Wake Up: Ufos Are Man Made Machines!!!!!!

All the alien mind parafernalia that one swallows and another vomites on an endless copy paste disseminated like viruses through the media and the internet is all engenieered govervenmental crap to confuse our little and innocent heads, leading us to think that these species "must be very advanced"..... WRONG!! THERE'S NO ALIENS!!! SORRY!!!

Its all TERRESTRIAL TECHNOLOGY behind ufos, technology wich exists for more than 60 years, invented initially by the great genius called Nikola Tesla and perfected by the US military after the second war with the efforts of Nazi rocket scientist Von Braun and his crew, after being taken to the US under the famous Paperclip op.

AND LOOK, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT AIR TURBINES UFOS WITH MERCEDES MOTORS, PATENTS AND PLANTS LIKE THEY LOVE TO SHOW US, LEADING US TO BELIEVE MORE IN THOSE CRAPPY UFO GEEK DOCS THAN THE "OFFICIAL 'it was a baloon' VERSION", THAT'S JUST MOOORE CRAP!!
I'm talking about 9000km front and turn 30º up - that's slightly different than what you see in history or scifi or even some supposelly harcore ufo geek videos, they foece you to think that any terrestrial developments on the ufo field were all with air compression jets, but that's only to deceive us one more time!!

THINK FOR A SECOND: the ufos that you see poping up everywhere wich are recorded on video cameras, testomonies, in photos, i mean at least 1% must be real, so they exist, thats a fact, no discussion on that point.

BUT, what isn't a fact is that they are truly from "another planet"!!!!!

Its all mind # to keep our little heads busy, thinking in tinfoil hats, i tell you, these ufos, these crafts, these ships are certaintly not from zeta reticulli with some little grey men with big dark eyes or draco reptilians or pleidians, thats completely bull#, PLAIN HOLLYWOOD.GOV mindbending subliminal PROPAGANDA!!!
Like PEARL HARBOUR movie or the newest ROAD TO GUANTANAMO!!!!!


Photos, sightings and videos are one thing - but they don't prove these events are "alien" by themselves because.... where's the alien?
So if there's no aliens over here how can people see them and remember them??
This only occurs on an alien abduction, right?

So what if itell you that these fascist violent acts are nothing but kidnapping the right kind of people, using hardcore drugs like scopolamine along with a serious dose of hypnosis, and with the right set, scenario and costumes, you could easily shout out loud that you were abdcuted by aliens, specially when you've been cirurgically operated, cause in this phase they cab easily insert the chips they wanted to, and leave the scars and markings they want, they can even use you as a guinea pig for what not, all this just to prove you were there, on a spaceship!!!!
Ever heard of Mkultra?
Here's a clear example where the drugs developed and studied on this project could have been used and abused...

All this just to deceive people into thinking that for example NASA has the most advanced technology in the world, this while they fill up a train with coal to the very tip, point it up and call it SPACE SHUTTLE...
i mean burning fossil fuel as a technology had its peak in the industrial revolution 1800's, how the hell is this high-tech???

SO WHY IS THE WORLD SUCH A MESS???
WARS FOR RESOURCES, MISERY AND FAMINE - IS IT POSSIBLE THAT FREE ENERGY DEVICES ALREADY EXIST FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS???

And that they are not being shared with the rest of the world just because 1% of these greedy sons of bitches want to fill up their pockets even more, we 99% have to tight our belts even more=???
When or how is this going to stop?

Stop swallowing govermental garbage, ufos are human machines running for free on surpressed technology.


Did you see that ufo on the news today?
That one could power Chicago.......


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Originally posted by wwwar
Its all TERRESTRIAL TECHNOLOGY behind ufos, technology wich exists for more than 60 years, invented initially by the great genius called Nikola Tesla

Being a Tesla fan (even the music group) I've never heard/read of him coming up with the tech for UFO's, I would love to read this you have links?

Would 'tirade' be the correct word we are looking for? Kind of interesting ... But nothing that I havent read here before.

