The Mayans and St Malachi - timing coincides

Yeah, there is a LOT of prophesies.

I have always thought that you could hide a few diamonds in a pile of coal. With enough bad/failed prophesies, you could hide any good prophesies. Many believe in none because of so many failed predictions.

We all know about the Mayan prophesies and its calendar that points to a change for man at the end of 2012.

Then, on the other side of the planet, we have St Malachi's prophesies. As most know, he predicted all future popes with good accuracy. According to him, we are on our last good pope.

Now, there are many other prohesies that I think do hold water, but I want to focus on these two because they are coinciding within the very near future.

It would be impossible for the Mayan and the Malachi prophesies to coordinate the timing from so far in the past. It is uncanny that these two events are about to coincide.

To me, it shows that there is going to be something coming over the horizon and it will get hard.

I know many don't think any of this is true, however, I think it is mostly because of so many false predictions that make folks just dismiss all of them as false.

This timing coming up soon I think has more believability than at any other time in our known past.

It is time to take this a bit more seriously. I just wish I knew where it would safe for my family.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by godservant


To me, it shows that there is going to be something coming over the horizon and it will get hard.


This timing coming up soon I think has more believability than at any other time in our known past.

It is time to take this a bit more seriously. I just wish I knew where it would safe for my family.

Thoughts?

Well said, godservant...this is the time when we are on the edge more than ever before. Even the Great Wars combined do not have the potential dangers that seem to lie just ahead.

Prophecies are warnings, and if we fail to heed them we may regret it.

it seems like we can'rt change it because it is written. I am of high hopes though..I just hope we don't have to go the whole "9" yards to accomplish the next phase.

So are we just talking about the 2012 end of the world kind of thing? Or is there some other specific prophesy on the horizon?

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I believe there are a great deal of more prophesies that coincide with the same time frame.

Due to passages from the Bible (Both old and new testaments) bible scholars predicted in the mid 1880s that 1914 would produce something the world had not seen to date. They were right. The first time the entire world new war simultaneously, WWI. Bible scholars also said (due to scripture quoting Christ) that it would be this generation (the generation of 1914) that would see great things never before seen, and endure a lot. A generation is 120 years. So, 120 years from 1914 would be (no later than) 2034, which is not far off time frame of the Malachi and Mayan predictions. It will be interesting to see what happens, and even more interesting to see how people deal with it.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
A generation is 120 years.

Curious to know where that figure comes from. I thought a generation was commonly considered to be somewhere between 20-25 years. Biblically, maybe approximately 40?

Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
A generation is 120 years.

Curious to know where that figure comes from. I thought a generation was commonly considered to be somewhere between 20-25 years. Biblically, maybe approximately 40?

Biblically, a generation is 40 years. For example, the Jews wandered the desert for 40 years because their generation was doomed not to see the land of milk and honey.

The life span of man in the Bible ranges from 0 to 900 or so during the time of Abraham but what has become the average life span of man or optimal life span is referred in the Bible as 120 years.

Originally posted by RebelSaint
The life span of man in the Bible ranges from 0 to 900 or so during the time of Abraham but what has become the average life span of man or optimal life span is referred in the Bible as 120 years.

Thanks. I don't disagree, I've just always made a distinction between "life span" and "generation".

Originally posted by RebelSaint

The life span of man in the Bible ranges from 0 to 900 or so during the time of Abraham but what has become the average life span of man or optimal life span is referred in the Bible as 120 years.

I forget what passage states it, and I know I'm paraphrasing, but:

At some point after our (humanity's) eviction, or perhaps after the flood, mankind's life would not exceed 120 years, until the end of times.

Originally posted by godservant
Yeah, there is a LOT of prophesies.



A. We all know about the Mayan prophesies and its calendar that points to a change for man at the end of 2012.

B. Then, on the other side of the planet, we have St Malachi's prophesies. As most know, he predicted all future popes with good accuracy. According to him, we are on our last good pope.

