"If 911 was an inside job, how have those involved kept it a secret???

If 911 was an inside job... why hasnt anyone come clean about it? Think about it, to pull something like this off, there must have been alot of people in on it, from NORAD, to the CIA, FBI, etc., etc., etc.

There are so many unanswered questions about 911. I dont know what to think... but I would assume by now, that someone along the way, would have tried to come clean. This isnt like the JFK assasination, where it could have taken maybe 5-10 people to pull of, this would have taken hundreds... think about it? Everyone has their own beliefs about 911 and no one is wrong, because no one knows what really happened.

The FBI has "no proof linking Osama BL to the 911 attacks". That is a red flag my friends. A big one. The government sure hasnt helped its cause by supressing all kinds of vital info. Half of me wants to believe that our crooked government was behind the attacks. The other half of me thinks, "how could our own government kill our own people?" The news media makes every 911 truther out to be a lunatic, which is really too bad. They make them out to be people who will revolt against the government and call them 'sick, twisted and unpatriotic'. We were born with brains and most logical people will question something that doesnt seem right. Most of the people who believe the official story have not done any research. They believe whatever Bill O'Rielly or Sean Hannity tells them.

I do believe that in some way, our government had advanced knowledge of the attacks and they did nothing to stop it. I dont know if they helped plan or orchestrate it.

If 911 was inside job, how have those involved kept it a secret???

I really dont know... does anyone else feel the same way???????????????

Originally posted by gabriel5578
The news media makes every 911 truther out to be a lunatic, which is really too bad. They make them out to be people who will revolt against the government and call them 'sick, twisted and unpatriotic'. We were born with brains and most logical people will question something that doesnt seem right. Most of the people who believe the official story have not done any research. They believe whatever Bill O'Rielly or Sean Hannity tells them.

I think you just answered your own question... its not really a "secret" they just make it out to be completely wrong and whoever thinks that their own government would kill its own citizens is insane. SO... like you said the vast majority of people will assume that the story is true.

As far as being a "secret", if the government is in on it, they can do whatever they want keep as many people silent as they need, use as much falsified statements, "evidence" as they like.

Honestly I don't see a point for this thread... use the search next time


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Originally posted by gabriel5578
If 911 was an inside job... why hasnt anyone come clean about it?

Well, we now know our governments have kept UFO encounters secret for decades, so why not 911?

the Bush administration is famous for destroying evidence and suppressing,investigation ,you don't do that unless you have something to hide ,LIKE HIGH TREASON.

Everything the administration has done since 911 makes a trail if only in inference to straight to the conclusion that they are the authors of it

starting with

Grounding Americans so they could fly the Bin Ladens out of the country
To begin preparing for the case against Osama

In the months following the attack Bush surrounded himself with Muslim clerics and campaigned strongly against any kind of American suspicion of Muslims to assure them they were safe ,because he knows this is not an Islamic crime

it is known that a chance to kill Osama Bin Laden was 'botched' in the cave bombing incident in Afghanistan. his agreement with the Bin ladens is that Osama will take responsibility for the attacks but he must not be harmed



since the attacks nothing has been done to secure our country's vulnerable nuclear sites .or our ports or our biological ,or chemical facilities. because there is no terrorist plot for the large scale attacks involving these facilities

George Bush stated that HE never thinks about Osama Bin Laden.because he knows Bin Laden did n't engineer the attacks


The only public response to the attacks is heightened surveillance against the citizenry at large ,and legislation that compromises the constitution and limits the rights of all American s while broadening the scope of Presidential powers. because that's what the attacks were designed to do . provide the reason to do exactly that


MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Following the paper trail leads us to a group of people who benifited greatly from the events on 9-11. This group is known as the Bush family.

Why would you need a lot of people involved to pull this off??

1. The 'hijacked' planes were likely flown by remote control (this could have been done by as few as 4 people)

2. This leaves just a few people in VERY high government positions to give 'stand down' orders for the military & security forces.

In my opinion, the success of this operation was largely the result of few people being involved. The more involved - the more complex the operation - the greater the chance of someone making a mistake = mission failure.

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Jane Fonday---If you didnt see a point for this thread you shouldnt have wasted your time responding to it???

Thank you all for your comments/feedback. You have all made valid points. Though I do think it took more than a few people to pull this off...



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I also believe what you said concerning 9/11:

Originally posted by gabriel5578
I do believe that in some way, our government had advanced knowledge of the attacks and they did nothing to stop it. I dont know if they helped plan or orchestrate it.

The problem that I just can't get past when it comes to the 9/11 conspiracy theory is that it would have required the families of those who were on the airliners who have claimed to and presented recordings of their family members calling them from the doomed planes to be in on the conspiracy as well. I just can't get past that one. I admit that the 9/11 truthers put forth a good case, but I cannot see any family member, especially wives, husbands, mothers and fathers going along with it, let alone not coming clean by now!

