn

It was only when Bill Surkis sent his computer to a repair shop to check for a virus that police were notified of suspicious videos on his hard drive. Based on that evidence, the former regional director of B'nai Brith in Quebec was charged yesterday with two counts relating to the possession and accessing of child pornography between July and November 2008. Surkis, 69, who was also the academic dean of John Abbott College for 22 years, and the executive director of the Holocaust Memorial Centre, spent the night in jail before being released with a long list of conditions yesterday afternoon.

montreal.ctv.ca...

Send the dirty creep to Saudi. They know how to deal with these perverts.

I'm pro-death penalty but the veracity of that sentence and how it was carried out is excessive. The collective sanity of a culture is seen in how they carry out law and torturing a condemned person speaks volumes about how sick and inhumane they really are. Remember, this is the same culture that chops limbs off of children who steal food and murders women for having premarital sex. It galls me that such a revolting and backward culture has the balls to describe the west as "degenerate."

reply to post by clcreek


I agree too scary and too many mistakes could be made and I'm not so sure that innocent people wouldn't be killed but having said that....I think that the death penalty should be mandatory for convicted child molesters...more so than homicide. This is the worst crime of all. Child molesters should be sentenced to death..those convicted of homicide should merely be given life in prison.

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I think that instead of doing all those inhumane tests on animals, we should use proven murderers and paedophiles and the like. People will bark on about human rights but these types of criminals don't care about human rights so why should they be given that protection. Punishment should fit the crime I think.

reply to post by obeah6

Drug trials and scientific testing is carried out under very specific sets of protocol including choosing subjects who match the physical specifications of the treatment being tested. Testing a treatment for ovarian cancer on a man or a prostate drug on a woman obviously won't work and yes, that is Nazi era stupidity that has also taken place in American culture. Ever hear of the Tuskegee Experiment?
It gets much more specific when you are dealing with pharmaceutical drugs which can get DNA- or brain-cell specific like anti-depressants or certain diseases like Tay-Sachs which are found in gene isolates.

At any rate, you do know that nearly 90 percent of American prisoners are incarcerated for non-violent economic and drug-related crimes? The old argument about making murders and rapists pay for their crimes just doesn't apply.

Originally posted by Remixtup
a million justified scenarios? PLEASE!!!! just ./leave if were all so shameful.. my god I cant understand the mentality of some.

Dito, same on this side.

Thank g*d i know this site is filled with reasonable people who know what kind of point i'm trying to make here......

If you had been paying attention to what i'm posting you would have noticed that i'm not defending nor convicting anybody. It's all the thick-heads that start to cry "death" based on a small article which gets me going.

If it is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that this man was guilty than by all means kill him if those are the laws of the land. I do not agree with the death penalty but if you life in a country that does have the death penalty and you commit a crime which could put you in that position, i couldn't care less.

In my train of logic killing a man because a man was killed and call it justice is a weird way of thinking but hey i'm dutch, what can you do???

The fact that you people are actually capable of beheading a man and torturing his corps based on a one-sided story is something i cannot understand. (with this statement i asume that all the people shouting this was justice would have been standing in the crowd themselfs if it were in their community)

I have no idea how the justice system in Saudi Arabia is and how trustworthy the evidence was. But you people seems to have no need for these facts....

Can all of those who are crying out so loud and proud that justice was done here elaborate on the Saudi justice system and possible corruption and so on and so forth.......

all in all a lot of factors which i cannot account for and i could not an would not want to say that justice has been done......

Peace

[edit on 31/5/2009 by operation mindcrime]

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Wow, they would never make that much of a fuss over him if molested and killed an 11-year-old-girl and her mother. He was only punished because he killed two men.

Those of you in this thread with such bloodlust scare me. I'm all for punishing people but killing them?

As others have asid, what about the falsly convicted people? Do we just apologise to their families and say "our bad" and carry on with life?

What about criminals who turn their lives around and change? They do exist you know. If we kill them we never get the chance.

Most importantly i think you are all betraying the ideas many of our countries were founded upon. The idea of good treatment to all people, the idea that we are not barbarians, the idea that even criminals get their basic human rights.

If we start beheading people we are no better than a murderer, because we are supporting cold blooded murder! Just by saying "oh it's different because w're getting justice" doesn't quite solve it. If we use that yard stick then i could go and murder someone who ran over a friend now couldn't i. What would be the difference in me doing that and the government doing it? I got my vegeance and i go to prison, the government then beheads me out of vengeance and it's fine?