...It would be impossible for the Mayan and the Malachi prophesies to coordinate the timing from so far in the past. It is uncanny that these two events are about to coincide....



C. It is time to take this a bit more seriously. I just wish I knew where it would safe for my family.

Thoughts?

concerning A & B:

wasn't the Maya calendar, using both their own observations and those of the Olemics'...fashioned as early as ~750AD?? but their calander and prophecies foretold their own demise around the Spanish invasion of 4 March 1519 AD

wasn't the SaintMalachy succession-of-Popes prediction, ~1138 AD

now, both of these 'forecasts' have endured, and both have prominence from the general insights of other Seers,Gurus,Oracles,Sages...
Perhaps that is reason enough to delve deeper into the mysteriousness and try to make connecting threads between these two prophetic predictions....the Mayan being a function of cyclic changes...the Malachy being a more focused prediction but having a flexible~definite end date.

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St Malachy predicts that Pope JohnPaul II's successor will be an active peace-making member of the religious heirarchy. But he will die in 2008 with his work unfinished and the next pope- called Peter of Rome (Peterus Romanus) will rule until the Apocalypse in 2020.

as far as C;
if i had the wherewithall, i'd take my extended family to Iceland.

Afterthought
isn't it serendipitous that these end-times memes, actually work well with this consumer-consumption society. In-as-much that a 'grab the gusto' or similar attitude is a great part of the middle-class mindset & lifestyle.
mumble to myself... [just how did they know that westernized, consumerism, with built-in obsolesence would be the leading force of the day] as a tamed version of the 'eat-drink-be merry- -for tomorrow we die'...or the casual errosion of ethics & morals by clergy, lawmakers, business leaders, et al

As for where in the bible it is decreed that man should live for 120 years, it can be found near the begining of the Old Testament. In Genesis 6:3

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

The actual decline though of mankind's lifespan is recorded in the bible not to have started until after the Flood. God decried this to be so when Noah had reached the age of 500. For a good timeline of this (unless you wish to read Genesis 11:10-32 would be God's Limit on Man's Years

kenshiro2012,

Thanks alot for the clarification. We appreciate it. I spent about 20 minutes looking for that passage last night, but had to give up before I found it due to the fact I had other things to do.

Thanks again.

I think "this generation" refers to this particular age of mankind's fleshly development. "This generation" is the time period encompassing homo sapiens.

The human form has gone through several transformations. And after certain events (soon to take place), the human form will go through a "rehabilitation of the flesh". The new age will be the age of the Transhuman and the homo sapien will go the way of the Neanderthal.

When the chemical composition of earth's atmosphere changes and when a new form of order and control is decreed, it will be necessary for biological changes of the human being to insure survival.

This is why there has been so much corporate emphasis on genetic modification for the future.

i'm glad my future is not full of doom and gloom. it would really suck to know whats going to happen, then, not be smart enough to do anything about it.

Originally posted by kenshiro2012
As for where in the bible it is decreed that man should live for 120 years, it can be found near the begining of the Old Testament. In Genesis 6:3

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

The actual decline though of mankind's lifespan is recorded in the bible not to have started until after the Flood. God decried this to be so when Noah had reached the age of 500. For a good timeline of this (unless you wish to read Genesis 11:10-32 would be God's Limit on Man's Years

Monkey wrench: en.wikipedia.org... Jeanne Calment lived to be 122. 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997

edit: But I am in the 2012 camp. And the St. Malachi prediction coincidence is spooky.

[edit on 7/4/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by kenshiro2012
As for where in the bible it is decreed that man should live for 120 years, it can be found near the begining of the Old Testament. In Genesis 6:3

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

The actual decline though of mankind's lifespan is recorded in the bible not to have started until after the Flood. God decried this to be so when Noah had reached the age of 500. For a good timeline of this (unless you wish to read Genesis 11:10-32 would be God's Limit on Man's Years

Monkey wrench: en.wikipedia.org... Jeanne Calment lived to be 122. 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997

edit: But I am in the 2012 camp. And the St. Malachi prediction coincidence is spooky.

