Cop's 8742 child porn mistakes

Originally posted by Mr. Ree
If you work at McDonalds, you get free hamburgers, and If you work as a Cop, you get free get out of jail cards.

It's not corruption, but it's just fringe benefits. The perks of the job.

I don't think you should be allowed to cash in your get-out-of-jail-free-card for child porn. Do you

Were you just stating the way of things, or is this also the way you think things should be? I don't think cops should get perks that give them diplomatic immunity to the very things they swore an oath to protect us from

it makes me wonder when this goes on if they arnt in some sort of club for
ratbags and rockspiders get busted then bingo let of nearly scot free.
get what i mean the club is big they have protectors through the system to help other club members when they get done over and so forth and so forth . i dunno deosnt seem to make sense to me

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

He was sentenced to 18 months' jail,[ but the term was wholly suspended after his lawyer successfully argued Wilson had downloaded the images by mistake.

Hmmm, initially sentenced to 18 months...Gee, even if he was convicted (which by the wording of the article, he was) that sentence seems super small for such a crime.

So many oddities to this story...

Actually I have seen less time for people with child porn on their pc. I have also seen less for those who were actively seeking a child on line and were going to meet the “child”. Ever look into local or regional crimes and see the conviction and sentence? If you do you will see some of the worst sentencing out there. People get years in jail for ignoring a sign ordinance but someone else can kill someone in a DUI accident and get months and it is suspended. Many times I think some of these judges are smoking crack. But again I have seen this type of sentencing before for middle class and the poor who were all but your model citizens.

Though I fully agree anyone getting such a mild sentence is wrong it is not the first time.

I do find it hard to believe that the judge thinks it was accidental though.

As for him being a cop and those saying all cops are like this are being nothing but ignorant. There are bad apples everywhere you go. There are factory workers, bankers, teachers, computer programmers, and college students that are pedophiles. Bad people are just that bad people, look past the individual and see that not all are the same. Saying all cops are like this is like saying all college students are stupid immature party animals with no sense of responsibility, or that all engineers have no common sense. If we are going to grossly generalize we might as well go back 80 years and start spitting bigoted hate from our lips again.

Raist

Originally posted by Raist
Actually I have seen less time for people with child porn on their pc. I have also seen less for those who were actively seeking a child on line and were going to meet the “child”.

Here in happy little perfect Sweden, you do less time after actually raping a child

I see crap like this every other week in the news. Or worse.

reply to post by intrepid


Well, that sick pedophile should have thought of that first.

He needs to go to jail, with all the other pedophiles, general population!

If he fears mistreatment, he should have thought of that first...........

NO special treatment for cops.

NO allowing cops to break the law with NO consequences.


Send the sick sob to jail just like any other pedophile sicko!!!!!!!!!

Not to justify anything at all. Child porn is aweful and pathetic, but I woke up one morning and there was a ton of really bad stuff on my computer. I had downloaded a game or something the day before, but I had broadband and was online 24/7. I lived with just my wife at the time. There were horrible videos of not only child porn and rape, but there were cracked games, files with peoples passwords and all sorts of things. There was roughly 30 gigs of crap on there. We did not put it there and we could not erase any of it. Everytime we tried the computer said we could not erase because the file was either being used by someone else or was write protected. We called the police and they told us the computer had been hacked and someone was using our hard drive for storage and the only way to get rid of it was to do a complete restore. They copied everything and I completely restored my computer. It scared the mess out of me. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it's possible.

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That's really a tough one for people who don't understand what's happening on their computer. Call the cops, depending on who you get they might bust you, call a computer repair man they might turn you in to cops. You're lucky you didn't get some idiot or moron that charged you for possessing any of that stuff.

That is an example of where police have a choice and can use their discretion, but in many such cases because of the nature of the material they will automatically bounce you into their system - saying something like it's for the protection of the kids blah blah blah.