How very hypocritical.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]

See this is what I hate ... people crying for justice and then being so vicious like that.

The fact the majority of people think that way disturbs the crap out of me. I mean most people are not child molesters but most people would love to brutally tear child molesters to shreds for a living.

Maybe because most people are parents. Imagine trying to take a youngling from a lion /bear/tiger/crocodile...

You wouldn't last a second.

Why should the human race be different? Surely we're all from the same planet?

If someone even thought about hurting my son or daughter then i'm afraid they would suffer.

Tell me you wouldn't feel the same way.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by mr-lizard]

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984

What about criminals who turn their lives around and change? They do exist you know. If we kill them we never get the chance.
[edit on 31-5-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]

Would you let a previously convicted paedophile/rapist/murderer mind your children?

If not... why not?

Originally posted by operation mindcrime

It's all the thick-heads that start to cry "death" based on a small article which gets me going.

Maybe these 'thickheads' are the ones who care more about their own children, than a twisted pervert.

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984

What about criminals who turn their lives around and change? They do exist you know. If we kill them we never get the chance.
[edit on 31-5-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]

Would you let a previously convicted paedophile/rapist/murderer mind your children?

If not... why not?

I didn't say all criminals, paedophiles need to be locked up for life. Rapists also if they're predatory and it's not simply statutory rape. As for murderers, you sat that as a blanket statement when some are convicted for murderer when it's self defense. You also skippeed my argument that if they're falsly convicted and beheaded then some think that's fine. I was talking about many other criminals like thieves as people were talking of expanding such punishments to more crimes.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Maybe because most people are parents. Imagine trying to take a youngling from a lion /bear/tiger/crocodile...

You wouldn't last a second.

Why should the human race be different? Surely we're all from the same planet?

If someone even thought about hurting my son or daughter then i'm afraid they would suffer.

Tell me you wouldn't feel the same way.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by mr-lizard]

Because we have brains that is why, we have big brains, conscience, laws, morals. Animals do not have these things, are we to lower ourselves to the level of every other animal? If so then why bother with society?

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Apologies for missing your post... But as a reply to the above:

Our conscious morals are responsible for hardcore pornography, murder, sodomy, rape, serial killings, war, lies, hatred and much much more.

We are not perfect. So how does this raise us above an animal that raises its young that lacks our supposed morality, yet 100% delivers a secure lifestyle for the animal in question?

[edit on 31-5-2009 by mr-lizard]

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

 

Our conscious morals are responsible for hardcore pornography, murder, sodomy, rape, serial killings, war, lies, hatred and much much more.

We are not perfect. So how does this raise us above an animal that raises its young that lacks our supposed morality?

Quite simple really, we don't all murder, rape and hate. Most animals do, unless they're herbivores and hey even some of them murder something. That is why we're above the animals, really very simple. Most people will go to help someone else if they see them in trobule, animals don't do this with such frequency.

But hey you are still not addressing my point about innocent people being beheade. Are you fine for this to happen as long as plenty of guilty ones also get beheaded? I won't support any system that risks killing someone who is innocent. If they're imprisoned it is bad enough, but at least they are still alive, can be released and given financial compensation. Whilst that doesn't fix it, it is at least something to amke up for it. If they're missing their head then you can't really do any of that.

reply to post by clcreek

So you think it is religious fanaticism that leads to the execution of people that have proven they have no business being in society. I guess you feel they should be locked in a box and tortured for the rest of their lives?

It is alleged that the US is around 80% xtian so they at least will have no problem with this. I mean they don't actually have to do it themselves Yahweh/jesus will do it and apparently much worse anyway.

Perhaps if Yahwehs' rules were adhered to, and not that of Yahweh in the guise of jesus then molester would be stoned to death.

However, the article doesn't say whether or not the child was a slave, because Jesus/yahwe doesn't really have any real issues with slaves according to the bibles. You can treat them more or less as you like as long as you don't kill them, especially girls.

Perhaps if the victim was a girl, then believers of the abrahamic god would be quite happy with turning the other cheek and letting the guy off with a warning.

Crime and punishment should never be mixed with superstitious beliefs whatever beliefs they are.