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Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to post by JimBeam
He was just announcing the arrival of himself in plural. I think he's probably talking to himself in the mirror too - just like his lieutenant comrade.
On the conspiracy side maybe the underling who fired the taser that resulted in the first death killed his commander to cover himself. Either way two unnecessary deaths thanks to one guys action - when will they learn.
Originally posted by mmariebored
I don't understand why he felt he had to kill himself just for that.
Originally posted by mmariebored
I don't understand why he felt he had to kill himself just for that.
Originally posted by JimBeam
Originally posted by mmariebored
I see the morons have arrived...
You're right, I'm such a moron. I wish I was smart like you.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by mmariebored
I don't understand why he felt he had to kill himself just for that.
"Just for that"? The subtext here is a little frightening. Do you think the life of the officer was genuinely more valuable than the life of the man on the ledge? The glib way you use the word 'just' completely diminishes the fact that the first man died in such a tragic and needless way (tantamount to murder in my opinion - you taser a man on a ledge and he will fall). You even go as to suggest there had to be more to it, that the police officer had other things on his mind; the subtext of which is that this couldn't be enough for him to want to kill himself. Again, a major dishonour to the poor bastard who died coming off the ledge.
Yet, at the same time you're obviously placing worth on the police officer's life with your statement; his life was worth more than throwing it away because of what happened.
Shocking.
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I watched the video. The officer looked like he was afraid when the guy started fidgeting with his pants, but, instead of admitting his ungrounded fear causing the tasing, he proceeded with the story that he tased him for not "doing as he said". What made it worse is that his friend(the other officer) helped encourage the fake reason for the tasing by applauding the decision. Clearly these guys were used to boosting each other's egos, whether the other was in the wrong or not. The officer's ego was on a very high pedestal and, when it fell, he shattered.
Better to let your pals know it's ok to be wrong and it's ok to be corrected, than let them shatter from a fall of that height.
That's the lesson I got out of it.
Originally posted by mmariebored
Obviously, you didn't read further down? Is my other post not showing on this forum? My WHOLE POINT in saying that was, there had to be more to the officer's suicide than causing the death of another human being.
Most mentally stable people can get past a horrible mistake like that and move on. Most GOOD people will use the mistake they made and try to help others NOT make the same mistake that they did.
To applaud a the man for killing himself, instead of encouraging people to move past their mistakes and try to help others not make the same mistakes, is VERY irresponsible, even moronic.
No, I'm not saying the officer's life was more valuable than the man, I'm saying two wrongs do not make a right.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by mmariebored
Obviously, you didn't read further down? Is my other post not showing on this forum? My WHOLE POINT in saying that was, there had to be more to the officer's suicide than causing the death of another human being.
Yes, I get your point. You're saying that there "had to be more to the officer's suicide than causing the death of another human being"
Yet with the use of the word "just", you diminish the life and death of the poor swine who died as a direct consequence of being tased.
So the policeman wasn't a "GOOD" man now?
There is a very strong suggestion in what you're saying that mentally unstable people are 'BAD'.
Well, I for one wasn't applauding his death.
Originally posted by mmariebored
OK. So, you acknowledged that I said there had to be more to the police officer's death than his tremendous guilt over causing the death of a fellow human being.
Yet with the use of the word "just", you diminish the life and death of the poor swine who died as a direct consequence of being tased.
Again. Putting words into a someone's mouth isn't very nice.
Suggestion? You mean like I was being passive aggressive towards a victim I could see but who couldn't see me? Like something a hacker would do to their victims? Blindfold their victims and beat them up, only verbally? I would never do that. You, once again, twisted my meaning. I didn't say that at all. I didn't say mentally unstable people are "bad", I said it would be BETTER to stay alive and right your wrong by teaching others not to make the same mistake you made. You see how easy it is to add meaning?
Well, I for one wasn't applauding his death.
Originally posted by JimBeam
Also, I just want to reiterate the respect I have for this cop that took his own life. Now there was a cop that understood how to be honorable.