Like you, I feel that the Bush Administration knew all about it and did nothing to prevent it, but in the end I feel that it was a terrorist attack like none ever seen before in history. If anyone can explain how a close loved one would go along with this 'plan' and not scream from the mountaintops that it was really the government that was behind it, please let me know. It's the communications between those in the air and those on the ground, some of which were recorded, that makes this conspiracy a no-go for me.

Grounding Americans so they could fly the Bin Ladens out of the country

Except the Bin Ladens did not leave the US until after air travel resumed.

In the months following the attack Bush surrounded himself with Muslim clerics and campaigned strongly against any kind of American suspicion of Muslims

Because quite a few Muslims are not extremists and were as mortified about Sept 11 as the rest of us, not to mention there were quite a few acts of hatred against Muslims and supposed Muslims starting on Sept 11.

it is known that a chance to kill Osama Bin Laden was 'botched' in the cave bombing incident in Afghanistan. his agreement with the Bin ladens is that Osama will take responsibility for the attacks but he must not be harmed

Not sure where you got this fruitcake idea.

since the attacks nothing has been done to secure our country's vulnerable nuclear sites .or our ports or our biological ,or chemical facilities. because there is no terrorist plot for the large scale attacks involving these facilities

ROTFLMAO. Do you believe this just because you heard it on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and FOX? Do you honestly think that security people are going to tell the world exactly what we have done to safeguard those facilities? Not to mention there has been at least two plots for just such attacks that have been neutralized in the last seven years.

The only public response to the attacks is heightened surveillance against the citizenry at large ,and legislation that compromises the constitution and limits the rights of all American s while broadening the scope of Presidential powers. because that's what the attacks were designed to do . provide the reason to do exactly that

You know, I keep hearing about this one, and have yet to hear just what rights of mine have been taken away. Because absent my recent deployments to Iraq, I still do and say pretty much whatever I want to.

1. The 'hijacked' planes were likely flown by remote control (this could have been done by as few as 4 people)

So four people wired four jetliners, without any maintenance personnel knowing and those same four people managed to take control of those jets and fly them by remote? Not to mention they also managed to block out the radio communications of all four and insert "terrorist" radio calls into the ATC network? AND to fake the calls made by the flight attendants to their respective airlines, over the airline maintenance/reservation nets? Four people did all that? Oh I would love to meet those Supermen.

2. This leaves just a few people in VERY high government positions to give 'stand down' orders for the military & security forces.

Whoopsie...that didnt happen either.

Next?

Originally posted by earthman4
Following the paper trail leads us to a group of people who benifited greatly from the events on 9-11. This group is known as the Bush family.

They DID? HOW? How has the last seven years benefitted the Bush family?

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There's this little company, perhaps you've heard of it: Haliburton! Bush and Cheney have made millions while they have been in office. But I still don't think they were behind 9/11, just found a way to make a buttload of money off the aftermath!

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so you edit my entire post leave half of it out and the argue about what you selected .I'm pretty sure anyone who reads my whole post can figure out that
one out for themselves



that's the lamest thing I've seen since I started posting here


Eric Prince is that you?

As an answer to the question I would say that the reason those involved have been able to keep it a secret is because no single person who was involved knew enough about the operation to say anything anyone could use.

Engineering and Architecture seems to be a popular area of study for many terrorists and their leadership. Trained architects and engineers possess the skill set required to carry out their operations.

I am not an Engineer or an Architect, but I assume that the former are specialists at designing and building the PROCESS whereby some design envisioned by the latter is realized.

In the strict case of 9/11 the design was the trade towers on fire, as was revealed by a painting that Bin Laden was sitting in front of when talking to some person.

According to wiki Bin Laden has an engineering degree, as do some of his comrades. Without regard to who is in truth responsible, I suspect that whoever engineered the operation broke the whole job up into so many little pieces (let's say 1 Million) that no one person involved at the operational level knew the big picture. There are probably people who assisted in the operation that were not aware that their "role" was directly involved in it; before, during or after. If they woke up and saw the big picture, got nervous and called the authorities perhaps they were disappeared.

The operational pieces with the critical assignments and adequate knowledge of the plot are on a one way trip, so that can't talk or be made to talk.

As is already well known is that most people cannot see how they fit into the Big picture. So if my scenario is correct the question is, "what exactly would you as an investigator expect them to tell you if you knew the question to ask?" And that it is why it is difficult to prove any one person is responsible for the crime.


PS. I suspect that 9/11 was a live training mission for a much larger plot that the terrorists launched several years later. Fortunately for all of us that plot was foiled. You're welcome.



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Those are good points , provides a lot to consider

Originally posted by gabriel5578
"If 911 was an inside job, how have those involved kept it a secret???

Very poorly.



Ronald Dumsfeld also slipped up and said a missile hit the Pentagon and that Flt. 93. was shot down.

President Bush sat and read a story about a goat while America was being "attacked." The secret service just let him sit there. Nothing to worry about.