[edit on 7/4/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

God must be pissed.
Also could someone post St Malachis prediction of the sucession of popes? I've never seen it and I'm quite interested.

[edit on 4-7-2010 by hippomchippo]

The Prophecies
Pope No. Name (Reign) Motto No. Motto (and explanation)
167 Celestine II (1143-1144) 1 Ex castro Tyberis
(from a castle on the Tiber)
Hist.: Celestin II was born in Citta di Castello, Toscany, on the shores of the Tiber
168 Lucius II (1144-1145) 2 Inimicus expulsus
169 Eugene III (1145-1153) 3 Ex magnitudine montis
(Of the greatness of the mount)
Hist.: Born in the castle of Grammont (latin: mons magnus), his family name was Montemagno
170 Anastasius IV (1153-1154) 4 Abbas Suburranus
171 Adrian IV (1154-1159) 5 De rure albo
(field of Albe)
Hist.: Born in the town of Saint-Alban
Antipope Victor IV (1159-1164) 6 Ex tetro carcere
Antipope Paschal III (1164-1168) 7 Via trans-Tyberina
Antipope Calistus III (1168-1178) 8 De Pannonia Tusciæ
172 Alexander III (1159-1181) 9 Ex ansere custode
173 Lucius III (1181-1185) 10 Lux in ostio
174 Urban III (1185-1187) 11 Sus in cribo
175 Gregory VIII (1187) 12 Ensis Laurentii
176 Clement III (1187-1191) 13 De schola exiet
177 Celestine III (1191-1198) 14 De rure bovensi
178 Innocent III (1198-1216) 15 Comes signatus
(signed Count)
Hist.: descendant of the noble Signy, later called Segni family
179 Honorius III (1216-1227) 16 Canonicus de latere
180 Gregory IX (1227-1241) 17 Avis Ostiensis
(Bird of Ostia)
Hist.: before his election he was Cardinal of Ostia
181 Celestine IV (1241) 18 Leo Sabinus
182 Innocent IV (1243-1254) 19 Comes Laurentius
183 Alexander IV (1254-1261) 20 Signum Ostiense
184 Urban IV (1261-1264) 21 Hierusalem Campaniæ
(Jerusalem of Champagne)
Hist.: native of Troyes, Champagne, later patriarch of Jerusalem
185 Clement IV (1265-1268) 22 Draca depressus
186 Gregory X (1271-1276) 23 Anguinus vir
187 Innocent V (1276) 24 Concionatur Gallus
188 Adrian V (1276) 25 Bonus Comes
189 John XXI (1276-1277) 26 Piscator Tuscus
190 Nicholas III (1277-1280) 27 Rosa composita
191 Martin IV (1281-1285) 28 Ex teloneo liliacei Martini
192 Honorius IV (1285-1287) 29 Ex rosa leonina
193 Nicholas IV (1288-1292) 30 Picus inter escas
194 Nicholas IV (1288-1292) 31 Ex eremo celsus
(elevated from a hermit)
Hist.: prior to his election he was a hermit in the monastery of Pouilles
195 Boniface VIII (1294-1303) 32 Ex undarum benedictione
196 Benedict XI (1303-1304) 33 Concionator patereus
197 Clement V (1305-1314) 34 De fessis Aquitanicis
(ribbon of Aquitaine)
Hist.: was archbishop of Bordeaux in Aquitaine
198 John XXII (1316-1334) 35 De sutore osseo
(of the cobbler of Osseo)
Hist.: Family name Ossa, son of a shoe-maker
Antipope Nicholas V (1328-1330) 36 Corvus schismaticus
(the schismatic crow)
Note the reference to the schism, the only antipope at this period
199 Benedict XII (1334-1342) 37 Frigidus Abbas
(cold friar)
Hist.: he was a priest in the monastery of Frontfroid (coldfront)

continued...

