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That's precisely what a pagan is, one who believes in many Gods. Logic tells us that there can only be one God. There can only be one creator.
Originally posted by undo
i think the term "pagan" needs to be more carefully defined. it's been a catch all term that was historically applied hy the RCC to those that disagreed with their "only one god" theories, which have no historical basis in fact. the truth is, from what my research seems to indicate, somewhere inbetween.
zeitgeist bases alot of its ideas on the research of acharya s., who takes the easy way out by claiming that ANY similarity is evidence of familarity. because your neighbor mows his yard, same as you, doesn't mean you know each other or worship lawn mowers.
Originally posted by Lightmare
reply to post by re22666
No, I'm not wrong. And what you claim I have assumed is actually an observation, not an assumption. An observation of your many posts basically saying the same thing over and over and over again. An observation of you using circular logic instead of dispaying any kind of real knowledge of how textual criticism works.
You see, your logic could still be applied to ANY historical source that has been "verified" by other historians or has what you refer to as "supporting histories from many other sources". Keep in mind that such sources are not immune to being altered if something gets lost in translation or changed by someone with an axe to grind.
So by your logic, we should consider pretty much ALL history to be either mistranslated, or intentionally altered by a scribe with an agenda.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by NOTurTypical
check this out by Michael S. Heiser, phD, and scholar of the biblical languages. he explains the original meanings of the words and the context they are stated in, in the original languages, as regards the idea of "God and the gods."
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more of his data.
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Isaiah 44:8: "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God: I know not any."
In that Godhead, as Jesus clearly and repeatedly taught, God the Father hold ultimate power and control of earthly events. Jesus Christ serves as his executive to carry out his instructions and divine will. This relationship was clearly and repeatedly taught by the Savior during his mortal ministry (see Jn. 4:34; 5:17-20, 22-27, 30-36; 6:29, 38-40, 44, 57, 65; 7:16-18, 28-29; 8:16-18, 26-29, 38, 41-42, 54-55; 10:14-18, 25-38; 11:4, 41-42; 12:26-28, 44-50; 13:3, 14:1-21, 26, 28-31; 15:10, 16, 23-27; 16:2-16, 23-24, 27-32; 17:1-26; 20:17, 21, 31). The relationship was succinctly summarized by John the Baptist, who testified that "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand" (Jn. 3:35).
There are dozens of passages in the Bible that teach that there are many Gods. These passages call for discernment to differentiate them from other passages which make reference to the false gods of the pagan religions which existed in Bible times.
I am only saying this bc I can't get past the fact that some of the most controlling and horrible leaders in the recent past and present have been "christian."
All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)
14th October, 1941, midday:
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)
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Originally posted by gnosis111
reply to post by re22666
Yeah and don't forget to add that Mark, Matt, Luke, and John were written 300 years AFTER the supposed crucifixion. So either these guys lived longer than we can imagine, OR, someone else wrote them.
ecause of the reference to the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE (Mark 13:2), most scholars believe that Mark was written some time during the war between Rome and the Jews (66-74). Most early dates fall around 65 CE and most late dates fall around 75 CE.
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