Originally posted by EvilBat

Originally posted by wwwar
Its all TERRESTRIAL TECHNOLOGY behind ufos, technology wich exists for more than 60 years, invented initially by the great genius called Nikola Tesla

Being a Tesla fan (even the music group) I've never heard/read of him coming up with the tech for UFO's, I would love to read this you have links?

Take a look at this projectcamelot.org... - you may find this fascinating with regard to Tesla and his proteges developing UFO tech.

Interesting link most of the projects they speak of are in 50's and the 60's
i've seen the photos of te usnavy saucers and stuff
but if tesla came up with ufo tech then
first he would need a time machine to go back in time to start the sightings
example ezekials (sp) flying wheel and the flying scroll (way before teslas birth hence time machine)
that is 2 examples of ufo before tesla was born which means telsa didn't do the
ufo tech unless he had a time machine of some sorts
unless you you pull in the phily and mauntok (sp) prodjects which only go on the years of 4 and 20 then maybe but would take a lot of work hidden from public from the dawn of time to even smelt the metal forf a machine like that

Well you say it all started 60 years ago or so. what about these ancient Paintings about objects in the sky? There's no way man had the capability to make these things back then.

Link

wheres your proof that all ufos are man made
are there man made ufos yes i believe there are are all ufos man made no!
if there is any one in this world who could build a ufo Telsa would be that man

wwwar do you even have the slight sense of how big the universe is? I guess you don't because if you did you would realise how dumb your assumptions are.

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I see a lot of People trying to make fun but seriously you say wheres the proof UFOs are manmade when the real question is where is the proof that they are not. Aliens visiting Earth is pure fiction and fairy tales in my mind they are the same as fairys, Unicorns, Bigfoot.elfs etc etc

There is not one tiny shred of real evidence to say UFOS are alien they are by the very definition just unidentified. In my mind most UFOs are just down to the ignorance of the observer not being able to identify things as simple as a baloon a blimp a hobby rocket the list can go on because theres actually an awful lot of stuff we have put in the sky never mind planets etc.

I dont think UFOs are Alien and while some sightings are down to people misidentifying military craft most are fairly common phenomena misidentified or people drunk and halucinating.

Just to make my point again theres absolutely no evidence whatsoever UFOs are Alien in any way none at all. Theres absolutely no evidence Aliens are any more real than santa and the tooth fairy.

To put it bluntly Earth is not being visited reexamine your beliefs and do some "real" research.

...and we wonder why the aliens aren't making contact with us.





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Wow! That was a real dose of adrenaline shooting into wwwar's veins!
Ok. we get your point. This world is a darn mess!

No doubt there are some UFOs of Earthly origin. Some gen here..

But most, I believe, are alien.

Id just like to bring up two points:

1. The Drake Equation

2. If the UFO's are just a man made product of Nikola Tesla's inventions then how do you explain sighting, paintings, rock paintings, sculptures and references dating back thousands of years of the UFO/alien phenomenon ?


I think you need to go back to the drawing board and have a re-think.

I think this thread was started just to get some worked up and then the arguing could commense,

For myself I know they are real and as it's been stated where is your proof?

Originally posted by helium3
Id just like to bring up two points:

1. The Drake Equation

2. If the UFO's are just a man made product of Nikola Tesla's inventions then how do you explain sighting, paintings, rock paintings, sculptures and references dating back thousands of years of the UFO/alien phenomenon ?


I think you need to go back to the drawing board and have a re-think.

I know these questions are not intended for me but I'm going to answer them anyways

1. The Drake Equasion is meaningless we dont know the variables and the answer could easily be 1 we will never know the variables which makes it for all purposes useless. On the other hand how do you explain the Fermi paradox?

2: It's art it could be anything the artist can imagine most were depictions of halos or other religious meanings how you come to the conclusion that anything in the sky even in art is a UFO piloted by aliens says a lot. Humans back then had all the imagination we have now we really havent evolved very much if this keeps up we will have people in the future finding comic books and believing in the god the amazing spiderman.