200 Clement VI (1342-1352) 38 De rosa Attrebatensi
201 Innocent VI (1352-1362) 39 De montibus Pammachii
202 Urban V (1362-1370) 40 Gallus Vice-comes
203 Gregory XI (1370-1378) 41 Novus de Virgine forti
(novel of the virgin fort)
Hist.: count of Beaufort, later Cardinal of Ste-Marie La Neuve
Antipope Clement VII (1378-1394) 42 De cruce Apostilica
Antipope Benedict XIII (1394-1423) 43 Luna Cosmedina
Antipope Clement VIII (1423-1429) 44 Schisma Barcinonicum
204 Urban VI (1378-1389) 45 De Inferno pregnani(From the hell of Pregnani)
Hist.: He was a town called Inferno in the region of Pregnani.
205 Boniface IX (1389-1404) 46 Cubus de mixtione
206 Innocent VII (1404-1406) 47 De meliore sydere
207 Gregory XII (1406-1415) 48 Nauta de ponte nigro
Antipope Alexander V (1409-1410) 49 Flagellum Solis
Antipope John XXIII (1410-1415) 50 Cervus Sirenæ
208 Martin V (1417-1431) 51 Corona veli aurei
209 Eugene IV (1431-1447) 52 Lupa cælestina
Antipope Felix V (1439-1449) 53 Amator crucis
210 Nicholas V (1447-1455) 54 De modicitate lunæ
211 Callistus III (1455-1458) 55 Bos pascens
(grazing ox)
Hist.: Alphonse Borgia's arms sported a golden grazing ox
212 Pius II (1458-1464) 56 De capra et Albergo
213 Paul II (1464-1471) 57 De cervo et Leone
214 Sixtus IV (1471-1484) 58 Piscator Minorita
215 Innocent VIII (1484-1492) 59 Præcursor Siciliæ
216 Alexander VI (1492-1503) 60 Bos Albanus in portu
217 Pius III (1503) 61 De parvo homine
218 Julius II (1503-1513) 62 Fructus jovis juvabit
219 Leo X (1513-1521) 63 De craticula Politiana
220 Adrian VI (1522-1523) 64 Leo Florentius
221 Clement VII (1523-1534) 65 Flos pilæi ægri
222 Paul III (1534-1549) 66 Hiacynthus medicorum
223 Julius III (1550-1555) 67 De corona Montana
224 Marcellus II (1555) 68 Frumentum floccidum
225 Paul IV (1555-1559) 69 De fide Petri
226 Pius IV (1559-1565) 70 Æsculapii pharmacum
227 St. Pius V (1566-1572) 71 Angelus nemorosus
228 Gregory XIII (1572-1585) 72 Medium corpus pilarum
229 Sixtus V (1585-1590) 73 Axis in medietate signi
230 Urban VII (1590) 74 De rore cæli
231 Gregory XIV (1590-1591) 75 De antiquitate Urbis
232 Innocent IX (1591) 76 Pia civitas in bello
233 Clement VIII (1592-1605) 77 Crux Romulea
234 Leo XI (1605) 78 Undosus Vir
235 Paul V (1605-1621) 79 Gens perversa
236 Gregory XV (1621-1623) 80 In tribulatione pacis
237 Urban VIII (1623-1644) 81 Lilium et rosa
238 Innocent X (1644-1655) 82 Jucunditas crucis
239 Alexander VII (1655-1667) 83 Montium custos
240 Clement IX (1667-1669) 84 Sydus Olorum
(constellation of swans)
Hist.: upon his election, he was apparently the occupant of the Chamber of Swans in the Vatican.
241 Clement X (1670-1676) 85 De flumine magno
242 Innocent XI (1676-1689) 86 Bellua insatiabilis
243 Alexander VIII (1689-1691) 87 Pœnitentia gloriosa
244 Innocent XII (1691-1700) 88 Rastrum in porta
245 Clement XI (1700-1721) 89 Flores circumdati
246 Innocent XIII (1721-1724) 90 De bona Religione
247 Benedict XIII (1724-1730) 91 Miles in bello
248 Clement XII (1730-1740) 92 Columna excelsa
249 Benedict XIV (1740-1758) 93 Animal rurale
250 Clement XIII (1758-1769) 94 Rosa Umbriæ
251 Clement XIV (1769-1774) 95 Ursus velox
252 Pius VI (1775-1799) 96 Peregrinus Apostolicus
253 Pius VII (1800-1823) 97 Aquila rapax
254 Leo XII (1823-1829) 98 Canis et coluber
255 Pius VIII (1829-1830) 99 Vir religiosus
256 Gregory XVI (1831-1846) 100 De balneis hetruriæ
(bath of Etruria)
Hist.: prior to his election he was member of an order founded by Saint Romuald, at Balneo, in Etruria, present day Toscany.
257 Pius IX (1846-1878) 101 Crux de cruce
(Cross of Crosses)
