Cop tasers man in eye

Well, we knew it was gonna happen sooner than later. A man was tasered by a cop in the eye. Report states man will probably loose eye from being tasered and shocked. This, besides killing people is inhuman to say the least. Cops need to get off there high horse of authority and start enforcing law instead of inflicting pain, death and crippling injury upon people. Cops no longer serve and protect. Instead they injure, kill, destroy property and treat the citizen as a convicted criminal before placing them before a judge.

Cop shoots taser in mans eye than shocks him.

[edit on 31-10-2007 by WorldShadow]

[edit on 31-10-2007 by WorldShadow]

Your link is incorrect. It links here, www.time.com...

Originally posted by WorldShadow
Well, we knew it was gonna happen sooner than later. A man was tasered by a cop in the eye. Report states man will probably loose eye from being tasered and shocked. This, besides killing people is inhuman to say the least. Cops need to get off there high horse of authority and start enforcing law instead of inflicting pain, death and crippling injury upon people. Cops no longer serve and protect. Instead they injure, kill, destroy property and treat the citizen as a convicted criminal before placing them before a judge.

Cop shoots taser in mans eye than shocks him.

[edit on 31-10-2007 by WorldShadow]

Think you posted the wrong link there, bro. Yours points to an article called "House Probes Blackwater Immunity".

Try this one instead Toronto Man Struck in Eye by Taser

I'm waiting for more information before I judge the officers on this one. It says that the man was involved in a domestic dispute and was confronted away from the scene. The officer involved called a senior officer and the senior office deployed the taser. Obviously he didn't aim for the guy's eye, that just happened to be where the taser hit. Before you condemn the police, you should wait and get the entire story. They may have been justified in using the taser.

I dunno what happened with the link. I corrected it and went to click edit and it some how took out the correct link and reposted the incorrect link after the edit. Than I re-edited the link and it seems to be ok now. Thanks for the heads up.

My computer must be infested with troubled spirits or something. Now I have a double post. I see that a lot on other threads to. must be something with the ATS server or internet. Strange indeed.

Originally posted by BlueTriangle
Before you condemn the police, you should wait and get the entire story. They may have been justified in using the taser.

My son is a cop. I don't believe they were justified to take the guys eye out. It was careless how the taser was handled and administered.

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With all the media coverage of tasing, it is no surprise that some would jump to the conclusion that this is a case of brutality.

From reading the article, it is still too early to make that jump.

I think we have to wait and see what comes of the investigation,

Or another more detailed article or video surfaces.

I am concerned with the recent stories as well, but I can't say either way what category this incident falls under.

Not enough information to draw a conclusion, but thanks for posting this story, we can keep an eye out and see where this one leads

I'm not making any judgment on this, as the details are pretty sketchy. But would same cop have been within his duty to put a .40 caliber round through the guy?

Because that is what the taser was supposed to replace doing. It wasn't meant to be something to keep an officer from getting his pants dirty taking down a suspect or subduing someone. It wasn't meant to be used as a control, like an electronic shock collar for a dog.

Now this case may indeed have been one where it was either shoot the person with the taser, or use deadly force with a pistol. But in many cases I see tasers being used as a way to avoid any contact with a suspect, and to force them to obey or suffer.

Before any of my friends that are cops point out that people are supposed to obey a cop, bear in mind that this is not always true. Just as in the military, an unlawful order is not to be obeyed.

And too, there is the "obedience habit" that police take. Because they have a tool that makes people obey, then they are less likely to care about interacting with people. Because police can use this force more easily than a pistol, they become more separated from the general public. But the real separation between officers and the general public is when instant obedience is expected, and replaces the need to do more than issue commands.

The danger is how easily the taser creates an ideal environment for the "us" and "them" mindset to cement. The power to have instant verbal obedience makes "king" personalities. With such power it is the "king's" word that is obeyed, not just the law. Soon enough, in the mind of the "king", there is no difference between his word and the law.

Dangerous.

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My brother, uncle, and cousin are cops but that doesn't make me an expert on the subject. Sorry dude, no offense but you can't let emotion rule your judgement. We need to know all the facts or else you have anarchy.

The face sure is a small target to hit with a taser. Maybe the drunk guy bent down as the taser was being fired.

On that same note, I'm surprised more men haven't been tased in the testicles.

Peace

Originally posted by Daz3d-n-Confus3d
reply to post by WorldShadow

 

My brother, uncle, and cousin are cops but that doesn't make me an expert on the subject. Sorry dude, no offense but you can't let emotion rule your judgement. We need to know all the facts or else you have anarchy.

