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Originally posted by xmotex
The awful truth of it is that anti-semitic politicians in the West supported the creation of Israel, not out of love for the Jews, but because they saw a way to rid themselves of an unpopular religious minority, by shipping them off to a faraway desert.
I honestly wonder if they had the idea that once the Jews were all in one place, surrounded by hostile populations, it'd be easier to kill them off
U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)
Foreign Aid Grants and Loans - $74,157,600,000
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S. Aid to Israel
Grand Total - $84,854,827,200
Interest Costs Borne by U.S. - $49,936,680,000
Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers - $134,791,507,200
Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli - $23,240
The Washigton Report
Originally posted by AshleyD
Bush seems to be going against what Biblical prophecy calls for and also seems to be drifting towards the ecumenical movement. I think he is also driven more by power for the U.S. and personal recognition than he is for God.
Originally posted by Geemor
And you believe that people can choose which role to play in God's play?
Do you think that is man's responsibility to try to get all the prophecies fulfilled?
Remember that bible also said that there will be many imposters, and you fit description of false prophet.
Originally posted by AshleyD
I am going exactly by what the Bible is saying.
Originally posted by AshleyD
I am going exactly by what the Bible is saying. A "false prophet" would be in opposition to what the Bible says would happen.
Originally posted by TheStev
Dangerous to assume there can only be one interpretation of the text. Could you point out which verse says woe to those who divide the land of Israel? I believe that in such a verse one could easily interpret 'Israel' as 'God's People' or Christianity (just like every Christian I've ever known has done regarding prophecies about Israel) rather than the physical land of the contemporary state of Israel.
Originally posted by Geemor
False prophets or impostorers are not stupid, they surely are familiar with bible. No, instead they will make false interpretations and declare the coming of the messiah and God's kingdom and apocalypse. Or they will delibarately delude you with their knowledge of the word. If one isn't familiar with bible but yet considers herself a believer, she is easily betrayed by false prophet to believe in wrong teachings that necessarily aren't from bible, or they are but misinterpret.
Originally posted by AshleyD
You might want to check out this thread: Click Here. If you do not have the interest in reading the whole thing (we got a little off topic at times, then here are some comments from both Christians and Muslims concerning the Mahdi: HERE, HERE, HERE (Muslim), HERE (My reply), HERE (Muslim), HERE (My reply), and many more.
Look up some searches concerning Mahdi prophecies to see what is believed concerning him.
Originally posted by IvanZana
Here is the Ahmedinejad speech at the University.
If bush spoke like this you would trumpet him as a prophet.
[edit on 30-1-2008 by IvanZana]
Originally posted by ThePiemaker
Israel did not need to be built. It was completely unnecessary for Jews to have their own state. You're talking about arabs obsessing over that land but it's also the Jews who are obsessing over it. Why did the nation need to be built on that small bit of land? If you accept jewish reasons to build there as valid then I don't see how you can dismiss any muslims desire to defend and to keep that same "holy land".
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by lee anoma
I would agree with the original poster there, at least to a degree. Rather than accept their own Jewish citizens, nations in the west really pandered hard to get them to move out to Israel. All sorts of incentives, funding, promises. Anything to get the Jews out, and into a European colony-state.
Said colony state has been the excuse for western imperialism and aggression in the middle east ever sense. The gross amounts of funding is a rather new development, tied up strongly with the last several decades of evangelical Christians running the show. For their doomsday genocide by Sword-Tongue the Vengeful, there NEEDS to be a nation called Israel somewhere in the general location, after all.