Hist.ius XI was the last Pope to reign over the Papal States (the middle third of what is today Italy). He ended up being a prisoner of the Vatican, never venturing outside Vatican City. A much heavier burden than his predecessors.
258 Leo XIII (1878-1903) 102 Lumen in cælo(Light in the Heavens)
Hist.: Leo XIII wrote encyclicals on Catholic social teaching that were still being digested 100 years later. He added considerably to theology.
259 St. Pius X (1903-1914) 103 Ignis ardens
(ardent fire)
Hist.: The Pope had great personal piety and achieved a number of important reforms in the devotional and liturgical life of priests and laypeople.
260 Benedict XV (1914-1922) 104 Religio depopulata
(Religion laid waste)
Hist.: This Pope reigned during the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia which store the establishment of Communism.
261 Pius XI (1922-1939) 105 Fides intrepida
(Intrepid faith)
Hist.: This Pope stood up to Fascist and Communist forces lining up against him in the lead up to World War II.
262 Pius XII (1939-1958) 106 Pastor angelicus
(Angelic Shepherd)
Hist.: This Pope was very mystical, and is believed to have received visions. People would kneel when they received telephone calls from him. His encyclicals add enormously to the understanding of Catholic beliefs (even if they are now overlooked because of focus on the Second Vatican Council, which occurred so soon after his reign).
263 John XXIII (1958-1963) 107 Pastor et Nauta
(pastor and marine)
Hist.: prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, a marine city, home of the gondolas
264 Paul VI (1963-1978) 108 Flos florum
(flower of flowers)
Hist.: his arms displayed three lilies.
265 John Paul I (1978) 109 De medietate Lunæ
(of the half of the moon)
Hist.: Albino Luciani, born in Canale d'Agardo, diocese of Belluno, (beautiful moon) Elected pope on August 26, his reign lasted about a month, from half a moon to the next half...
266 John Paul II (1978-2005) 110 De labore Solis
(of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
Hist.: Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain (the East, where the Sun rises). He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary). His Funeral occurred on 8 April, 2005 when there was a solar eclipse visible in the Americas.
267 Benedict XVI (2005-) 111 Gloria olivæ
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order, since a branch of the Benedictine order is called the Olivetans. St Benedict is said to have prophesied that before the end of the world, a member of his order would be Pope and would triumphantly lead the Church in its fight against evil. While the Holy Father chose the name "Benedict", this does not seem enough to fulfil the prophecy. Nor is it clear how Benedict XVI (a Bavarian) is "Glory of the Olives". Since he is said to have remarked in the Conclave after saying he would take the name Benedict that it was partly to honour Benedict XV, a pope of peace and reconciliation, perhaps Benedict XVI will be a peacemaker in the Church or in the World, and thus carry the olive branch.


Last Pope:In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis.

(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.) -www.catholic-pages.com...


Also see: en.wikipedia.org...



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Every time I think of St. Malachi's prophesy and 2012 I feel that the "Change" we endure will be the end of all Religion.

We will have war as a result but religion will be abolished.

reply to post by Dmac84


true in the sense that we will have a king on the earth for a thousand years and then the great home we want so much will appear for eternity! according to scripture....i read it!