These days we often hear more decisions by police that are opposite of what you had and they drag you into their web which you must pay with money & time to escape from. In your case we have some educated intelligent police actually protecting the you the public. Hooray!

Sadly though, the case this thread is about is a pure cover up and If I were in that area of the world I would ask that a higher authority investigate that judge.



[edit on 16-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

It could have been accidental, but the credit card report kinda takes care of that, doesn't it?

Truely a slimey little man. The judge, if anything, is worse...turning a blind eye to a man who has corrupted his position of trust. The cop should be in jail, and the judge removed from the bench...

Originally posted by intrepid
He should have used the Pete Townsend(I think) alibi, "I was doing research." Pfft.

The reason he didn't do time was:

"I am also mindful that as a former police officer, a period of imprisonment would be harsher upon you."

YA THINK???? Walking dead man.

i would never ever want to be in prison, let me say that first. However, if i was in jail and i was not a lifer i would beat him mercilessly to gain respect amongst inmates. If i was a lifer i would shank him in front of as many people as possible.

Originally posted by terrylm
it makes me wonder when this goes on if they arnt in some sort of club for
ratbags and rockspiders get busted then bingo let of nearly scot free.

Pretty much.

CIA involved in Child Trafficking and Satanic Ritual Sacrifice

There are far more disgusting things being done by people in power than looking at child pornography. Things that will make a grown adult cry to hear about.

Yeah I read something on Coast to Coast AM about some secret club in California that Pres Bush belongs along with several other politicians and public figures. There was a story on there about a boy that was being held prisoner there and passed around like a philly blunt. He supposedly escaped and a reporter investigating it dissappeared or something. There are some sick, sick people out there.

The subscription is hard to defend, but the giant collection maybe isn't. 8,000 pics at say 50 kB per pic would make about a 400 MB archive. That's stretching it but not impossible. Another question- where the hell is all this child porn? I've been all over the net and seen some nasty things but never that! Is it on the so-called "darknets"? Is it invitation-only? I didn't really expect to find anything nasty on Google, but a search for "Sunshine Boys" showed the usual links to the movies by that name.

I am sorry for a completely pointless post....

but....... even though effing children is found to be un moral and wrong (and disgusting to those not born with the appreciation), when thought out with facts on life and a childs mentality.
(ok, so... it isnt completely wrong.....but, still..........)

I believe that childporn should be readily available to those that want it....
why are they not allowed to pleasure themselves to what they love? (more acurately, what their bodies tell them to love.....same for everyone)
sucks for them I know..... but really.... it should be allowed... the only problems are that alot of people can't stop with just looking..... and another problem is with the people who make the porn in the first place... if it was legal they would probably have more reason to go out and "make" it......

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though, alowing people to look at porn makes them want the real thing even more...... .....almost the same can be said about not allowing it at all.... ....without ever knowing what it is like... I bet that is a big helping hand for people to go out and experience it themselves.........

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Originally posted by WishI
I believe that childporn should be readily available to those that want it....
why are they not allowed to pleasure themselves to what they love? (more acurately, what their bodies tell them to love.....same for everyone)

Well that's certainly taking hedonism to the extreme..

But fine, at the surface I guess I will say that sounds fine. But you're overlooking something HUGE..

In what manner are the phtotos and videos taken to begin with!? These are not, well the ones in question anyways, digitally animated. These are real children who are being exploited. In the videos, the children are being used for sex.

Or are you actually advocating it's okay for someone to use a ten year old for sex, video tape it, and then distribute the footage for other adults to "pleasure themselves to what they love"?

You have to look at the roots and not just the leaves.

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Originally posted by WishI
I am sorry for a completely pointless post....

but....... even though effing children is found to be un moral and wrong (and disgusting to those not born with the appreciation), when thought out with facts on life and a childs mentality.
(ok, so... it isnt completely wrong.....but, still..........)

