My Congratulations To The Republican Party

I believe they have carried out one of the greatest propaganda coups in history.

They have made it appear that the Democrats are baby eating gay satanists who sole purpose in life is to force your pre-school children into homosexual marriages, when if fact the two parties are only SLIGHTLY different.

They have managed to have every TV station and Newspaper screaming about how the LIBERALS are controlling them when if that was true do you think they would be claiming it?

They have managed to convince a little over half of the USA that the rest of us whither we are Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, or whatever are enemies of the country. Now they are claiming that Republicans that don't "Toe the line" are too. When has it been Un-American to disagree with the Government?

This could not have happened without cooperation from the Democrats and control of the Media. I have seen members of this Board claim that any American that did not believe the Republican party's stand was a terrorist.

The crap spouted by the Democrats is just as bad if not worse. Can any of you tell me a REAL DIFFERENCE between the two parties? Not just in their slogans and sound bites, but in their actions?

People we are being played here. I think this could be one of the biggest American Political Conspiracies in History.

This parallels the Propaganda Machines of the Nazis, or the NK, or Stalin or Mao.

I have to hand it to them....I am impressed

We've talked before. Next time I'm back in the Razorback state, can I stop by for some of the same moonshine you're having?

Seriously, you asked for a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans? Try this on for size, what the Democrats advocate is dangerous for the U.S. (I mean dangerous for the citizens of the U.S.) and what Republicans advocate is dangerous for the rest of the world. Now that might sound scary at first, until you actually compare what's going on here to what's going on in the rest of the world.

That why, given only those two choices, I'll take my chances with the right.

yea,
Homosexuals getting married will be the down fall of the country.
Every Citizen in our country having health care would also be bad.
Worry about what everyone else is doing is great for our country.
Fabricating lies to invade other nations so American companies can rebuild and profit is the way of the future.
Catering to corporations is not fascism it's being a good American
Using Homeland Security to protect the intellectual rights of big business is also the American way let those violators rot in jail. Actually this is a good thing with no free entertainment maybe people will wake up, instead of distracted.
Giving Americans huge amounts of credit and not letting them declare bankruptcy is not only common sense but a good life lesson.

Making everyone in the country think they can be rich also if they just follow the laws and work hard isn't fiction it's the American Dream.

Give me a freakin break this country is so corrupt now it's scary.
The old saying is true democrats steal and leave a little for the regular working class man
Republicans just steal and leave nothing.
It’s time for a change.

I agree it is time for a change, the republicans have manipulated the general public with lies and half truths and the use of patriotism. If you disagree or say anything against what they are doing you are labeled as unpatriotic or a liberal or here is the topper of them all you hate Bush. This last one irks me to no end, thats all the reason they think they need to dismiss your opinion. Tthey simply say your opinion is not valid because instead of being based on anything real like his lies to lead us into war, his policy of stealing from the poor to give to the rich, his policy of cutting veteran benefits while sending the military off to war on false pretenses, no its just because you hate Bush.

If we don't get the no ballot machines out and get a fair voting system in we will have another election stolen. In 2000 there were 93000 mostly democrat registered voters cheated out of their vote in Florida (Bush won that state by less than 600 votes you do the math). These voters were put on a list of felons and not allowed to vote simply because they had similar names in some instances the person not allowed to vote (though they were not felons) were not even the same sex as the real felon, one of the people denied their vote was listed as committing their felony in 2007. Something needs to be done to make sure everyone who has a right to vote is not denied that right and also have a clear paper ballot in case there is any question and a recount has to be done.

Originally posted by Amuk

This parallels the Propaganda Machines of the Nazis, or the NK, or Stalin or Mao.

I have to hand it to them....I am impressed

Im not so sure there are two parties anymore Amuk. I am beginning to wonder if my Democrats (who lost their spine somewhere along the way) are just there to take the fall. This all seems so orchastrated to me. I think Im starting to see Thomas Crowns opinions clearer every day.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Seriously, you asked for a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans? Try this on for size, what the Democrats advocate is dangerous for the U.S. (I mean dangerous for the citizens of the U.S.) and what Republicans advocate is dangerous for the rest of the world.

Point out the differences. What are the Republicans doing that the Democrats wouldnt be doing? Dont give me the party line....what are the DOING?

We have talked before and you have as of yet not shown me ONE major difference between the two.

Maybe you can bring some of YOUR shine next time your arround mines not that strong.....LOL

Originally posted by Kidfinger

Originally posted by Amuk

This parallels the Propaganda Machines of the Nazis, or the NK, or Stalin or Mao.

I have to hand it to them....I am impressed

Im not so sure there are two parties anymore Amuk. I am beginning to wonder if my Democrats (who lost their spine somewhere along the way) are just there to take the fall. This all seems so orchastrated to me. I think Im starting to see Thomas Crowns opinions clearer every day.

Thank GOD for another one. Once you step back it is clear. This whole Republican/Democrat thing is just a huge dog and pony show.

