Undercover Agents in Schools - about time

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This is somewhat of an old storym but its about time schools took the initiative to control the rampant drug problem plaguing our country.

Apparently big brother is the answer yep.

Originally posted by Harassment101
Apparently big brother is the answer yep.

Having a PI bust drug running kids is not in any way shape or form a Big Brother like action.

It's just a school clamping down on a drug problem and I don't see anything wrong with it.

In fact, more schools should take this approach, drugs are a big problem in schools, I know this personally, when I was at secondary school we had a massive drug problem and the culprits were never caught.

Drugs are not the problem. Its society thats forcing kids to do these things because they are either bored or depressed with the way the world works. Not every child wants to grow up to be a lawyer, CEO or some other douchebag.

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Drugs are not the problem. Its society thats forcing kids to do these things because they are either bored or depressed with the way the world works. Not every child wants to grow up to be a lawyer, CEO or some other douchebag.

It's the parents and child's fault if said child is bored or depressed, not society.

As for the article itself, it is a good idea on the surface,however, when combined with the Zero Tolerance policy, I can see a lot of kids being severely punished for very minor rule/law violations.

[edit on 19-4-2007 by tebyen]

Its parents and drugs faulty dually. The parents dont teach the kids values, and our culture says its ok to do drugs. If the parents dont do the job the DEA will have to. And then the parents complain for "you cant arrest my kids" bull..

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Drugs are not the problem. Its society thats forcing kids to do these things because they are either bored or depressed with the way the world works. Not every child wants to grow up to be a lawyer, CEO or some other douchebag.

So your saying a person who is a CEO is a worse profession than a drug dealer?

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[edit on 20/4/2007 by Mirthful Me]

Ok so fine I will let your kids take drugs and OD on them and die. If you dont do your job someone else will have to.

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[edit on 20/4/2007 by Mirthful Me]

I thought they already had 'undercover students' in the states~

Well I graduated back in the late 80's. Where I went to high school at they had them in there. I knew one of them, even though I wasn't suppose to. I kept my mouth shut though.

My brother was so young looking still, when he became an officer, they used him in the schools for a very long time. This was in the early to mid 90's

And people that try to make sure that our younglings don’t get high is a bad thing how?
Kids shouldn’t do drugs; I would think that this is fairly obvious to anyone.

I think that deep down we know this is much more than drugs. I am sure drugs are the excuse given to start a precident that will lead to God knows where. In order to bring about a complete police state the children must be programed at the earliest age possible.

If you read the first comment after the article, the person says, yeah that's all we need, kids getting use to being watched at an early age. Eg. Big Brother.

I think it's just one more way to control the masses. I think drugs are a bad idea, but I think the so called war on drugs is an even worst idea. Something in the society is causing kids to want to take drugs, why don't we examine that more, and find out why this phenomenon goes all the way up the line.

I just don't think that narcs in school, busting kids for weed possesion is going to get the world anywhere. They will have records, and other issues because of this.

In the article none of them were hard drug kids, and giving them a record probably does not solve this problem in the long run. We need to find a way to address the need for drugs.

10 years ago, people would have laughed at a smoke free hotels, resturants, and workplaces, but societal changes can happen, you just have to go about them in the right ways.

Originally posted by Harassment101
yeah that's all we need, kids getting use to being watched at an early age. Eg. Big Brother.

If you consider “Big Brother” parents yeah, when I have kid’s I intend to watch them.

I think it's just one more way to control the masses. I think drugs are a bad idea, but I think the so called war on drugs is an even worst idea.

It’s to control teenagers doing drugs, how can you be against that. I’m totally for the legalization of drugs, but teens should not be allowed to do them, and if it takes “snitches” to combat teens doing drugs then I’m fine with that.

I just don't think that narcs in school, busting kids for weed possesion is going to get the world anywhere.

How about getting the teens somewhere?

In the article none of them were hard drug

For a teen any intoxicant is vary bad. A teen’s brain is still forming and any intoxicant can interfere with that process.