I believe that childporn should be readily available to those that want it....
why are they not allowed to pleasure themselves to what they love? (more acurately, what their bodies tell them to love.....same for everyone)
sucks for them I know..... but really.... it should be allowed... the only problems are that alot of people can't stop with just looking..... and another problem is with the people who make the porn in the first place... if it was legal they would probably have more reason to go out and "make" it......

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though, alowing people to look at porn makes them want the real thing even more...... .....almost the same can be said about not allowing it at all.... ....without ever knowing what it is like... I bet that is a big helping hand for people to go out and experience it themselves.........

WOW! I never thought I'd hear something as ignorant as this being posted here.
But, I guess sick puppies abound everywhere....

[edit on 19-3-2008 by WishI]

LockwithNoKey,

Although I share your sentiments, I think we'd all rather hear your thoughts to what he said, rather then one emoticon.

**edited to add: sorry I missed the other part of your post cuz it was qouted weird. Although i'd still like to see more of your thoughts.

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Originally posted by Wal-MartWhinks
The subscription is hard to defend, but the giant collection maybe isn't. 8,000 pics at say 50 kB per pic would make about a 400 MB archive. That's stretching it but not impossible.

Nice break down of the math. I agree it's possible. Still, doesn't touch upon the fact he had a friggin monthly subscription to 'Sunshine Boys'..

Another question- where the hell is all this child porn? I've been all over the net and seen some nasty things but never that! Is it on the so-called "darknets"? Is it invitation-only? I didn't really expect to find anything nasty on Google, but a search for "Sunshine Boys" showed the usual links to the movies by that name.

You will fine plenty immoral and nasty sites using Google

But yeah, from what I gather, some of it is invite-only and such.

If you have seen some of the other threads on ATS, you will know people in law enforcment, important political figures, and even members of the judicial and supreme court have been linked directly to child porn. Some even running the rings!! SO yeah, that's why

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how is that ignorant? I think you may have used the wrong dis.

and to the cool lady above you who may be trashing their own image even talking to me seriously....

no I do not advocate it at all. I think it is evil and perverted
and even if the lust for a tiny body is ok...which heck... it is.... the only other thing I can see for people to lust after in a child is their naivety and weak and small minds.... which..... ugh.... I don't have the kind of understanding yet to know.....
It seems wrong....
and in the sense that I would stop it if I saw it.. it IS wrong... to me....
hmmmm..... I can't wrap my mind around all the holes that hot air of reason blows through in certain circumstancial settings..... so i can not feel the hot heat of answer.......
sorry I am trying to be artsy about perception ....or something
anyway... NOOOO.... not unless that specific child could be proved an incarnation of someone willing to do such things.... only then or something like then would I be able to be logicly ok with it

Originally posted by WishI
and to the cool lady above you who may be trashing their own image even talking to me seriously....

Hey were you refering to me? I think I know what you meant by that, but then again, I think I might have no clue

Okay, after reading your recent post it's obvious you're not actually advocating child porn, I think you're just making the point that there is a huge difference between viewing child porn and actually acting out the impluses. I completely agree with that. But my point was this:

The people that made these videos did act on those impluses. They actually did exploit vulnerable children for sex. Even if some just view the videos and never actually 'acts out the desire', they are in affect supporting the people that did. See? That's what I meant by looking at the roots and not the leaves.

btw, although sometimes I feel like a cool lady, I am actually a cool dude

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reply to post by WishI


Thank you for clarifying for all of us that you are not a pederist, i feel much better about you now.

My statement of observed ignorance was based on your assertion of the causes for this mental/physiological condition not being known. This is quite untrue as any first year student in any of the related fields could attest to.

The phenomenon of this unnatural impulse, which is what it is, is well understood by the social deviance crowd.

However, your opinion that offenders should be allowed to pursue their sickness openly is just wrong in my opinion.

They don't often hold AA meetings in a bar, nor NA at the local head shop.

Why? Because these are considered by many to be sickness as well, and we do not encourage those that are known deviants to engage in their fantasy or illicit behaviours. Why? Because we try to treat them instead.