Does the United States Make Anything Anymore?

Countries like China help manufacturers. they have a list of products and they go around and get guys to make them. In the US we have nothing like that.

Originally posted by saint4God

I don't mind if things are produced overseas when our unemployment rate is going down but otherwise it looks like economic suicide. We're climbing, at 7.6 presently

Yup and when we stop buying foreign garbage to help our own economy everybody starts to scream protectionism.

Is interesting to point out for those that still hold to the dream that America is the biggest producer in the world (beside debt) I will point this out.

If America produces so much goods and services, why American consumer depend so much in Imports for their needs.

Where is the surplus.

We should have our nations retailers with nothing more than American goods in their shelves.

BTW the only reason the Trading deficit got "better" during December was due to Americas consumer tightening their pockets.

Figures will get better as no only china has been hit with the economic crisis but also Our second biggest economy Japan.

Japan, the world's second largest economy, is already in recession and still declining. Japanese exports fell 35 percent in December from a year earlier, as the global demand for its cars, electronics and capital goods dried up. Industrial production plunged a record 9.6 percent, month on month, in December.

China, the so-called "workshop of the world," is being hit particularly hard. Exports declined for the third consecutive month in January, falling 17.5 percent from a year earlier, after a 2.8 percent decline in December. Imports plunged even further—43.1 percent, twice as much as December's 21.3 percent year-on-year drop, the General Administration of Customs said on Wednesday.

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India, the other economy previously touted as a possible bulwark against world depression, is suffering as well. Exports fell 24 percent in January. According to official data,

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Taiwan, the sixth largest Asian economy, saw its exports fall 44.1 percent in January from a year earlier—the biggest fall since records began in 1972. Imports plunged 56.5 percent in the same month.

The IMF's projection for Philippines is just 2.25 percent this year, down from 4.6 percent last year and 7.1 percent in 2007. The official predication for Singapore, the region's trade and financial hub, in 2009 is a contraction of 5 percent—the deepest recession since the city-state was founded in 1965. Malaysia's exports in December plunged 14.9 percent from a year earlier, with exports to the US falling by 30 percent.

www.wsws.org...

I imagine that our GDP is going to look peachy thanks to the slumps on overall global economy

Not to fear Obamas stimulus package for the economy will come to the rescue for the global economy as an estimate of 300 billions or so will be infused into the US American consumers so they can go out and spend, spend and spend more, occurs on foreign made goods.

So don't despair the trade deficit will sore once more probably by the summer again.

[edit on 23-2-2009 by marg6043]

reply to post by SLAYER69


You know the irony of it, that our so call trade partners do practice protectionism it seems that the only nation that not is our.

God figure.

reply to post by yellowcard


Is nothing that you may have that I need for my personal growth so is nothing for me to gain from a debate from you.

Keep it for the classroom.

As a Brit I go out of my way to buy American if the chance is there. Tools, the US makes some really good stuff like Snap On. Also my multi tool made by Gerber. My Gorilla bucket from the States. The stencil film we use at work is also made in the USA. If I can buy Made in USA I do so, because the stuff made there is better, almost over engineered and really does the job.

reply to post by ufoorbhunter


Thanks for that we Americans appreciate that, but sadly most Americans in the US do not even support, the Made in the USA labor.

God figure.

reply to post by marg6043


Thanks for that link Marg! What an eye opener.

Originally posted by marg6043
You know the irony of it, that our so call trade partners do practice protectionism it seems that the only nation that not is our.

Forsooth! Of wisdom she doeth speak. Let those who have ears, let them hear . One of the many classic examples of a double-standard we have in our world today.

[edit on 23-2-2009 by saint4God]

reply to post by on_yur_6


OMG, I just noticed is a Socialist web site, I am not by any means socialist, perhaps just a littler bit

Just kidding.

This is another link in case some feel a littler bit apprehensive by the socialist heading.

www.globalresearch.ca...

