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Originally posted by metro
On Sept. 28th, the US eliminated the writ Habeas Corpus - a law since the 1200's.
that's funny. since the 1200s. didnt realize the american indians had written laws.
Originally posted by etshrtslr
Habeas Corpus is a legal principle dating back to the 1200's from the English Magna Carta.
en.wikipedia.org...
S.3930
SEC. 7. HABEAS CORPUS MATTERS.
(a) In General- Section 2241 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by striking both the subsection (e) added by section 1005(e)(1) of Public Law 109-148 (119 Stat. 2742) and the subsection (e) added by added by section 1405(e)(1) of Public Law 109-163 (119 Stat. 3477) and inserting the following new subsection (e):
`(e)(1) No court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination.
`(2) Except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3) of section 1005(e) of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (10 U.S.C. 801 note), no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any other action against the United States or its agents relating to any aspect of the detention, transfer, treatment, trial, or conditions of confinement of an alien who is or was detained by the United States and has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination.'.
(b) Effective Date- The amendment made by subsection (a) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act, and shall apply to all cases, without exception, pending on or after the date of the enactment of this Act which relate to any aspect of the detention, transfer, treatment, trial, or conditions of detention of an alien detained by the United States since September 11, 2001.
Originally posted by snafu7700
that's funny. since the 1200s. didnt realize the american indians had written laws.
Originally posted by snafu7700
once again, an opinion has been stated without the facts. this bill does not apply to american citizens....only to aliens determined to be enemy combatants:
Originally posted by snafu7700
how about presenting the facts next time metro.
Originally posted by snafu7700
once again, an opinion has been stated without the facts. this bill does not apply to american citizens....only to aliens determined to be enemy combatants:
Originally posted by metro
Please refer to these links for verification of American rights being torn away.
If you think any of this is slanted, then maybe you deserve to have your rights taken away.
Habeas Corpus has not been suspended. It has been eliminated.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
snafu7700: And you don't know the abuse about Patriot Act... they said it wouldn't be use against US citizens... they lied, at least 5.000 people were arrested and jailed for no crimes because of the Patriot Act.
And how would you prove you're a US citizen when they take you to jail, and you don't have any form of trial? Would you take the chance?
``(3) ALIEN.--The term `alien' means a person who is not
a citizen of the United States.
948c. Persons subject to military commissions
``Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by
military commission under this chapter.
Source
``(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT.--(A) The term `unlaw-
ful enemy combatant' means--
``(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who
has purposefully and materially supported hostilities
against the United States or its co-belligerents who is
not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who
is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces);
or ``(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of
the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006,
has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant
by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another com-
petent tribunal established under the authority of the
President or the Secretary of Defense.
``(B) CO-BELLIGERENT.--In this paragraph, the term `co-
belligerent', with respect to the United States, means any State
or armed force joining and directly engaged with the United
States in hostilities or directly supporting hostilities against
a common enemy.