Cheney said that the order not to shoot down Flt.77 as it approached the Pentagon still stands. "Of course it still stands. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

The FBI said that bin Laden is not wanted for the 9/11 incident. They said there is no concrete evidence to tie him to that event.

There is more concrete evidence tying Dick Cheney to 9/11 than there is tying bin Laden to 9/11.

When you are dealing with a population as doped up and dumbed down as the American population, there is no problem keeping a secret. Just act shocked and deny, deny, deny.

Just listen to Fahmy Malik's former employer, formerly coke snortin' Bill Clinton.



When asked what did Iraq have to do with 9/11, President Bush answered , "Nothing!" When asked why bin Laden wasn't wanted by the FBI for 9/11, they answered "No concrete evidence." When asked if the order still stands not to shoot down an aircraft heading for Washington on 9/11, Cheney said, "Of course the order still stands."

There is nothing secret about who was responsible for 9/11. The only ones who don't know who was responsible for 9/11 are those three monkeys with their sense organs covered.

The whole 9/11 debate, among those who have gone into it, is not about who was responsible. It is about what constitutes legal, stand up in court proof of responsibility.



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Except Bush does not own any stock in Halliburton. And Halliburton sold off the part of the company that is doing all the work for DoD in Iraq/afghanistan....

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Except Bush does not own any stock in Halliburton.

Could you give us a few more details on his portfolio here Swampy? How about Laura Bush's portfolio? Do they have stock in the Carlyle Group and does it have stock in Haliburton? There are just so many darn ways to skin a cat, you aren't really convincing me here.

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Umm, I didnt touch your post. I simply quoted the sections I wanted to reply to. Was being nice since you are fairly new here, I wont make that mistake again.

And you can think my post was lame all you want to, still wont change the fact that its true.

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999

They DID? HOW? How has the last seven years benefitted the Bush family?

He completed every mission he was assigned to do, and caused utter fear and chaos within the country. Stripped the congress bit by bit. Stripping your freedoms and privacy. Raging two illegal wars, giving trillions of dollars made from these illegal wars to the cronies and businesses that sponsors these wars. Yet even, he used your tax money to go into these wars, that litterly costed thrillions too. Did he suffer? No he didn't. Is he suffering now, maybe a little, due to public humilation, but he did not however suffer over the 7 year period up till now, in what you've stated.

Oh and created a perfect opportunity for a 9/11 atrocity. Complete inside job. Perfect opportunty to create fear, against the very race, America needs to go to war with to get oil. The ME, oh the people from the ME attacked America on 9/11 But my point being, the government got away with there lies and continue to do so on this very topic of the tragic event that day. Their behaviour is engrossing and incredibly blantant, yet people let them get away with it. People feel that its not right to not trust your government even, given the fact there is so much evidence and proof that this very government has lied pretty much on every single important issue America has been confronted with in the last 8 years period, sheeple keep trusting.


The Administration got the control of the oil in Iraq. Progressivly trying to gain control of the oil in the ME bit by bit. Finished His father's dirty karma with Saddam, that was purely a personal goal for Bush I can tell you. Even created the finanicial crisis and oil prices to go off the scale (as I've just seen), for him and his cronies to further create enough fear in the world, to lay yourself at their feet. Now the Government's got your 700billion dollars of taxpayers money into the banks aswell. Now they have more control.

So who really benefited?

Every one of them were missions,that were carefully planned. The administration got them completed despite the fact, that they could be on the brink of been overthrown or reprimanded in some way prior to the Bush Administration leaving term. In some way they will be standed up too.

He doesn't care if the people don't agree with them. Only time will be the answer to his behaviour. But I will say "not" all went accordingly to plan either Bush had hoped to do even more wars, Iran and Korea were his other agendas from jan 2007, but people have woken up to this crap spewing poltical football thankfully. He has not recieved any support or backing. So this is exactly why I feel the 700 billion dollar money was used for the "bailout" another way to get money, that didn't come from a probable Iranian war

But either way after all my rambling and no matter which way you look at it, he got his fair share of the pie.
He got his money and has already put it back into the scum of a family that they are, don't you think? Do you even think he cares what happens after this, do you still think he's suffering with despair over our thoughts and do you even still think he has not benefited out of this adminstration?


In having said all the above he still got away with murder.
When justice is brought forward. Then judgment will be called on him. He will suffer from his actions, in time.

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Originally posted by gabriel5578

If 911 was inside job, how have those involved kept it a secret???

I really dont know... does anyone else feel the same way???????????????

First off "Inside job" could mean a bunch of foriegn spies or double agents who are working INSIDE the US government agencies with their own secret agenda, it doesn't necessarily mean George Bush and his cronies did it for political gain (although unsurprisingly they took full advantage of it). And you can fully expect none of these agents, spies or moles would want to give away their position for obvious reasons.

Also in terms of keeping things secret just look at history, a good example being the Manhattan project which involved thousands of people was kept 'secret'.




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