There AINT two parties any more. It IS ORCHASTRATED. Me and TC disagree about a lot but on this we are in agreement. I am sending him a U@U to join us on this debate.

[edit on 27-5-2005 by Amuk]

Republicans seem to want to export the U.S. version of democracy to other parts of the world - you need examples of this?. Democrats seem to want to replace our current system with an "anything goes" mentality and morality. The logical progression of that is towards anarchy. For examples of of this, turn on the news.

[/sees massive parallels to what happened to the Roman Empire here-didn't like it then and don't like it now]

Also, maybe the party differences are blurring, but the underlying philosophical differences are still as different as night and day.

[edit on 5/27/2005 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by Amuk
I am sending him a U@U to join us on this debate.

[edit on 27-5-2005 by Amuk]

Man, when he finds out Im on his side, I think TC might have a heart attack!

You are right, Amuk. And dont forget to give credit to the satanist talking heads on the radio

How does it go? Those who bring you broadcast excellence?

Originally posted by centurion1211



Also, maybe the party differences are blurring, but the underlying philosophical differences are still as different as night and day.

Philisophical differances mean nothing in this situation. Look at the actions of both parties. I still call myself a Liberal, and I willo defend my Liberal beliefs, BUT that is where I draw the line now. Both parties are setting the US up for a massive fall. In eight years from now, we will begin to see the results of all this. Depending on which fictional party gets in office, here is how I see it going down.

If The right gets in office, WW3. Period. The current public adgenda will still be carried out.

If the Left get the office, I see massive economic failure and collaps of the government due to incompitence. The path is set. I have a feeling we are at a crossroads and these are our only two paths.

Originally posted by dgtempe
You are right, Amuk. And dont forget to give credit to the satanist talking heads on the radio

How does it go? Those who bring you broadcast excellence?

Regarding your Abraham Lincoln quote, there are many who believe that political correctness (PC) is destroying our personal freedoms faster than anything else by creating a kind of 'thought police state'.

Originally posted by Kidfinger

If The right gets in office, WW3. Period. The current public adgenda will still be carried out.

If the Left get the office, I see massive economic failure and collaps of the government due to incompitence. The path is set. I have a feeling we are at a crossroads and these are our only two paths.

Hmmm. Might have to agree with you (for the 1st time!) on your prognosis. Ever since I was a kid, I've felt that I was part of the 2nd to the last generation, which would mean my kids are the last. Maybe the old clock is actually winding down.

If you're right, then to me the only choice is to go out either fighting (for what you believe in) or whimpering in fear.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Republicans seem to want to export the U.S. version of democracy to other parts of the world - you need examples of this?. Democrats seem to want to replace our current system with an "anything goes" mentality and morality.

So the Republicans intend to force our form of government on every country that is too weak to defend itself through a never-ending series of wars that will be paid for by our taxes and equipped by companies owned by, surprisingly enough, them. But you seem to forget that most Democrats just pay lip service to stopping them, no doubt because they own a lot of shares in the same companies. So where is the difference here?

And now for the TRIATORS TO THE VERY WAY OF AMERICAN LIFE also known as the Democrats. They want to let Gays Marry and are for Abortion which I guess is what you are talking about. Most Republicans are for civil unions for gays and abortions under some circumstances. The difference is slight, usually just the terms they wish to use. So where is the difference here?

The logical progression of that is towards anarchy. For examples of of this, turn on the news.

I watch the news every day and dont see ANY anarchy could you point out some for me?

[/sees massive parallels to what happened to the Roman Empire here-didn't like it then and don't like it now]

You watched the Roman Empire fall?

Also, maybe the party differences are blurring, but the underlying philosophical differences are still as different as night and day.

The so called "philosophical differences" are just the smoke screen they use to lure in the guilible on BOTH SIDES.

I havent seen the Republicans shrink the government, lower taxes (other than a token cut), get government off our backs, etc have you?

I havent seen the Democrats create a program that helped people up, most of the ones that have DELIBERETLY keep people down, nor have I seen them do ANYTHING to promote personal rights.....have you?

Democracy has become a tool of the oligarchs to serenade thier game of sophistry upon the manipulated masses. It's irrational to believe that democracy is fail safe; do remember, democracy allowed the likes of Hitler into power, and, as it were, his tactics to gain power were very similiar to that of President Bush. Truely, I believe that much of what has transpired was well scripted long before even my birth; these are incidents beclouded in deciet and ruthless greed. What has transpired after 9/11 has been acts of manipulation of the peoples to provide more executive and impunitive powers to American leaders, and it's become quite apparent that only the worst is to come lest a conscious revolution, or a paradigm shift of sort, were to occur, but the possibility of that is very unlikey lest the leaders make a very deliterious move on thier part; for the masses to be informed of the deciet which has befallen them, they must be informed in such a way which is receptive of thier level of understanding, and it must be deployed through respected sources, however, as is quite evident, such sources have become accountable to these tryants; the peoples are fed nothing but propaganda with very little truths.