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
As a Brit I go out of my way to buy American if the chance is there. Tools, the US makes some really good stuff like Snap On. Also my multi tool made by Gerber. My Gorilla bucket from the States. The stencil film we use at work is also made in the USA. If I can buy Made in USA I do so, because the stuff made there is better, almost over engineered and really does the job.

When visiting England, I stayed with a friend who asked at the deli counter, "is this cheese English?" which I thought was a strange question since we get our food from who knows where. I never asked in a produce store here in the U.S. "are these bananas from the U.S.?" At first I was impressed that she seemed concerned about supporting her own country since we don't give it much thought here. On second look around the store however, I found that it also had a lot to do with expiration dating as well.

reply to post by marg6043
The only reason I go out of the way to buy American is the quality of your products. Most stuff from the USA isn't just a bit better, it's way better than similar products out there. The US really does make things that are made to last. We do buy a lot of your products here in the UK. I've thought about it for a few minutes and the one thing we don't really buy alot of is your (US manufactured) cars, though this is on the rise recently, especially the Chryslers.

reply to post by saint4God


Thanks my friend those are very encouraging words, for some reason every time threads debating the state of the nation it tends to bring some passionate people that still holds very dear the American dream.

But sadly our apathy is what is killing our great nation.

reply to post by saint4God
To be honest the Brits are pretty useless when it comes to supporting their own manufacturers. When I'm in France, or Germany I'm amazed at the loyalty the locals have to their own car manufacturers, not like that here in the UK unfortunately! Most people don't care. I work in ceramics and the Europeans are just the same, they are far more loyal to local branding than us Brits who just want cheap stuff.

reply to post by ufoorbhunter


Yes we used to make the best of the worlds products but cheap labor and cheap competition has killed our nations manufacturing base.

Is just so sad that we can not compete anymore with emerging economical nations that can still abuse their citizens human rights with the blessing of their governments.

Still worst is all those American companies that move oversea to take advantage and abuse also the lack of human rights.

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You know whats really funny and sad?
Is that history repeats itself. The US needs to go back to the basics. If you have not heard of Demings then you need to wake back up America and watch these

reply to post by smokehouseslim


Smoke House Slim--I was searching the thread to see if anyone would mention guitars!

While the quality-control of, say, American-built Fender instruments might not be as consistent as the Japanese built ones, isn't America still at the top of the market for producing boutique instruments? You know--brands like Alembic, Pedulla--the really expensive stuff?

I was amazed to learn that even Carvin outsources the production of its acoustic guitars to Asia. I wonder if Peavey outsources, yet!

And I was amazed to learn that the Levi's I bought last month were made in Pakistan.



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reply to post by marg6043
Oh I nearly forgot about my bike. Cannondale F600 Furio. Made in USA and absolutely fantastic! American made bikes over here are the 'In Thing.' They are so well made.

Originally posted by marg6043


Get your facts straight before tring to post with not links to as what you are talking about.
China comes next, with a combined export value of $1.465 trillion USD.
The United States comes in third, exporting $1.377 trillion USD.

America is the BIGEEST IMPORTER, in the world that means that the money we spend goes mostly to the countries we have trade with

The main reason we have a trade deficit.

These numbers are especially interesting when compared to the total value of these nations’ imports.

The United States is the largest importer in terms of value, with total imports of around $2.19 trillion USD.

Everything is included in the figures.

What it doesn't cover unless I missed it is the fact that what we do produce and consumed in our own country is not reflected in those figures.

Add what we produce for our own markets to what we export and the numbers are staggering also China is a known thief.

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reply to post by SLAYER69


Trustfully I remember the eighties "quality control" I go as far back as when everybody were talking around me of how Japan was taking over

I don't remember Deming directly as in the Early eighties I was a young Marine wife setting down in the US and getting ready to start a family.

So I miss a lot of the Regan era directly as I was too busy but I did took my time to review the legacy of the 80s.

Thanks for the Videos, it does bring backs Deva vu.