[edit on 20-4-2007 by Mr Mxyztplk]

Anyone who has ever been close to a drug-user/alcoholic or has worked with them, knows that force doesn't work, ever. The user will always find a way around said force. If it were that simple, and force worked, we would have little to no drug users in the U.S.

THe laws against drugs don't make sense anyway and are not classified according to how dangerous they are, they're classified according to what is political expediency.

this is just going to get kids to do worse things. a child is validated when they see their actions have real repercussions. having a cop walking around the school is just gonna make it seem cooler if you can get away.

i'm also not sure if this is about drugs or about controlling the kids more. i'm a substitute teacher at a high school and the kids aren't allowed to do ANYTHING.

they say it's for the best, i say it's gonna have some serious negative consequences. but i'm just a lowly sub so why would they listen to me?

you also gotta figure what they mean by drugs. are they looking for kids who are selling coke and heroin, or are they just looking for a kid who has a couple joints? to some of you that might not seem like a difference because they're all "illegal drugs" but there is a HUGE difference. and don't pull that "gateway" BS, I've been smoking pot for years and have never even tried any "hard drugs," as is the case with most kids.

all i'm saying is that this is the absolute worst approach they could take. gain the trust of the students so that they'll listen to you, don't just throw a cop in there because it will piss them off(and make them think that the administrators have no control without a police presence)

Don't be fooled. Children are taking drugs because it is the intent of the FDA and pharmaceutical companies to get them on drugs and keep them there. That's how they make their money.

First, the media is pushing drug use as acceptable. Haven't you noticed all of the massive amount of TV commercials pushing drugs directly to consumers.

ADHD is a fictitious disease created to get children on drugs at an early age. The only reason kids have hyperactivity or attention-related issues is because of the chemicals that are in the food they eat. Clean up the diet and the problem goes away. Schools get awarded more funds based on the number of children they have on medication. So of course they are going to push drugs on the kids for their own benefit.

There is no difference between illegal drugs and prescription drugs. The truth is that prescription drugs kill more Americans each year than all the crack, meth, and heroin deaths combined.


Here are some portions of the NewsTarget article: "The raw (and ugly) truth about the war on drugs":

Here's the raw, blunt truth about the war on drugs. Drugs are declared legal or illegal based primarily on who benefits from their manufacture, distribution and sale.

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It's a classic racket: tobacco is allowed to remain legal because powerful institutions get a cut of the action. While people die from lung cancer, states get financial resuscitation by taking a cut of every sale. States are trading your health for their revenues.

Source: The raw (and ugly) truth about the war on drugs

Society needs to wake up and really understand that our entire society is being completely manipulated and we're just letting it happen. We're blaming everyone else and not the real culprits here - the FDA, the Food Industry and the Pharmaceutical Industry.

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Woo talk about blantent smoke and mirror tactics let's target the bottom feeders instead of the people at the top so everybody thinks we're doing a good job How about putting more agents into drug cartels and dealing gangs and actually stop the drugs from getting to the kids. Oh wait cause that would make too much sense? or would it expose the level of corruption in officals and agencies such as the CIA. If anything this going to make the kids alot more smarter dealers at an earlier age. Which is probably the desired outcome if you believe drugs are a global policy that has been enforced to pay for certain things.

it's all bogus...there are so many "illegal" drugs that have less than half of the harmful side effects of most of the prescription drugs you can get today. marijuana, mushrooms, peyote, etc. are all born of the earth and have virtually no harmful side effects if taken in moderation. this argument is a slippery slope, however, since one could say that opium, heroin, and coc aine are OK because they also come from the earth, even though they have been proven to be hazardous to your health

either way, you can't do illegal drugs, but you can OD on Xanax, percocet, vicodin, OCs, and whatever else the pharm. corporations and government can make a lot of money off of(all of the man-made chemicals, go figure..."YOU CAN'T DO THESE DRUGS, BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THESE DANGEROUS ONES THAT WE MADE!")

[edit on 2-6-2007 by Sacreligion]