Republicans seem to want to export the U.S. version of democracy to other parts of the world - you need examples of this?. Democrats seem to want to replace our current system with an "anything goes" mentality and morality. The logical progression of that is towards anarchy. For examples of of this, turn on the news.

Demoracts are pragmatists you say? You're not making any sense here at all assuming that anarchy is to come through more socialist endevours, as is evident in the socio-cultural atmosphere of the worlds socialist countries; ie, Sweden, Canada, Germany, Norway, etc etc etc. You're basing your logic in bias, and not facts. The republicans have the worst track record of any world leader, they have done nothing positive for thier peoples, bar the people of the world; spoon feeding children with lies of terrorism, communism, and economic dispair --which they seem to bring themselves-- to candy coat thier own dangerous dilema is the scheme of these men, not democracy.


Deep

Great analogy we truly have become the Roman Empire but it’s not the Democrats causing this! All branches of Government are run and have been run for sometime now by one party The Republicans! So lets stop blaming Democrats for things the Republicans clearly have and have had control over!

The Democrats are guilty of letting our country fall into the mess it has solely to regain power and retain it for years to come. Which in itself is treason!

We need a new party on for the people! On that doesn’t cater to the rich or the scum in our society who can but choose not to work. We can’t have 50% of us taking care of the other 50%! Or 1% of the society screwing the other 99% of it.

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Kidfinger

If The right gets in office, WW3. Period. The current public adgenda will still be carried out.

If the Left get the office, I see massive economic failure and collaps of the government due to incompitence. The path is set. I have a feeling we are at a crossroads and these are our only two paths.

Hmmm. Might have to agree with you (for the 1st time!) on your prognosis.

See, us peace lovin hippies arn't all that bad now are we.

If you're right, then to me the only choice is to go out either fighting (for what you believe in) or whimpering in fear.

Well, Im not sure about fighting for what you believe in. I dont accept that we have to be controlled and mandated like a herd of cattle. I believe in personal rights for all. I dont think that would be what we will be fighting for.

I wont go out whimpering in fear. I'll probably be the next 'rebel scum'

And speaking of Starwars, I just have to put this out there. Padme's line was awsome!

"So this is how Liberty dies...............With thunderess applause."

Seems fitting.



[edit on 5/27/05 by Kidfinger]

Im not sure about the anything other then republicans, is Anti-American thing

I personaly dont agree with liberals on most things some things i do but for the most part i donot, i dont feel "all" liberals are Anti-American or anyone who speaks out against what they believe the government is doing wrong, however there is a line that some cross, when they go from standing up against what they think the government is doing wrong, and start saying things such as

America are nazis!
America are the worlds worst terrorists!
America is so evil!
I hope those terrorists kill american soldiers!


Stuff such as that which HAS been said on this forum and others IS Anti-American

As much as i dissagree with liberals, America does need them for balance, as do we need libertarians, and republicans, and whoever else, without 1 things would be more screwy then any of us could handle,

Again its one thing to dissagree with something your government is doing, but once you start cheerleading for the enemy or comparing this country to nazi's, youve crossed the line.


[edit on 27-5-2005 by C0le]

Originally posted by Amuk
I believe they have carried out one of the greatest propaganda coups in history.

They have made it appear that the Democrats are baby eating gay satanists who sole purpose in life is to force your pre-school children into homosexual marriages, when if fact the two parties are only SLIGHTLY different.

They have managed to have every TV station and Newspaper screaming about how the LIBERALS are controlling them when if that was true do you think they would be claiming it?

They have managed to convince a little over half of the USA that the rest of us whither we are Democrat, Independent, Libertarian

, or whatever are enemies of the country. Now they are claiming that Republicans that don't "Toe the line" are too. When has it been Un-American to disagree with the Government?

This could not have happened without cooperation from the Democrats and control of the Media. I have seen members of this Board claim that any American that did not believe the Republican party's stand was a terrorist.

The crap spouted by the Democrats is just as bad if not worse. Can any of you tell me a REAL DIFFERENCE between the two parties? Not just in their slogans and sound bites, but in their actions?

People we are being played here. I think this could be one of the biggest American Political Conspiracies in History.

This parallels the Propaganda Machines of the Nazis, or the NK, or Stalin or Mao.

I have to hand it to them....I am impressed

You mean thats not what the democrats are trying to do?

Originally posted by Amuk
[So the Republicans intend to force our form of government on every country that is too weak to defend itself through a never-ending series of wars that will be paid for by our taxes and equipped by companies owned by, surprisingly enough, them. But you seem to forget that most Democrats just pay lip service to stopping them, no doubt because they own a lot of shares in the same companies. So where is the difference here?

I watch the news every day and dont see ANY anarchy could you point out some for me?

You watched the Roman Empire fall?

Better to export our way of life there then to let them export theirs here, IMO.

Anarchy resulting from police and courts no longer willing to enforce the laws we have on the books - easier to feel sorry for the criminals than the victims.

And yes, pictures of Rome today do the same thing to me that pictures of the fallen WTC probably do to you.