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Originally posted by liesnomore
Jesus was not a real person. All characters in Bible are fictional. Go to http:..www.liesnomore.net and get out of Matrix.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Finally, Julius Caesar declared himself as a GOD and had a son named Caesarion who was hailed King of Kings and Lord of Lords. So, how do you know that you are not worshipping this man? He did in fact come around the same time as Jesus Christ. While humanity has been around long before that. So that would make his father Julius Caesar the great architect of the Universe? LOL I think not.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Sorry, but virgin births are impossible. That is unless of course he was born of a hermaphrodite. Faith? Yeah lots of it.
It's all symbolic
The "virgin birth" is birth by the naive (optomistic?) Virgo. She is guided by Satan, her opposite (who is Pisces the Fish). The baby, then, is technically the "spawn of Satan."
The Little Mermaid has nothing on Virgo the Virgin
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Jesus was indeed real. However no more special than you and I.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Yes it is all symbolic. When we worship the birth of Christ, (Christmas) we are really worshipping the rise of the sun from it's three days of rest or (death) and easter we supposedly celebrate Jesus ressurection when in fact we are celebrating spring.
The bible is full of metaphors that give astrolgical events a face with a name.. The Bible was written that way to suit the needs of the Roman Empire. Nothing more, nothing less.
Jesus was indeed a mortal man and now mortal men are worshipping mortal men.
Who is we? I don't celebrate either of those as a holiday anyway. You are referring to Pagan holidays. Paganism pre-dates Christianity, and I believe what you mention, is a way to make Pagans feel more comfortable with accepting Jesus, or Christianity. Why don't you also throw in the Holy Trinity of Isis, Osiris, and Horus? That's where you seem to be heading. How far back do you think the symbolism goes?
Psalms 82
5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
He's part of the Christian trinity (The Father, The Son and the "Holy Spirit")
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
The reality is that Jesus is God in the flesh, prophecied in the OT, said he was God in the NT all throughout it and he was God come to visit his people.
3The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Psalm 82
5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.