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Such definitions create great confusion, and stir up religious animosity against followers of benign faith traditions. They have been known to trigger genocidal proposals, lynching, attempted mass murder, fire bombings, shootings, common assaults, etc.
We strongly recommend that the terms "Satanist" and "Satanism" be used only with a qualifier to refer to religions that have some direct involvement with Satan in some form. Thus a "Satanist" is one who either:
1. Theistic Satanist: One who worships the Christian devil. Although the Christian Churches taught during the Renaissance that devil worshipers were very common, such individuals were in fact quite rare, and remain so.
2. Religious Satanist: One who accepts Satan as a pre-Christian life-principle worth emulating. They follow a number of religious traditions, of which the largest by far is the Church of Satan.
16th century Satanism: This is an imaginary, profoundly evil religion that was invented during the late Middle Ages by the Christian church. The Church taught that Witches worshiped Satan, ritually killed children, boiled down their bodies to make magical implements, sold their soul to the devil, broke crucifixes, conducted black masses, created hail storms to damage crops, caused disease in farm animals and humans. etc. They were said to totally dedicate their life to harming others.
The church's creation of Satanism gave the theological foundation for the "burning times" in which tens of thousands of religious heretics, mentally ill people, and supremely unlucky individuals were burned at the stake (in Roman Catholic countries) or hung (in Protestant countries).
This form of Satanism never existed in the past as an organized entity. It does not exist today, except in the imagination of the public, and in horror movies. Belief in the reality of Satan-worshiping witches remains widespread in North America today, particularly among religious conservative.
Serial murderers: Occasionally, a serial murderer will claim to be a Satanist in order to justify his horrendous activities. This is "the Devil made me do it" defense. The perpetrator admits guilt, but says that he was not responsible for his crimes because he was under the control of Satan. Police investigations reveals that the perpetrator is faking it.
Psychotic murderers: Occasionally, news of a Satanic ritual murder will surface, complete with Satanic rituals, symbols, etc. But, after investigation, the prime cause of the murder will be found to be severe mental illness on the part of the perpetrator(s). A case in Germany hit the newsstands during 2002-JAN. The accused couple, the Rudas, talked about glowing eyes, a glowing knife used as a murder weapon, a glowing victim, "Several witnesses have testified that the couple suffered from personality disorders. They could both face long terms at secure psychiatric institutions."
Child molesters: A small percentage of abusive pedophiles and other child molesters have been known to abuse children in a Satanic setting as a means of controlling the victims. The molesters are pretend Satanists; they are simply using the facade of Satanism to further their criminal acts. They figure that if one of their child victim complains to authorities, their disclosures will not be believed. A government study in England found three such perpetrators.
Heavy metal rock bands: Some musicians pretend to be associated with Satanism. Their main motivation is to gain notoriety and capture free publicity. The suggestion of Satanic involvement increases record sales. Few bands are actually formed from sincere Satanists.
The Temple of Set: In 1975, a member of the Church of Satan, Michael Aquino, left the Church after a disagreement, and organized the Temple of Set. This follows the religion of Setianism. Members recognize a pre-Satanic deity, the Egyptian God Set as a living entity who stands separate and apart from the forces of the natural universe. He was typically portrayed as a man with the head of an animal (perhaps a hyena). Set was copied by the Chaldeans who called him Had or Hadit; this later became Shaitan, and still later the Satan of Christianity and Islam. The media have linked the Temple of Set with the Church of Satan and called both forms of Satanism. Leaders of both religious groups deny that they are related.
Starting in 1980, there was a growing and widespread belief that Satanists were involved in Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) and killing of innocent infants, children and adults. In the late 1980s, believers in SRA expanded their accusations to include a wide variety of other small religious groups as perpetrators. Belief in SRA faded during the 1990s due to a complete lack of hard evidence. It is accepted by most investigators to be a Christian urban legend, based on fear, misinformation, and false memories created during recovered memory therapy.
