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Originally posted by aware
From Zack D.
What!? The land of the FREE?!
Whoever told you that is your enemy!
Seems like we dont have a monopoly on freedom after all. If i am told i am free does that make it so?
Im only as 'free' as they let me be.
Freedom, in its purest form, comes from God and his laws.
Mans laws attempt to limit the freedom of individuals for the 'betterment of society'.
Originally posted by intrepid
Tit for tat really. We have gun laws, we also have free health care. BUT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not bad if you aren't a politician, newsperson things like that. I could say anything I wanted to but if it makes the papers it would be editted.
Originally posted by yergen
Amuk
Did you know that unemployment rates are calculated as a share of the total available workforce. The definition of workforce is those who actively are looking for work, if not already working. This means that the share of 5% unemployed is really much larger. Still, there aren't enough jobs to go around. So, the people who cannot find jobs because of recessions should starve? It's their problem, right? In Sweden, people don't have to leave their homes and live in cardboard boxes because they are laid off. This is what I mean with freedom from poverty. Not the kind of thing you were talking about. In the U.S you have around 10% of the total population defined as poor. Is that because they are lazy or because they are free?
Originally posted by Amuk
What I am talking about is the freedom to DO THINGS.
Originally posted by intrepid
Tit for tat really. We have gun laws, we also have free health care. BUT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Amuk
Originally posted by yergen
Amuk
Did you know that unemployment rates are calculated as a share of the total available workforce. The definition of workforce is those who actively are looking for work, if not already working. This means that the share of 5% unemployed is really much larger. Still, there aren't enough jobs to go around. So, the people who cannot find jobs because of recessions should starve? It's their problem, right? In Sweden, people don't have to leave their homes and live in cardboard boxes because they are laid off. This is what I mean with freedom from poverty. Not the kind of thing you were talking about. In the U.S you have around 10% of the total population defined as poor. Is that because they are lazy or because they are free?
I have NEVER had a problem with finding a job. Sometimes I had to take jobs that most wouldnt accept but I had work to support my family. I have been classified as poor ALL my life and I have a big screen TV, air condishing, hi speed internet, a nice car, three bedroom house with a TV in every room, washer/dryer, and just refurnished the place. Being poor in America does not have to mean starving in the streets as much as not having a summer home
Most of the REALLY poor and/or homeless in America are mentally ill and I will be the first to say our care of them is a discrace, but they make up a small fraction of the "poor" that you speak of. Those that will not take a job because it is beneath them can live in a cardboard box as far as I am concerened.
What I am talking about is the freedom to DO THINGS. The government is not a free mans babysitter, I would never trade freedom for securty, and those that do deserve the chains they will wind up wearing.