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Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by John Matrix
I know i am forgivin for my sins... but my understanding doesnt involve a magical god.. or prayer.
understand that we are the same and it is only our persepctives in reality that has separated us. You life, your choices, and actions are justified through the path you have been on. How could i ever hold somthing against you... i know you. You have to simply understand why you are already forgivin.
Love comes from understanding. Not from a book telling you to get on your knees and beg.
Originally posted by Ant4AU
reply to post by slicobacon
Yes it is the Bible thumping fundamentalist Christians than actually hurt more than they help. If I had not been a Christian at an early age I never would have came to believe in God with listening to the fundamentalist. The ydo not look at the entire meaning of the scriptures. They Pick out the bits and pieces that prove there point often time cutting verses in half.
I am glad that I started to study for myself and see the hypocricies in main stream religion. For a group of people that has scriptures that tell them they are not to judge anyone they are some of the most judgemental people on earth.
Originally posted by John Matrix
Originally posted by xapata
Before you can wake people up, you first must be awake.
You have presented some good insight.
Do you know that I sleep, or that I am awake?
Originally posted by Grandma
reply to post by John Matrix
hello John:
It is my belief that the Creator put a spark in the heart of his creation. Some on us feel that spark and begin to search for the reason we feel this need to find God. As we begin our search and in the darkness we see the light shine a path. As we go down that path we find what our heart has been searching for, we find God, our Creator. Then our spark becomes a burning flame that needs to know more and grow in the spirit of our Lord. Through communion with the Father and the help of the Holy Spirit we learn that we are loved so much that God's only begotten Son died for us to have salvation and atonement for our sins. Now, we learn about the Christ and the communion gets sweeter and more personal. We begin to ask for spiritual eyes to see and wisdom and knowledge. As the Lord gives us wisdom and knowledge we seek enlightenment to become one with the Father. It is truly a beautiful process and a spiritual journey that is personal to everyone who goes down that path.
Peae to you,
Grandma
PS Very good thread!
Originally posted by xapata
I fully respect what you are attempting to do. Still the moment you mention that you want to awaken others, it implies in my opinion a tiny bit of ego. Some "I". Now, I do not say this as a criticism but more as an observation. If your words were truly full of Light, you would have no need to have a desire to awaken others. The words would flow through you and not from you, and those words would have more power since they would spring from an enlightened state free of "I".
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I haven't read the whole of the thread, but just had to ask...
Has humankind been duped into thinking the individuals are "bad" and need redeeming?
That would be my view.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by speaknoevil07
I could not have said it any better.
Time is short...everyone knows it. Few care to find the truth and fewer still to follow the truth.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by John Matrix
I guess the only remaining thing to do is to promise to eachother that we will honestly seek truth for the rest of our lives. You must search outside of your little jesus bubble, Or you will never see anything beyond it.
Originally posted by John Matrix
Originally posted by cancerian42
Actually not all of mankind is striving to achieve a higher state. Some people feel that they are missing something, so they look outward for some solution to their "problems". Other people are just living in the moment, happy to be alive.
Cows eat grass, but don't try to grow better more tasty grass.
Beavers still make dams from branches and mud and don't look for better materials like bricks.
All animal life seems to be pre programmed to do nothing more than what they can do by their nature, and never more.
Man is always striving and seeking more. More knowledge, more wisdom, enlightenment, etc.
Doesn't this indicate that mankind is searching for something that by His very nature he knows he once had?