DURHAM --
Prosecutors have charged three people, including two ranking members of the Durham County Democratic Party, as part of an investigation into allegations of rape and kidnapping that prosecutors said involved satanic worship.
The latest person charged is Diana Palmer, 44, the first vice chairwoman of the county Democratic Party. She turned herself in to police Wednesday afternoon and was charged with one count of accessory after the fact of assault with deadly weapon inflicting serious injury.
Palmer's arrest came five days after police arrested Joy Johnson, 30, the county party's third vice chairwoman, and her husband, Joseph Scott Craig, 25.
Authorities have said little about the case outside of the information included in arrest warrants, which allege that Craig beat a man and a woman, raped the woman and that Johnson watched as he did so. Durham County Assistant District Attorney Mark McCullough said earlier this week that charges stemmed from some sort of satanic ritual.
DURHAM, N.C. -- Durham Democratic Party first vice chair Diana Palmer appeared before a Durham District Court judge Thursday morning on a charge of accessory after the fact.
***(snip)***
Police say Palmer, who is also a Durham Democratic Party leader, faces charges that include accessory after the fact, which means she was trying to take evidence from the home.
In the arrest warrant, authorities say Palmer was "removing items of evidence of the crime(s) from 2305 Albany Street, and placing items of evidence in the trunk of her vehicle."
The arrest warrant continues, "...the defendant then drove her vehicle to another location in an effort to conceal the items from detection of the Durham Police Department, and in an effort to personally assist Joseph Craig escape arrests."
This year there have already been 30 in Scotland alone. A mare had her legs and genitals slashed in Renfrewshire this month and, in February, 25 horses had hair cut from their tails in a series of night raids on a farm in Aberdeenshire, which had also been targeted the previous year.
The Stirlingshire outbreak has mystified detectives. Inspector Paul Fleming, of Central Scotland Police, said he had never seen anything like it in his 26 years as an officer.
“A horse is more capable of defending itself than a woman or even a child, but the fact that a human being could do this to a trusting animal is unforgivable,” he said. “It is distressing to the horses and to the community.”
Some reports have suggested a link with occultists. Similar attacks in 2002 led the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals to call in a witchcraft expert to examine the possibility that horse blood was being used in ancient satanic fertility rites, especially as many cases occur around key times in the occultists' calendar, such as today's summer solstice.
Originally posted by Shadowflux
Ok, so all this is from the Center For Religious Tolerance website found here:
[i[I hope that clears things up, i don't want to hear anymore about how my definitions of Satanism are wrong or how I don't know what I'm talking about. Why do people always think they know more than you do about things you are into???
A U.S. jury yesterday found a Roman Catholic priest guilty of the satanic ritual-style murder of a 71-year-old nun which went unsolved for more than 25 years.
Father Gerald Robinson, above, was sentenced to a mandatory jail term of between 15 years and life.
There were gasps in the court after the verdict, but the 68-year-old priest remained impassive.
Sister Margaret Ann Pahl was found murdered on a chapel floor in April, 1980. She had been strangled, covered in an altar cloth and stabbed 31 times in the shape of an upturned holy cross.
She had been grabbed from behind and choked so violently that the blood vessels in her eyes burst and two bones in her neck broke. Prosecutor Dean Mantros said that Robinson pushed up the nun's robe and pulled down her underwear.
Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by sir_chancealot
go away troll unless you actually know me.
it is painfully apaprant that your closed minded and believe your ultra nationalistic right wing opinion is the only one that matters.
go to germany and see if your views count for anything.
which btw im not from germany
I love the antics of the premier satanists on this thread.
1. These people aren't satanists, since there was no ritual abuse.
2. If they had been satanists, that would be great, because satanism is good.
3. There is no such thing as bad or good.
4. Christianity is bad because it is full of hypocrites.
5. I am tolerant, of eveyone. Except for people who disagree with me. (taking a page from the other team's playbook, I guess.)
6. Whipping people isn't kinky. It's normal. Everyone is kinky, which makes kinkiness normal; except that being normal is bad, and since most people are bad, it is bad to be kinky---oh, no wait; nothing is bad. Except Christianity.