I think you need to go back to the drawing board.

If they were man made then, like Concord, they would be commercialised and we would be paying $$$,$$$,$$$ or £££,£££,£££ to fly from America to Europe in super fast time!! No need to wait!

Virgin Flying Object (VFO)
British Flying Object (BFO)
American Flying Object (AFO)

Do you really think it's a tech that would not be capitalised?

Originally posted by Shamanator
2: It's art it could be anything the artist can imagine most were depictions of halos or other religious meanings

I dont like to make assumptions BUT that statement really makes me think your knowledge and understanding on art and Ufology is minimal.

Wow, thats the first time i have see a guy sit in a halo



Another halo shooting a laser beam of sorts ?



That halo is like 300 feet above the guys head?



This guys halo is that far away he need an eye piece to view it ?





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While the first picture you post is hard to explain I dont know enough about it to try most likely it was just the artists imagination the rest easily fit into my description as religious. They seem to be mainly depictions of God and I see nothing about them that suggests anything to do with Aliens.

In short they prove nothing but you see what you want to see they certainly dont prove Aliens.

Edited: All those UFO in ancient art pics are thoroughly debunked here along with their real meanings.

UFO Art Debunked










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I need to quantify one point here. Operation Paperclip seems to be taken out of context time and again on sites like this. It was not a secret program for German rocet scientists to build UFOs. It was an operation that suspended intense scrutiny of immigrant visas to the US from Europe in post WW 2. Werhner von Braun and his collegues had plenty to do with finding solutions to missile problems and build a basis for space travel. They had absolutely nothing to do with creating disc-shaped craft or UFOs of any kind unless a an old A-4(V-2) is a UFO.

Operation Paperclip allowed many people permission to work for the US in foreign lands. In 1947 more than half of the OSS- forerunner of the CIA- operatives were ex-Nazis. And that classification is only used in retrospect by those who believe all Germans were Nazis. The OSS needed people who were ruthless enough and indigenous to the areas to deal with Eastern European Soviet espionage.

Von Braun and his crew made progress on newer missile systems that came into service use like the Redstones and ultimately the Atlas to send men into space.

I believe, with all due respect, that wwwar is making the same erroneous assumption that his counterparts are who insist that all UFOs are alien. Both sides base their opinions on limited substantial evidential data. Just how does he KNOW that all UFO are terrestrial in origin. He talks about speed and maneuvers that no piloted man-made craft can duplicate. Just how did bonifide 7000MPH radar contacts repeatedly appear and were chased over Washington DC in 1952 when world jet turbine development was at its pinnacle with the MiG 15 and the F-86, for example?

Assuming that UFOs all have some Tesla-esk power source is without substantiation since during Tesla's lifetime no force of that magnitude was ever demonstrated. Creating virtually free electricity via minor initial power source is a far cry from motive power for a massive UFO's performance.

The theme seems actually to be more of one aimed at complaining about alleged government atrocities than anything constructive in the area of theories about the UFO phenomena.

Sorry but I can't find anything constructive in this rambling rant.

Originally posted by wwwar

Stop swallowing govermental garbage, ufos are human machines running for free on surpressed technology.

Simple question.

Why?

The modern "UFO age" started in 1947, or there abouts. Why have that tech for nearly 50 years and do nothing with it except spook people?

Whats it for? Whats its pupose if its man made?

Man made ufo here on abt


And i googled man made ufo

It linked to books, i have 4 of them

it gave extra link to roswell info


My Avatar pictures Tesla in front of a flat coil, take your elementary tube of
magnetism around a current in a copper wire and visualize 40 to 80 times
stronger radiating out from the center. Any airborne or aether current will
react with force upon the coil, I know Tesla never told us, general electricity
class has magnets. But not how Tesla used them.

As an isolated system its a wireless trolly car that generates force in any direction,
it has control of the athmosphere due to large coil on the floor, except in lightning
storms which they must escape from.