My judgement is the cop used poor judgement when administering the shock after the stinger went into the guys eye. The cop should have taken notice of this before inflicting further force to acquire any type of obediance. My reference to my son as a cop reflects my position on cops in general. I placed him on that path and I would be a cop if it were not for my health. I have my own experience with over zealous cops who make there own laws rather than enforce the book statute laws.

This is just one more reason for citizens to always wear safety glasses while in public.

This has been something I have been considering for a very long time.

The eye is perhaps the most vulnerable organ and most of us walk around everyday as though we can get replacements at WalMart.

In this age of photochromatic, polycarbonate lenses, every man, woman, and child alive should be required by law to own and wear a serviceable pair of UV ray filtering, polycarbonate eyeglasses.

Of course, in socialist countries, the appliances will be provided free of charge.

In this story, the use or misuse of the taser is only half the story.

Regardless of the other variables, had this poor soul been wearing a pair of safety eyewear, his eye would not be in jeopardy today.


[edit on 2007/10/31 by GradyPhilpott]

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Eh... the guy got frigging blinded and you blame him for not having sunglasses? Are you serious or are you being sarcastic...?

Anyway, poor guy... I cant imagine the horror of losing one of my eyes. Im very happy to be living in a country where we dont have these sick tasors, and cops know how to handle people without hurting them. I guess thats not important in the US of A...

Originally posted by Copernicus
reply to post by GradyPhilpott

 

Eh... the guy got frigging blinded and you blame him for not having sunglasses? Are you serious or are you being sarcastic...?

I think Grady was just trying to point out safety glasses might be a good thing to wear, to protect yourself from whatever might happen to your eyes.

They are very vulnerable after all..

Safety was always stressed when I was in the military as a mechanic,

standard issue safety glasses were required.

He just gave us something to think about, another angle,

You got your safety glasses on?

I got mine

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No, I dont wear glasses... no need over here to protect the eyes from crazy cops.

Yes, I may have overreacted a bit... I just feel sorry for the guy. Losing an eye is a life long misery. And it wont help with the girls... I hear the pirate look has been out for a long time.



[edit on 31-10-2007 by Copernicus]

Could be he shot the taser and pulled the trigger because the man was attacking him?? I don't know and neither do you. If the guy was attacking him and he did it as a defense response he didn't have time to think, he might have just reacted. If this was the case then the guy should be glad it was a taser and not a 9mm bullet through the eye.
Of course this is all just speculation on my part just as it is on yours. The cop could have just done it for the thrill. I was just pointing out that we still don't know exactly what happened. Cops are people and they do make mistakes. Also I don't see where it said he lost the eye. I'm sure he did but with modern medicine who knows, maybe they can save it.

Originally posted by WorldShadow

Originally posted by BlueTriangle
Before you condemn the police, you should wait and get the entire story. They may have been justified in using the taser.

My son is a cop. I don't believe they were justified to take the guys eye out. It was careless how the taser was handled and administered.

You seem to assume that the guy was purposefully shot in the eye, which I think is kind of ridiculous. They are trained to aim at the body and try to avoid hitting the head or groin.

That's pretty crazy. They have a laser sight on them do they not? I doubt he meant to aim for his eye but nonetheless how could you hit someone so high up? He must have been aiming for his head which is still not cool.

Originally posted by sanctum
Your link is incorrect. It links here, www.time.com...

No it doesn't.

I'm surprised the guy isn't brain dead or something, having that kind of juice pumped directly into his eye socket.

It's a bit much for a case of drunk and disorderly - in-appropiate force if you ask me what i think.

Originally posted by NGC2736
I'm not making any judgment on this, as the details are pretty sketchy. But would same cop have been within his duty to put a .40 caliber round through the guy?

Because that is what the taser was supposed to replace doing. It wasn't meant to be something to keep an officer from getting his pants dirty taking down a suspect or subduing someone. It wasn't meant to be used as a control, like an electronic shock collar for a dog.

I'm curious where you got that definition of taser use. Maybe it varies from department to department or something. I've always understood that the taser was used as an alternative to strikes with a night stick, not instead of a bullet. The argument was that a taser shot causes much less physical damage than several strikes with a night stick.

Again, we don't know the entire story here. If it turns out that this guy was resisting arrest and the officer felt that he was in danger of physical harm from the suspect, he has every right to use the taser. That's what they're worn for.