New asian tanks

The price of an Abrams tank is not much, an M1A1 costs 4.3 million dollars compared to the Leclerc which costs in upwards of 8 million dollars.

What?!
No mention of the Merkava?



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The Merkava Mk 4 is the sexiest tank out there.

Originally posted by devilwasp
the abrahms are ok but too pricey
challangers can do thier jobs at a better price

Yeah, I reckon the Challenger is a better all-round tank. You should see the crap the government in Australia is getting right now for buying a heap of second hand Abrams from the US.

Originally posted by devilwasp
the abrahms are ok but too pricey
challangers can do thier jobs at a better price

Total 386 Challenger tanks have been delivered for UK army. Those 386 Challengers costed 2.2 billion �. It is around 4 billion $. A little math and one Challenger 2 costs more than 10 milion dollars. SO STOP TALKING IT IS CHEAPER THAN ABRAMS!

Originally posted by longbow

Originally posted by devilwasp
the abrahms are ok but too pricey
challangers can do thier jobs at a better price

Total 386 Challenger tanks have been delivered for UK army. Those 386 Challengers costed 2.2 billion �. It is around 4 billion $. A little math and one Challenger 2 costs more than 10 milion dollars. SO STOP TALKING IT IS CHEAPER THAN ABRAMS!
actually they cost $1,793,694 per unit and i might add that money figure you got di u forget to count spare parts, fuel, ammo ?
so in respponse you stop talking the m1 costs 4.3 million a piece and the abram costs 2.6 million a piece so it is still cheaper ! ha stitch that!

The Challenger I'd say has a slightly better armor and gun. But it's C3 abilities are lacking when compared to the M1A2.

The better tank is ultimately the Panzer because the T34s just beat them out of sheer numerical advantage.

Considering you're pitting a medium tank vs. a heavy the outcome is given, however the JS series tanks worked the tiger and king tiger tanks with ease. Also a T-34 85 is at least on par with the panther, if not better.

And plus. The Germans during ww2 were trying to develop a tank that could withstand the t-34 and t-40. A t34 shell blew holes through tigers and panzers while their shells bounced off the t-90s.

Please stop talking you're making it worse the tanks in question were made 5 dacades apart they were never in the same war.

I do think that the Russian tank competes for best tank, especially given price and weight considerations. I'm thinking that the leo 2 is probably first though, Merk is just different built for a very specific enviroment.

T-34/85- Very simple & reliable, cheap to build- ideal for a relatively uneducated & peasant society. Excellent innovative design but ultimately, not as technically good as the Panther. A great deal better than the Panzer IV, however!! However, the US Army was extremely good at getting its damaged/KO'd tanks back into combat, whereas the Soviet & Wermacht tended to discard theirs.
WRT modern designs- who can tell? It relies so much on individual crews- motivation, communication, leadership etc. The posts about KE rounds are correct. Purely based on the transferable energy from a well-manufactured APFSDS round striking ANY armour plate, (Chobham, Dorchester) there is not a lot you can do to stop them....