7. Putting people in cages is fine. they must have asked for it. No, wait, it's wrong because it's being intolerant; no, wait, THEY are intolerant of the sadists' (who aren't satanists) desire to whip them. But that's ok, because nothing is bad, unless its Christians.
8. Nothing should be illegal, unless it hurts someone. The fact that these people are being prosecuted is due to their satanism, which it would be fine if they were satanists but they are really not, at least not Crowley-style because they didn't smoke pot, so they're just into bondage, which is fine, even if it isn't satanic.
9. There are lots of different kind of satanists. But only one kind of Christian. the WRONG ones.
10. The Bible is wrong
11. We don't know what the Bible "really" says, because we don't have the original manusripts. But it was wrong, even before the church changed it.
12. I'm a better bible scholar than you. I don't know hebrew or greek. But I'm better than you. 'Cuz I'm not a hypocrite. I read the first 4 chapters of Genesis, and that's how I know it all. Plus I found this really kewl neopagan website. That's how I know you're a bigoted ignoramus.
How'm I doing so far?
Originally posted by TheComte
Every once in a while, evidence of ritual sexual abuse surfaces briefly in the news. Each time it is downplayed to appear as a stand alone case.
Going back to at least ancient Greece, ruling elites have been known to engage in pederast warrior cults, which involve the ritual sexual abuse of young males. It also appears in Nazi Germany.
It's no coincidence the number of politicians that are implicated in this type of activity. These occult rituals are designed to confer some sort of power to the person. Aleister Crowley expounds on the power of sex in ritual.
Originally posted by rakeswapper
reply to post by burdman30ott6
Anyway, I found this amusing....
**It would be akin to someone building a government on the base principles of Adolph Hitler and defending it by saying "but we're not Nazis." **
You mean like the USA currently?
hehe.
Originally posted by gambon
reply to post by Icarus Rising
"If you live in a Western nation, secular or not, your system of law is derived from Biblical principles based on the Ten Commandments."
which in themselves where based on ....the system of law of The Roman Empire.... the "western superpower of its day"
Originally posted by gambon
reply to post by Icarus Rising
"If you live in a Western nation, secular or not, your system of law is derived from Biblical principles based on the Ten Commandments."
which in themselves where based on ....the system of law of The Roman Empire.... the "western superpower of its day"
One section of a book recorded the 42 Confessions and 42 Judges that a person would have to pass in order to successfully enter the eternal afterlife. The 42 Confessions are as follows:
1. I have not committed sin.
2. I have not committed robbery with violence.
3. I have not stolen.
4. I have not slain men and women.
5. I have not stolen grain.
6. I have not purloined offerings.
7. I have not stolen the property of God.
8. I have not uttered lies.
9. I have not carried away food.
10. I have not uttered curses.
11. I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men.
12. I have made none to weep.
13. I have not eaten the heart.
14. I have not attacked any man.
15. I am not a man of deceit.
16. I have not stolen cultivated land.
17. I have not been an eavesdropper.
18. I have not slandered [no man].
19. I have not been angry without just cause.
20. I have not debauched the wife of any man.
21. I have not debauched the wife of [any] man.
22. I have not polluted myself.
23. I have terrorized none.
24. I have not transgressed [the law].
25. I have not been wroth.
27. I have not blasphemed.
28. I am not a man of violence.
29. I have not been a stirrer up of strife.
30. I have not acted with undue haste.
31. I have not pried into matters.
32. I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
33. I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
34. I have not worked witchcraft against the king.
35. I have never stopped [the flow of] water.
36. I have never raised my voice.
37. I have not cursed God.
38. I have not acted with arrogance.
39. I have not stolen the bread of the gods.
40. I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the spirits of the dead.
41. I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
42. I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god.
It must have been very difficult to make it into the Egyptian afterlife, but what this does represent is a clearly defined set of moral standards, even though they were not laws.