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Originally posted by Infoholic
Originally posted by wildcat
The British were busy fighting other nations besides France during the time of our revolution. My memory is bad, but I think it was the Seven Years War. Great Britian couldn't of focused all their forces at the time so it seems like we did have luck. Maybe the founding fathers purposly declared independance when GB was busy.
Which one of the seven years wars? There were three of them.
1563–1570 war - Nordic Seven Years' War
1592–1598 war - Korea
1754 and 1756–1763 - America
Mind you, the American Revolution was 1775-1783, well after the seven years war.
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Originally posted by Infoholic
Originally posted by Starvald
In 1778 the french "assisted" the to be United States in their quest. The french did not win it for them. They "helped". Yes, as history has depicted, the assistance from the french was crucial, but that's not the point I was trying to make.
[edit on 3/9/2007 by Infoholic]
They only helped because they hated the British, unlike American propaganda history books say. If the French didn't hate the British, then they would of never helped.
Originally posted by Starvald
Yeah its fair enough to have it as an ideal, but it isnt practiced and your goverment has slippd into a tyranny, great load of good it did you. Theres also the fact that despite having all these lofty ideologys in your constitution, your constitution is routinely ignored and violated by your goverment. So yes, it is severly antiqauted and completely void.
Originally posted by wildcat
They only helped because they hated the British, unlike American propaganda history books say. If the French didn't hate the British, then they would of never helped.
Originally posted by Starvald
They helpd because they controlld most of the American continent but basicaly any excuse to screw us they would take.
Originally posted by Starvald
Yes it has. You goverment employs cruel and arbitrary exercise of power or control, that is a tyranny. Right and even then, say you personaly believe your goverment isnt a tyranny, thats fine, thats up to you how does the right to bear arms stop your goverment from from slipping in to a tyranny exactly? you think people would actually rise up against your goverment?, lol.
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster in `An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution', 1787, a pamphlet aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphlets on the Constitution of the United States, at 56(New York, 1888))
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That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Originally posted by Starvald
you know what the Louisiana Purchase was yeah?
Originally posted by Starvald
It is according to most dictionaries
Originally posted by Starvald
then why ahvent they?, your goverment is un constitutional.
Originally posted by Starvald
LOL Wildcat the Sun King had to control fluctuating land prices and subjegate the Netherlands, he also was # scared of William. Why dont you actually read real history.
Originally posted by Infoholic
Originally posted by wildcat
The French lost most of their territory in North America before the American Revolution.
Can you point out exactly which "other" territories you might be referencing?